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Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • #3992
    stretch film
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭stretch film


    I will make an attempt to dissolve the milking machine with descaler tomorrow and take my chances after that . The water here is high in iron and builds up after a while . Hate opening plate coolers etc usually a wild goose chase


  • #3993
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    stretch film wrote: »
    Not the first time they've been implicated iirc. Whats your pre milking routine.
    A pre spray of Peracetic acid would help if poss.

    Draw (dry) and cups on is the routine.
    What strength solution of peracetic acid?


  • #3994
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Tails clipped, I presume

    Ah yes clipped.
    I was going to buy a shearbucket/grab/bale opener from Prodig but for the fact that mouldy bales would make their way into the diet feeder, I stayed away from it.
    Guaranteed next month will be fine as the problem was the egit filling the feeder.
    Only one test per month and no second chance...


  • #3995
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Ah yes clipped.
    I was going to buy a shearbucket/grab/bale opener from Prodig but for the fact that mouldy bales would make their way into the diet feeder, I stayed away from it.
    Guaranteed next month will be fine as the problem was the egit filling the feeder.
    Only one test per month and no second chance...
    That's exactly my fear too with buying a bale shear. Could put a mouldy bale through duet feeder and not know.


  • #3996
    stretch film
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    Dawggone wrote: »
    Draw (dry) and cups on is the routine.
    What strength solution of peracetic acid?

    Have droppers in pit so use the cluster rinse concentration of 0.2%..
    Will do it in anticipation of a retest but dont as standard . Would have no fear on teats with the rapid evaporation just dont do every cow due to time . Pre spray high scc daily and they're no issues.


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  • #3997
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    On the thermo we washed out vacuum line in out farm and that sorted it there. Did same on home place, no such luck.

    I often found Thermo spike if cows go into after grass and get very loose. Would make a point of clipping tails at that stage to avoid.

    Hoof care guys come in at milking and clip all rails and freeze brands in race as cows are milked, great service


  • #3998
    visatorro
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    frazzledhome wrote: »
    On the thermo we washed out vacuum line in out farm and that sorted it there. Did same on home place, no such luck.

    I often found Thermo spike if cows go into after grass and get very loose. Would make a point of clipping tails at that stage to avoid.

    Hoof care guys come in at milking and clip all rails and freeze brands in race as cows are milked, great service

    the same guys that dehorn the calves? if so they really are good lads


  • #3999
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    visatorro wrote: »
    the same guys that dehorn the calves? if so they really are good lads

    That's them. Scan cows also. Do they do work for you?


  • #4000
    visatorro
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    too far away from me id say. sounds like a great service. do you pair the entire herd or just pick the lame ones out? know a fella that does the whole herd, reckons its money spent

    sorry for going off topic, should be in dairy general


  • #4001
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Dawggone wrote:
    I know the cause here. With a bonus for aug/sept milk I opened the taps a bit and fed Lucerne and crimson clover wraps. Both are notoriously hard to ensile...


    Speaking of which it's about that time of year when I ask those who understand these things whether we'll ever be able to grow alfalfa here.

    Although what that has to do with milk prices I don't know.


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  • #4002
    whelan2
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    stretch film wrote: »
    Had you that a second thermo done on request or was it routine. Might be due a result on second later here as only one done so far.
    the glanbia month is finished today, also thermo's normally only done monday, tuesday and thursday, takes about 3-4 days for result.


  • #4003
    trixi2011
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    frazzledhome wrote: »
    On the thermo we washed out vacuum line in out farm and that sorted it there. Did same on home place, no such luck.

    I often found Thermo spike if cows go into after grass and get very loose. Would make a point of clipping tails at that stage to avoid.

    Hoof care guys come in at milking and clip all rails and freeze brands in race as cows are milked, great service
    Used to get the same done over here but dropped it during the cost cutting measures. all done with a scissors or hand sheep shears now:(.


  • #4004
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    stretch film wrote: »
    Have droppers in pit so use the cluster rinse concentration of 0.2%..
    Will do it in anticipation of a retest but dont as standard . Would have no fear on teats with the rapid evaporation just dont do every cow due to time . Pre spray high scc daily and they're no issues.

    Whats the thinking behind pre spraying high cell cows?


  • #4005
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    trixi2011 wrote: »
    Used to get the same done over here but dropped it during the cost cutting measures. all done with a scissors or hand sheep shears now:(.

    I always enjoy your posts Trixi, but that post is particularly chilling...


  • #4006
    Dawggone
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    kowtow wrote: »
    Speaking of which it's about that time of year when I ask those who understand these things whether we'll ever be able to grow alfalfa here.

    Although what that has to do with milk prices I don't know.

    With the extra area aid it may be feasible on the deeper, richer, drier soils...
    I just didn't have the reserves of water to do it justice this year.


  • #4007
    whelan2
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    Dawggone wrote: »
    I always enjoy your posts Trixi, but that post is particularly chilling...
    I do mine with scissors, do a few each milking, 5 pairs of scissors for 2.99 in aldi:) also handy for cutting pulse tubes etc in parlour


  • #4008
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Whats the thinking behind pre spraying high cell cows?
    stop the spread from cluster to next cow


  • #4009
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I do mine with scissors, do a few each milking, 5 pairs of scissors for 2.99 in aldi:) also handy for cutting pulse tubes etc in parlour
    When a cow calves i clip the tails, easier in the morning to tell the jexs apart! Clip again in june/july


  • #4010
    jaymla627
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    kevthegaff wrote: »
    When a cow calves i clip the tails, easier in the morning to tell the jexs apart! Clip again in june/july

    Do the same here, clip their tails when they're able to go into the tank, does be handy too if the springer's decide to break into the milkers for sorting purposes:rolleyes:


  • #4011
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,817 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Cut the heifers tails when they behave at milking, that way you are fore warned if she's a bitch


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  • #4012
    Greengrass1
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    I prefer to have all tails clipped before calving starts. Cows are cleaner and look better


  • #4013
    alps
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    I prefer to have all tails clipped before calving starts. Cows are cleaner and look better

    Nothing worse than a slap in the face from the dirty tail of a fresh calved cow...


  • #4014
    kowtow
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    Dawggone wrote:
    The all devouring mercantile pyramid has to be finite as the planet has finite resources?

    That's one of the great mysteries.

    The other is whether the ouput of an uillean piper has economic value.


  • #4015
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,817 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    alps wrote: »
    Nothing worse than a slap in the face from the dirty tail of a fresh calved cow...
    think i posted this on here before, I was on a farm walk a few years ago and the cows tails were tipping the ground, crap on their hocks and udders, 1 minute would cut them, pure laziness


  • #4016
    patsy_mccabe
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    think i posted this on here before, I was on a farm walk a few years ago and the cows tails were tipping the ground, crap on their hocks and udders, 1 minute would cut them, pure laziness

    I cut the tails here on everything (sucklers here) at the start of winter. I find it helps keep them a lot cleaner. Just straight across about 1/2" under the end of the tail bone.


  • #4017
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    kowtow wrote: »

    The other is whether the ouput of an uillean piper has economic value.

    Lol.
    Stand him in front of a big lump of Haggis and charge the yanks plenty.


  • #4018
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    http://www.interest.co.nz/rural-news/77354/global-dairy-prices-likely-continue-reclaiming-ground-weeks-auction-anz-economists

    http://m.theaustralian.com.au/business/economics/new-zealand-cash-cow-runs-dry-as-chinese-lose-thirst-for-milk/story-e6frg926-1227506370597?nk=243d458245a8f79becef57a5754ed478-1441001831


  • #4019
    darragh_haven
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    frazzledhome wrote: »
    http://www.interest.co.nz/rural-news/77354/global-dairy-prices-likely-continue-reclaiming-ground-weeks-auction-anz-economists

    http://m.theaustralian.com.au/business/economics/new-zealand-cash-cow-runs-dry-as-chinese-lose-thirst-for-milk/story-e6frg926-1227506370597?nk=243d458245a8f79becef57a5754ed478-1441001831

    Milk price in for a bit of a dead cat bounce. Even tho the cat isn't dead, and will eventually climb again


  • #4020
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    darragh_haven wrote: »
    Milk price in for a bit of a dead cat bounce. Even tho the cat isn't dead

    A term I saw first in the real recession, I suppose it means even a dead cat will bounce, but it has to hit the bottom pretty hard as well


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  • #4021
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    rangler1 wrote: »
    A term I saw first in the real recession, I suppose it means even a dead cat will bounce, but it has to hit the bottom pretty hard as well

    ........and fall from a great height


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