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Male rape is funny, according to New York Post

  • 21-08-2015 08:40PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭


    Jared Fogle, who appeared in many ads for Subway in the United States, has been convicted of possessing child pornography, as well as paying for sex with minors.

    By all accounts, a disgusting man.

    However, should the New York Post really be joking about him being raped in prison? Their headline was "Enjoy a foot long in Jail".

    More men are raped than woman in the whole of the United States, when one takes into account prison rapes.

    In 2013, the Department of Justice in the US released figures that showed that 216,000 inmates were sexually assaulted while serving time, compared to 90,479 rape cases outside of prison.

    Fogle may be an atrocious human being, but men being raped in prison is not something about which a national newspaper should be joking.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    fcuk that guy, child molesting scum.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I only discovered that statistic for rape in prisons recently and it horrifies me that it isn't discussed more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,294 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Hopefully he gets EVERYTHING he deserves and more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    I'm surprised at the shock... He was well known for trying to get into small pants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    I feel like I've let myself down.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭HardenendMan


    People often make light of prison rape - "don't drop the soap" etc. The reality is that the prison rapists are animals. Actually that is insulting to animals. No rational person can condone the torture that they inflict.

    But what are people's views on the rape of men where a woman is the rapist? Does this occur at all? I can't imagine how it can with the exception of disabled men. Am I wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    This link belongs in the "Is the west anti-men" thread. Perfect example of one of the most egregious double standards in modern society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Jared Fogle, who appeared in many ads for Subway in the United States, has been convicted of possessing child pornography, as well as paying for sex with minors.

    By all accounts, a disgusting man.

    However, should the New York Post really be joking about him being raped in prison? Their headline was "Enjoy a foot long in Jail".

    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    "Tabloid Rag Acting Like Tabloid Rag Shock".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    But what are people's views on the rape of men where a woman is the rapist? Does this occur at all? I can't imagine how it can with the exception of disabled men. Am I wrong?

    Yes, it can and does happen. I don't see why it should be considered different to any other rape but I would imagine it's hugely under reported because the victim would think no one would believe him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    People often make light of prison rape - "don't drop the soap" etc. The reality is that the prison rapists are animals. Actually that is insulting to animals. No rational person can condone the torture that they inflict.

    But what are people's views on the rape of men where a woman is the rapist? Does this occur at all? I can't imagine how it can with the exception of disabled men. Am I wrong?

    You're wrong. It can happen fairly easily.

    Fear can cause an erection.

    Physical stimulation, unwanted or not, can cause an erection. Similar to how some women can orgasm through rape because of the physical stimulation.

    As for the OP - that's a horribly crass post. Yeah, the guy is an absolute scumbag and his crimes are vile, but to joke about him being raped? There would be a massive outcry if the same were said about a woman. It's horrible that rape on a male victim is seen as a lesser crime than rape on a female, in some peoples' eyes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,131 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    I've seen the same sentiment expressed on here many times on threads about rapists or murderers. I think it's easier for people to ignore the actual reality of rape when it involves someone particularly repugnant.

    The NY Post is a rag anyway but that headline is in very poor taste.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭Wright


    Jared Fogle, who appeared in many ads for Subway in the United States, has been convicted of possessing child pornography, as well as paying for sex with minors.

    By all accounts, a disgusting man.

    However, should the New York Post really be joking about him being raped in prison? Their headline was "Enjoy a foot long in Jail".

    More men are raped than woman in the whole of the United States, when one takes into account prison rapes.

    In 2013, the Department of Justice in the US released figures that showed that 216,000 inmates were sexually assaulted while serving time, compared to 90,479 rape cases outside of prison.

    Fogle may be an atrocious human being, but men being raped in prison is not something about which a national newspaper should be joking.

    Here

    Geez. I thought this was going to be a fake outrage, mens rights thread judging by the title. Nope. That is a straight up not ok thing to put in a newspaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,116 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    Of course it's not ok for a newspaper to print this sort of stuff - but it's the New York Post, people. What do you expect? They make a living out of their reputation for shocking headlines. They announced a brutal murder with a huge front page asking "who didn't want him dead?" and a very negative article about him, calling him a millionaire Hasidic slum landlord.

    The reason for this headline is the same reason for the negative coverage of Max Stark (the murdered landlord) : it's an eye for an eye approach to justice. Everyone here who has ever posted that such and such a murderer deserves to be killed is doing exactly the same thing.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    It's a nasty headline but it's par for the course. The NY Post is the US equivalent of The Sun or the Daily Mail and we all know the kind of crap they print.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    I admit, I found it funny. I don't think it's making light of prison rape though, just having a good laugh at a scumbag.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭cerastes


    Nodin wrote: »
    "Tabloid Rag Acting Like Tabloid Rag Shock".

    So you think its acceptable?
    The person might be despicable, but condoning something similar in retribution? that's somehow not as sick?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭the dark phantom


    The worst piece of paper on the east coast
    Matter of fact the whole state's forty cents
    in New York City fifty cents elsewhere
    It makes no goddamn sense at all
    America's oldest continuously published daily piece of bull****


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    I only discovered that statistic for rape in prisons recently and it horrifies me that it isn't discussed more.

    Fcuk that, I'm paying my water bill right now.

    No one's getting this peachy ass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    Yeah it's wrong but it's about a scumbag who deserves the worst the world can give him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭cerastes


    fcuk that guy, child molesting scum.

    Is that half a joke?
    The worst piece of paper on the east coast
    Matter of fact the whole state's forty cents
    in New York City fifty cents elsewhere
    It makes no goddamn sense at all
    America's oldest continuously published daily piece of bull****

    It does look like a rag, but they are practically condoning rape by convicted criminals, of any convicted person?
    Who better to mete out punishment than other criminals???
    possibly cheaper than toilet paper, because its already smeared in ****


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭the dark phantom


    Fcuk that, I'm paying my water bill right now.

    No one's getting this peachy ass.

    Our most notorious prison rapist is long well dead, Anthony the beast Cawley.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Kids tv shows, main stream comedies and comedians have all made jail rape jokes. It's one of those things that's deemed culturally acceptable when it clearly fcking shouldn't.

    As for the gender issue here, what a fcking strawman!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,324 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    People often make light of prison rape - "don't drop the soap" etc. The reality is that the prison rapists are animals. Actually that is insulting to animals. No rational person can condone the torture that they inflict.

    But what are people's views on the rape of men where a woman is the rapist? Does this occur at all? I can't imagine how it can with the exception of disabled men. Am I wrong?

    I remember a story back in the 1990s in the Glasgow Evening Times newspaper about some poor guy who was caught by a female gang in Balanark, in Glasgow's East End and who was subjected to rape and a gang bang.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Turtwig wrote: »
    As for the gender issue here, what a fcking strawman!

    Especially considering that it's almost always men making jokes about the subject


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    Jail rape is considered acceptable because we like to believe that everyone in prison is a horrific monster like that serial killers portrayed on the CSIs and Law and Orders of the world. Far easier to just write it off as added punishment for their crimes rather than face what it actually is.

    This is doubly the case when it comes to child molesters. How often have we seen it in TV shows where the police will actually use the threat of sending the paedophile to prison to be gang raped as coercion into to getting a confession? The audience is expected to see this as some sort of righteous act.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    I've seen the same sentiment expressed on here many times on threads about rapists or murderers. I think it's easier for people to ignore the actual reality of rape when it involves someone particularly repugnant.

    The NY Post is a rag anyway but that headline is in very poor taste.

    It's a sentiment that doesn't even make sense. What about the person who commits the rape. Are they good or bad because the victim is considered a scumbag??

    Rape is disgusting. I mean jails are meant to protect inmates from one another.Rape in prisons shouldn't happen. Are the perpetrators brought to justice or is it brushed under the carpet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,090 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    A part of me says the headline is wrong and rape against a man or woman is not to be laughed at but in his case I am finding it hard to feel outraged at what's awaiting him. To me the worst crime is child rape/porn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Yeah, I'm confused - did I read that right? That scumbag raped/molested children? And people here are up in arms that he might get raped and that a newspaper made light of it?

    Children, small people that shouldn't know about sex, that can't defend themselves, that most likely were hurt during the process and are probably still hurting mentally - He did that and people here are worried about that bastards feelings??

    What the actual ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    Yeah, I'm confused - did I read that right? That scumbag raped/molested children? And people here are up in arms that he might get raped and that a newspaper made light of it?

    Children, small people that shouldn't know about sex, that can't defend themselves, that most likely were hurt during the process and are probably still hurting mentally - He did that and people here are worried about that bastards feelings??

    What the actual ****.

    Why bother imprison him? Let's just stone him to death!


    "Ah come on, that's insane. That's how them crazy Sharia Law countries enforce their laws. We wouldn't want that here... let's just send him to prison and hope he gets raped. That way, we can act like we're so progressive and civilised, but in actuality we lust for blood just as much as those middle eastern countries we look down on."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    A part of me says the headline is wrong and rape against a man or woman is not to be laughed at but in his case I am finding it hard to feel outraged at what's awaiting him. To me the worst crime is child rape/porn.

    Do you make no distinction between the two?

    Is watching a video of someone get murdered just the same as murdering someone?

    I never heard of the guy in question before this thread, but as far as I can see the only person he's been convicted of having sex with was 17 years of age at the time.


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