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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • #602
    Greengrass1
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    3 the square wrote: »
    LOOKS GOOD WHAT GRASSS SEED MIX IN IT??

    It's a monoculture.
    Just clanrye in it.


  • #603
    Greengrass1
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    Deepsouthwest wrote: »
    Is it time and dare I say economical to up meal by a kg or so now that it's nearly sept 1st? Have been on 1kg/cow all yr long, and stocked around around 3.3 on mp. Plenty grass at the moment and building, but a lot of rain in the last 48 hrs so DM/gut fill probably lacking a little. This is traditionally the time when yield drop accelerates, would a kg or two hold it?
    We were on a kg too since june I think.
    Gave them 2 yesterday. Milk seems to be up a bit this morning


  • #604
    mahoney_j
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    Deepsouthwest wrote: »
    Is it time and dare I say economical to up meal by a kg or so now that it's nearly sept 1st? Have been on 1kg/cow all yr long, and stocked around around 3.3 on mp. Plenty grass at the moment and building, but a lot of rain in the last 48 hrs so DM/gut fill probably lacking a little. This is traditionally the time when yield drop accelerates, would a kg or two hold it?

    Moved up to 18% nut last friday ,feeding rate 3.2 kg average .solids tipping 1.96 kg solids per cow 24.6 Ltrs .id be moving in with feed if 'twas me especially with wet weather and equally wet grass


  • #605
    Timmaay
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    cows on 1kg here last while, bump it back up to 2kg last night and last week for a day or so during wet weather, yields very consistent


  • #606
    Brown Podzol
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    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Moved up to 18% nut last friday ,feeding rate 3.2 kg average .solids tipping 1.96 kg solids per cow 24.6 Ltrs .id be moving in with feed if 'twas me especially with wet weather and equally wet grass

    Why the 18%?. Is grass protein not high enough. I've stayed at 14 as I'd always be keeping an eye on body condition.


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  • #607
    White Clover
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    Brown Podzol wrote: »
    Why the 18%?. Is grass protein not high enough. I've stayed at 14 as I'd always be keeping an eye on body condition.

    Good points. Plenty protein in grass this time of year. Not sure there be much else from here on. Hi energy nut to balance


  • #608
    keep going
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    How much of your annual agreed volume have you filled, im a little behind at 57 %at end of july but seeing as I was trying to almost double and given the weather its not too bad should do 90 %


  • #609
    frazzledhome
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    Deepsouthwest wrote: »
    Is it time and dare I say economical to up meal by a kg or so now that it's nearly sept 1st? Have been on 1kg/cow all yr long, and stocked around around 3.3 on mp. Plenty grass at the moment and building, but a lot of rain in the last 48 hrs so DM/gut fill probably lacking a little. This is traditionally the time when yield drop accelerates, would a kg or two hold it?

    First thing I'd be establishing is cover per cow
    We're on 2 kg here to build covers. Grass explosion here ATM will decide on meal after cover figures are inputted later today.

    Heading to Kinsale in an hour or so for a bit of r&r till Sat. Last chance as kids off to school Monday. Rugby started last night so deffo time to build covers.

    Order fert for Sept once I see what allowances I have P&K wise. Get that spread and then tear into building a feed passage on out farm to buffer cows


  • #610
    mahoney_j
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    White Clover wrote: »
    Good points. Plenty protein in grass this time of year. Not sure there be much else from here on. Hi energy nut to balance

    Nothing to do with p in grass ,I've well over 30%!heifers and it's more to keep them motoring than anything .nut is high in energy 0.97 ufl with quality ingridents like maize ,beet pulp barley and soya main ingridents .285 a tonne in bin .cows and heifers in excellent Nick today's collection up nearly a Ltr per cow on average to 25.4 so the response is there ,small maby but from now till dry off it'll cost 200/240 euros in total extra so not going to break the bank


  • #611
    Milked out
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    Had dropped meal here as will be drying off 30 this week and 40 acres silage ground back in but 10 of this will be needed for calves. Will be bringing back in 2 kgs + as weather is hitting spring herd despite excellent quality grass and they should respond, also will have to build a bit for autumn calvers. Scanned today will have 36 in autumn, 16 last 10 days jan, 46 feb, 21 march and the remainder in late april or may but must scan them again. May be a couple of heifers in march as have not scanned them yet. Very few cows held which were served end of june start of July which im dissappointed with. Prob looking at an empty rate of 16% in cows at a guess until final lot are scanned. Otherwise happy with early season but as usual a lot of work to do with the middle to end of season. Will get a second bull next year I'd say


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  • #612
    Timmaay
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    sounds quite similar to me milked out, I'm definitely thinking about a teaser next year, alongside a bull. Frazz you'll be happy to hear I took your advise and removed the bull, anything else can wait till the autum. just need to offload him asap, and tell the AI man he is barred, in case my dad gets any notions with cows who come bulling, he's not a fan of block calving either ha.


  • #613
    frazzledhome
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    sounds quite similar to me milked out, I'm definitely thinking about a teaser next year, alongside a bull. Frazz you'll be happy to hear I took your advise and removed the bull, anything else can wait till the autum. just need to offload him asap, and tell the AI man he is barred, in case my dad gets any notions with cows who come bulling, he's not a fan of block calving either ha.

    Tim, ask him to trust you on this one. Guarantee it'll be the end of Ayr calving.


  • #614
    Milked out
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    sounds quite similar to me milked out, I'm definitely thinking about a teaser next year, alongside a bull. Frazz you'll be happy to hear I took your advise and removed the bull, anything else can wait till the autum. just need to offload him asap, and tell the AI man he is barred, in case my dad gets any notions with cows who come bulling, he's not a fan of block calving either ha.

    Teaser Def helps, had one this year and submission improved. It was the conception rates at the end of june and July that dissappointed me. Weather was poor but solids percentages and lactose all ahead of last year every month. Will see what final scan at end of sep comes back with. With those numbers as is I'll prob have the option to sell the ones calving later in may depending on how calving goes.


  • #615
    Greengrass1
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    Reckon no heifers going to be bulled this winter by the looks from what dad says after talking to milk advisor today


  • #616
    Milked out
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Reckon no heifers going to be bulled this winter by the looks from what dad says after talking to milk advisor today

    Exiting winter milk?


  • #617
    Greengrass1
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    Milked out wrote: »
    Exiting winter milk?

    Still not sure tbh dont have a massive bsileys contract and dont really want to incresse what winter milkers we calve and have been told demand for baileys contract isn't there last few yrs.


  • #618
    whelan2
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    had a cow for ai the other day-late calver- asked ai man for kya , he said he cant be got! Used ztp instead


  • #619
    Greengrass1
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    had a cow for ai the other day-late calver- asked ai man for kya , he said he cant be got! Used ztp instead

    I haf trouble getting him too for my april calvers.
    Used ztp and rgz I think along with him.
    Hopefully they will drop as early as kya did


  • #620
    Timmaay
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Reckon no heifers going to be bulled this winter by the looks from what dad says after talking to milk advisor today

    Stopped serving Autumn heifers here 2 years ago, except for any carryovers. Only had one autumn heifer born last year. Trying to push a 1st lactation cow from the Autumn to the spring I've found to be a disaster, around this time of the year they dry themselves off, and spend 5/6months dry. The only solution is not to breed any replacements this time of the year, front load them in the spring and calf as 2yrs olds, the fertility here with the cows was fairly crap this year but front loading the heifers is my get out of jail card.


  • #621
    Timmaay
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    dairy and parlour grant inspection tomorrow morning, I've had 4months to get the dairy finished, and there I was till 8.30 finishing it off in a panic haha. I may get a can of expanding foam to fill in the last few holes in the morning ha.


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  • #622
    Greengrass1
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    Stopped serving Autumn heifers here 2 years ago, except for any carryovers. Only had one autumn heifer born last year. Trying to push a 1st lactation cow from the Autumn to the spring I've found to be a disaster, around this time of the year they dry themselves off, and spend 5/6months dry. The only solution is not to breed any replacements this time of the year, front load them in the spring and calf as 2yrs olds, the fertility here with the cows was fairly crap this year but front loading the heifers is my get out of jail card.
    Trying to build numbers so wasn't thinking about breeding cows to beef.

    Be down 15% heifers if breed all to beef.
    Might be no bad thing. Beef semen cheaper than dairy semen.
    Reduce costs and all that


  • #623
    Timmaay
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Trying to build numbers so wasn't thinking about breeding cows to beef.

    Be down 15% heifers if breed all to beef.
    Might be no bad thing. Beef semen cheaper than dairy semen.
    Reduce costs and all that

    If only sexed was more reliable we'd be sorted.


  • #624
    tanko
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    If only sexed was more reliable we'd be sorted.

    Could you put a figure on the difference in conception rates between sexed and conventional semen?


  • #625
    Timmaay
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    tanko wrote: »
    Could you put a figure on the difference in conception rates between sexed and conventional semen?

    sexed, 35/40%, conventional 55/60% I think.


  • #626
    jaymla627
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Trying to build numbers so wasn't thinking about breeding cows to beef.

    Be down 15% heifers if breed all to beef.
    Might be no bad thing. Beef semen cheaper than dairy semen.
    Reduce costs and all that

    You'll also have a nice few extra euro from calf sales, been putting everything to dairy ai the past 3 years here, totally changing direction next year with dairy ai only being used on cows for first 4 weeks then beef bulls are being used, will go with sexed semen on heifers and clean up with freisian stock bull after 6 weeks ai on them too....


  • #627
    Mehaffey1
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    So it's official the two new kiwi workers we have are twats.

    One has sprained his ankle falling off the rails in the parlour after jumping up to read a tag. He's also left tapes open in the milkers overnight, lost his bikes petrol cap twice, made a mess of the house so much the other worker has shifted to the outhouse and his own dad has said he is a bull****er after being caught out lying to the bosses.

    Other is not so bad just very slow (cups 10 cows to my 30 after a month working here). Gave me crap the other day when I asked him to do a fence and wash his bike after pm milking at bloody 4.05pm. Boss and me milked this afternoon at 2mins 30 a row quicker, that's serious.

    There's my gripe of the week, stay tuned for more by the looks of things!


  • #628
    Milked out
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    Scanned heifers 22 out of 26 in calf. 3 of the 4 I had left in the group in hope rather than expectation so not too dissappointed with them but 1 was the biggest one there ai'd in early May. Vet said she was fine so maybe lost the embryo at some stage in summer.


  • #629
    Milked out
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    Advisor took some grass to sample last week, came back at 28.7% p, 19% dm, 11.2 me. No dmd value on report for some reason. Field hadn't got fert for 2.5 weeks 30 units I think so surprised that the p was so high. Paddock hadn't been cut just grazed all season. To keep condition on cows with protein like that in grass would nearly be worth keeping in the meal, 14% p will be a greater response this time of year anyway


  • #630
    whelan2
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    had hoof pairing man here today, had 4 dry cows to be done, and a few milkers. Was being very careful with them, one of the dry cow's back legs went down between the bars of the galvanised safety opening on gang slat behind the parlour. Blood everywhere, hoofcare man put a nappy on it and covered it with tape


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  • #631
    Greengrass1
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    Interesting statement I seen today.
    High scc cows have 50% reduction in conception at first serve


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