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Those "German" style reg plates.

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  • #122
    Marty McFly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,222 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    umop apisdn wrote: »
    No, not exactly, again your words don't fit well in my mouth. German cars are not the worst, but they are only average, which means they are not worth the extra money and hassle in my book.

    Average? If you've ever driven most modern cars you'd see BMW are streets ahead of most imo.

    The likes of of Opel, Volkswagen are nowhere near as nice to drive or feel anywhere near as solid or have anywhere near the engine range a 1.6 tDi or a 6 cylinder diesel I know which I'd rather and gives a nicer drive.


  • #123
    umop apisdn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭umop apisdn


    Marty McFly wrote: »
    Average? If you've ever driven most modern cars you'd see BMW are streets ahead of most imo.

    The likes of of Opel, Volkswagen are nowhere near as nice to drive or feel anywhere near as solid.

    I've owned two BMW's in the last 7 years, no great shakes to be honest. Cost a fortune to buy and were a rip off to maintain. As I said before, I don't classify anything by GM as German.


  • #124
    Marty McFly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,222 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    umop apisdn wrote: »
    I've owned two BMW's in the last 7 years, no great shakes to be honest. Cost a fortune to buy and were a rip off to maintain. As I said before, I don't classify anything by GM as German.

    What BMW's did you own?


  • #125
    Neilw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭Neilw


    umop apisdn wrote: »
    No, not exactly, again your words don't fit well in my mouth. German cars are not the worst, but they are only average, which means they are not worth the extra money and hassle in my book, but if you're happy t pay extra for them, knock yourself out. It's not my money.

    I'm just curious, I own 3 German cars myself and I'm very happy to pay a small premium for the cars I have.
    Two are more or less reliable, the third has let me down once in the past 6 months but imo that's a small price to pay for what I have.

    I change cars a lot but I'm finding it difficult to pick something other than German to change to next.


  • #126
    TherapyBoy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭TherapyBoy


    My car's better than your car.

    Moderator: Non Drinkers Group & Grand Theft Auto



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  • #127
    umop apisdn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭umop apisdn


    Marty McFly wrote: »
    What BMW's did you own?

    But sure they are all great if they're German and BMW, or is that not correct ?


  • #128
    Marty McFly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,222 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    umop apisdn wrote: »
    But sure they are all great if they're German and BMW, or is that not correct ?

    No never said that just wondering if your passing your judgement based on a 318 or an m5.

    For me in the two BMW'S I have had no other car has met my requirements as in a bit of luxury but also with some power to boot.


  • #129
    umop apisdn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭umop apisdn


    Marty McFly wrote: »
    No never said that just wondering if your passing your judgement based on a 318 or an m5.

    That self contradicts the German car is superior argument then. The 318 is German and a BMW, and also you have to compare like with like, there's little point in comparing an m5 to an avensis D4D, or a 318 to a mazda3 if that's what you're planning to try.
    Marty McFly wrote: »
    No never said that just wondering if your passing your judgement based on a 318 or an m5.

    The equivalent money spent on another well chosen marque will get you just as good a car, and probably more reliable, better condition and newer, and probably better styled.


  • #130
    NickDunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭NickDunne


    umop apisdn wrote: »
    That self contradicts the German car is superior argument then.

    You have to compare like with like, there's little point in comparing an m5 to an avensis D4D, or a 318 to a mazda3 if that's what you're planning to try.




    The equivalent money spent on another well chosen marque will get you just as good a car, and probably more reliable, better condition and newer, and probably better styled.

    What has ANY of this got to do with the thread title?? You're nearly as bad as Hachiko for dragging threads off topic...

    umop apisdn wrote: »
    The popularity of German cars in Ireland is a bit of a contraction, given their unreliability and high prices. Not something the Irish normally take to.

    100% trolling, came out of nowhere and nothing about "German style reg plates" relates to unreliablity or high prices of German cars. Thread ruined.


  • #131
    Marty McFly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,222 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    umop apisdn wrote: »
    That self contradicts the German car is superior argument then. The 318 is German and a BMW, and also you have to compare like with like, there's little point in comparing an m5 to an avensis D4D, or a 318 to a mazda3 if that's what you're planning to try.



    The equivalent money spent on another well chosen marque will get you just as good a car, and probably more reliable, better condition and newer, and probably better styled.


    Not really what car do mazda or Toyota offer in anything remotely exciting? My last two cars have been 3.0 show me a mazda or Toyota that can offer me that. The reliability bit is bull crap to.


    You keep answering questions with questions :pac:


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  • #132
    umop apisdn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭umop apisdn


    NickDunne wrote: »
    What has ANY of this got to do with the thread title?? You're nearly as bad as Hachiko for dragging threads off topic...


    100% trolling, came out of nowhere and nothing about "German style reg plates" relates to unreliablity or high prices of German cars. Thread ruined.

    Its to do the obsession with all things German including number plates. Do they do better number plates as well ? I made mention of it once in one post, and then suddenly faced panic and the Spanish inquisition, are some BMW /German car owners really that insecure ?


  • #133
    umop apisdn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭umop apisdn


    Marty McFly wrote: »
    Not really what car do mazda or Toyota offer in anything remotely exciting? My last two cars have been 3.0 show me a mazda or Toyota that can offer me that. The reliability bit is bull crap to.


    You keep answering questions with questions :pac:

    Toyota and Mazda are just makes.
    So you are trying to compare a M5 to an Avensis D4D and a 3 series to a Mazda 3 ? That explains it.
    What are you going to try and compare a 318 to next ? A 1.4 ford focus ?


  • #134
    Marty McFly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,222 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    umop apisdn wrote: »
    Toyota and Mazda are just makes.
    So you are trying to compare a M5 to an Avensis D4D and a 3 series to a Mazda 3 ? That explains it.

    So another question to answer a question :pac:

    This has just become a pointless debate.

    Back on topic I'm not a fan of German style plates but bmw audi reg surrounds not advertising a garage name go for it imo.


  • #135
    umop apisdn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭umop apisdn


    Marty McFly wrote: »
    This has just become a pointless debate.

    Until you come up with an accurate point as to why German cars are better than any other car, or a German number plate is better than any other one, then yes.


  • #136
    Marty McFly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,222 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    umop apisdn wrote: »
    Until you come up with an accurate point as to why German cars are better than any other car, or a German number plate is better than any other one, then yes.



    Brilliant run along now.


  • #137
    NickDunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭NickDunne


    umop apisdn wrote: »
    Its to do the obsession with all things German including number plates. Do they do better number plates as well ? I made mention of it once in one post, and then suddenly faced panic and the Spanish inquisition, are some BMW /German car owners really that insecure ?

    Yes but the number plate thing is paying homage to the German authenticity of the car. Like Honda owners like genuine mugen parts and Jap plates on their noise boxes:eek:;) Its a style thing that adds to the car in their eyes.

    As for the matter of being "better"? I've had much more enjoyable conversations with lads about how their car(German or otherwise) has broken down and how they went about fixing it. Rather than "Yeah my cars never broken down once". But then again I'm a petrolhead. Maybe that concept is foreign to you.


  • #138
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Technique wrote: »
    He had an Opel Kadett in the 70's that gave an awful lot of trouble.

    Well I had a Kadett C in the 80's and it was a great car. German car industry saved.
    Though more of a Ford guy these days. Great German cars.


  • #139
    Foxhole Norman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭Foxhole Norman


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  • #140
    Hachiko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    umop apisdn wrote: »
    I used to big fan of German motors, and as a result had quite a few German cars over the years and I found all of them only average at best in all those departments, combined with the lack of reliability, and high prices, and high repair costs, and in recent years, the even more drab than usual styling, inside and out - they just don't float my boat anymore or live up to the hype. I know this is against the groupthink, but hey what can I do.

    I do agree German cars are overhyped. They are nothing to write home about.

    It doesn't matter to me how good looking a car is, if it costs me more money than I would like to maintain, I am not interested.

    German petrol cars by and large are great, can't beat a nice big 6 pot engine. I am not a fan of turbos too much to go wrong in second hand buys.

    The diesels are a different matter entirely, In the UK they are all almost all fleet cars and flogged off after 4 years or so with very high milage and will cost unsuspecting punters far more money than they bargained for.


  • #141
    Hachiko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    Marty McFly wrote: »
    No never said that just wondering if your passing your judgement based on a 318 or an m5.

    For me in the two BMW'S I have had no other car has met my requirements as in a bit of luxury but also with some power to boot.

    Well specced BMWs are fantastic, The reliability is not up there with Japanese marques. Countless surveys have confirmed this.

    Diesel engines I will pass. A V6/V8 petrol is in a different league to any diesel of any size. They are also far more reliable. I would gladly forsake cheap tax for a larger CC petrol.


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  • #142
    oleras
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭oleras


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    It's just what reality dictates. Not all of us can run a 2.5 liter petrol turbo 6 cylinder for the daily grind, Ireland is a country that specifically makes it very expensive, wouldn't want to see anyone getting on and doing better sort of thing...
    We're more "see that bastard doing well, I'll soon fix his wagon!" and "I see you got some money there, well you'll be giving that to me now when the new nose and ear tax comes into effect!"
    In Ireland we don't do support and encourage, we do tax, ban and fcuk you for every cent you got.

    Curiosity and all that.

    Since you seem to know, any chance you could give me a comparison between us and the other EU countries wrt running costs on a 2.5L petrol turbo 6 cyl doing the daily grind ?


  • #143
    Hachiko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    interesting question, everyone thinks Ireland is a rip off for car tax, but Italy, Denmark, Netherlands are pretty bad places also. The UK while many think its cheap, most people would pull their eyes out before forking out £500+ on tax a year. Average salary for most people is mid or late 20s


  • #144
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    oleras wrote: »
    Curiosity and all that.

    Since you seem to know, any chance you could give me a comparison between us and the other EU countries wrt running costs on a 2.5L petrol turbo 6 cyl doing the daily grind ?

    For starters you can insure a 20 year old, petrol, 6 cylinder, 2.5 liter BMW for less than €500 in Germany, if you just want an old runaround. Not as a classic, but a daily runner.
    There is also no VRT, so the purchase price is lower if you're buying new. I don't know tax off the top of my head, but I bet you any amount it won't be €1080 per annum.


  • #145
    Marty McFly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,222 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    Hachiko wrote: »
    interesting question, everyone thinks Ireland is a rip off for car tax, but Italy, Denmark, Netherlands are pretty bad places also. The UK while many think its cheap, most people would pull their eyes out before forking out £500+ on tax a year. Average salary for most people is mid or late 20s

    In the UK isn't a 3.0 about 250 pound for a year to tax?


  • #146
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,539 ✭✭✭jca


    Marty McFly wrote: »
    In the UK isn't a 3.0 about 250 pound for a year to tax?

    No not necessarily, they've gone emissions based like here.


  • #147
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Off-topicness closed this thread.


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