The 3 favs for the next US president is crazy. How can 2 families have so much power?

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I was listening to Republican Carly Fiorina recently on Crowder and thought she came across very well, doesn't have a hope of getting the nomination though.

I'd say the GOP can will be Jeb Bush. Trump will cause mayhem for them if he ends up running as an Independent because he'll split their vote.

I think she is the best candidate too...but not a hope of getting the nomination.

Trump is a clown, but a populist one. If he does not get the nomination and goes independent then Artillery Hillary is a shoe in.

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

I don't think they are taking him seriously.

After the primaries start, I can see his campaign fizzling out.

there taking him seriously now, they have to, he is beating them all in the polls

he has a real chance, I should have backed him when he was a 50/1 shot :mad:

Deleted User wrote: »

How much does the Hispanic/Latino vote count, I wonder? I would assume it's safe to say that Trump has lost the majority of these, though doesn't he still believe that they love him?

it matters little in the GOP race

in theory its possible for him to win without them, by being anti immigration he could take some of the black and working class votes that usually vote dems

Good old land of the brave & free... with their political family dynasties (modern equivalent of monarchy/royalty) allied with that two party dictatorship they call democracy! lol

nokia69 wrote: »

Fiorina is a total idiot, she almost killed HP god only knows what kind of damage she would do from the white house

I'm amazed that people still think monica lewinsky's boyfriend's ex wife has any kind of chance, most of her own party hate her and that includes Obama, it doesn't seem to get reported much over here but Hillary may well end up doing time for her E-mail stupidity

Anybody who earn a personal salary of $100million in 6 years is not an idiot!
She more than doubled HP income from 40 to 90 billion per year making it the 10th largest company in the US at the time.
They averaged 11 patents per day under her reign, more than at any time in their history and triple what it was when she joined. But shareholder value was decreased whilst profit margin was 7.6% in the year of her departure. That is $7 billion profit!
Hardly 'killing' the company.

nokia69 wrote: »

the woman is an idiot and she was a disaster at HP you won't find anyone who knows anything about HP who would disagree, you clearly know nothing about her time at HP

http://fortune.com/2015/08/14/carly-fiorina-president-2/





30K jobs lost, a few more years with her at the wheel and HP would be long gone

7 billion profit is not killing the company! Its a handsome amount of money.
30k losing their jobs is not always a bad thing. That is called controlling your cost base to maximise profits. That is what shareholders expect. Trim the fat.

If 7 billion profit is your idea of killing a company then good luck to you.
And you would hardly call Leo a success when he ran the place. Or randy pants Mark Hurd....

Menas wrote: »

7 billion profit is not killing the company! Its a handsome amount of money.

depends on the company and what its previous profits were, in the end the stock rising when she left is a good indication of what people think of her

Menas wrote: »

30k losing their jobs is not always a bad thing. That is called controlling your cost base to maximise profits. That is what shareholders expect. Trim the fat.

the jobs were lost because Fiorina is an idiot not in some fat trimming exercise

Menas wrote: »

If 7 billion profit is your idea of killing a company then good luck to you.
And you would hardly call Leo a success when he ran the place. Or randy pants Mark Hurd....

its not hard to make a profit in the beginning plenty of idiots manage it for a while

at one point she wanted to buy PwC Consulting for 18 billion dollars in cash, made the offer and PwC accepted subject to the usual clauses. HP insiders told her she was ****ing insane (there was little IP and obviously no staff retention guarantees). She changed the offer to 16.5 billion split between cash and stock. PwC said no. Less than a year later it was sold to IBM for 5 billion. PwC looked very stupid and Carly dodged a career ending bullet by complete luck, the woman is an idiot that one deal would have lost billions

if she is such a business genius and leader then why has no other company offered her a job

nokia69 wrote: »

depends on the company and what its previous profits were, in the end the stock rising when she left is a good indication of what people think of her





the jobs were lost because Fiorina is an idiot not in some fat trimming exercise



its not hard to make a profit in the beginning plenty of idiots manage it for a while

at one point she wanted to buy PwC Consulting for 18 billion dollars in cash, made the offer and PwC accepted subject to the usual clauses. HP insiders told her she was ****ing insane (there was little IP and obviously no staff retention guarantees). She changed the offer to 16.5 billion split between cash and stock. PwC said no. Less than a year later it was sold to IBM for 5 billion. PwC looked very stupid and Carly dodged a career ending bullet by complete luck, the woman is an idiot that one deal would have lost billions

if she is such a business genius and leader then why has no other company offered her a job

I never said she was a business genius.

Pay attention now. You said she was an idiot and that she nearly killed HP. I have given evidence on how she clearly is not an idiot and did not nearly kill HP.

All you have offered is some opinion pieces from a quick google. So, can you give me some facts that show that she is an idiot and that she nearly drove HP out of business?

Hillary Clinton had this to say about Edward Snowden's seeking political asylum in Russia.

"When he emerged and when he absconded with all that material, I was puzzled because we have all these protections for whistle-blowers. If he were concerned and wanted to be part of the American debate, he could have been," she said. "But it struck me as—I just have to be honest with you—as sort of odd that he would flee to China, because Hong Kong is controlled by China, and that he would then go to Russia—two countries with which we have very difficult cyberrelationships, to put it mildly."

She's either the world's most slow witted imbecile, utterly incapable of adding 2 to 2, wandering ass faced through her existence on her husbands coat tails, proceeding through life like a cat without whiskers perpetually caught behind the refrigerator. Or she is a lying, morally devoid, filth bag. I wouldn't trust her to run a bath.

Gerry Rio wrote: »

Donald Trump has a real chance of becoming the next president of the United States?

:pac:


Seriously?

no, I mean getting the republican nomination, right now 50/1 would be a great bet