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Dan Jaman · 18-08-2015 02:40PM

Ah well; so-long Service Dogs Ireland, it was grand knowing you (or not).

Atlantic Dawn · 18-08-2015 02:40PM

Ha ha, a "so to speak" right back at Joe.

18-08-2015 02:40PM

So to speak. Joe won't like that hijacking

Pretzill · 18-08-2015 02:41PM

Haven't heard all of this but what happens to the dogs they send back?
Have a sinking feeling about this company - but dogs do poo & pee and rip up things etc - you need to be committed to having a dog - sound like these people were sold a pup litterally!

Not all dogs make good service dogs and they require a lot of training - you'd never expect to get a puppy - some people are easily taken in.

2smiggy · 18-08-2015 02:41PM

odds an 'Laura' with a border accent ?

kirving · 18-08-2015 02:41PM

Was listening to this in the car until a few minutes ago. Yeah, 6k is a lot to pay to get a dog trained. But in reality, how does that compare to what a Guide Dog costs to train (a good portion of which I believe is homed with families for free).

If a man dealer garage charges me €100 an hour labour, 6k will give me 60 hours. Can you turn a dog into a medical device (wtf Joe) in 60 hours? 120 hours? 180 hours? That hourly rate is dropping fast.

I have no experience with dogs, but I don't think you can train anyone or any animal on a one to one basis to the level expected for that kind of money.

18-08-2015 02:42PM

Let's see how Joe treats this caller, supporting Service Dogs Ireland.

18-08-2015 02:44PM

We have two Golden Retrievers. They're not trained service dogs, but they do love children. They just couldn't eat a whole one.

Roger_007 · 18-08-2015 02:44PM

A service dog for PMT?

snubbleste · 18-08-2015 02:44PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

A service dog for PMT?

PTSD silly

Mike Guide 69 · 18-08-2015 02:44PM

Permanent PTSB???

Atlantic Dawn · 18-08-2015 02:45PM

You would NOT be able to join the Armed Forces if:

You have a diagnosis of epilepsy or
You have had more than one seizure since your sixth birthday

https://www.epilepsy.org.uk/info/employment/uk-employment-restrictions/army-navy-air-force

2smiggy · 18-08-2015 02:45PM

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Was listening to this in the car until a few minutes ago. Yeah, 6k is a lot to pay to get a dog trained. But in reality, how does that compare to what a Guide Dog costs to train (a good portion of which I believe is homed with families for free).

If a man dealer garage charges me €100 an hour labour, 6k will give me 60 hours. Can you turn a dog into a medical device (wtf Joe) in 60 hours? 120 hours? 180 hours? That hourly rate is dropping fast.

I have no experience with dogs, but I don't think you can train anyone or any animal on a one to one basis to the level expected for that kind of money.

exactly, but he is taking the money claiming they can train them, for what is a lot of money

18-08-2015 02:45PM

Checks for dog pooh under car before moving off.

Dan Jaman · 18-08-2015 02:45PM

I'd say there's still some people not too far away do all that checking every day.

Pretzill · 18-08-2015 02:45PM

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Was listening to this in the car until a few minutes ago. Yeah, 6k is a lot to pay to get a dog trained. But in reality, how does that compare to what a Guide Dog costs to train (a good portion of which I believe is homed with families for free).

If a man dealer garage charges me €100 an hour labour, 6k will give me 60 hours. Can you turn a dog into a medical device (wtf Joe) in 60 hours? 120 hours? 180 hours? That hourly rate is dropping fast.

I have no experience with dogs, but I don't think you can train anyone or any animal on a one to one basis to the level expected for that kind of money.

And that's why you never see a puppy guide dog leading someone - months of training and then I'm sure a few visits to the potential owner to aclimatise etc. It would be the luck of the draw with these lads coupled with inexperienced ownership and a 6k bill for starters

dinneenp · 18-08-2015 02:45PM

Jesus, he's still on about the dogs! surely time to move onto another topic (no offence for people who are affected by this company)

Roger_007 · 18-08-2015 02:45PM

snubbleste wrote: »

PTSD silly

Oops!

Mike Guide 69 · 18-08-2015 02:46PM

"Aye nae a puppy"

Tiger Mcilroy · 18-08-2015 02:47PM

So the dog hasnt been trained yet?...hows this a positive for the euro service dogs crowd...

sligojoek · 18-08-2015 02:47PM

dinneenp wrote: »

Jesus, he's still on about the dogs! surely time to move onto another topic (no offence for people who are affected by this company)

Yea. The hatchet job has been done. Move on.

SEPT 23 1989 · 18-08-2015 02:47PM

snubbleste · 18-08-2015 02:48PM

What about all the people holding on waiting to talk about schoolbooks?

Roger_007 · 18-08-2015 02:48PM

I thought the Scots were supposed to be canny?

2smiggy · 18-08-2015 02:48PM

they gave her an untrained puppy ? what exactly is she happy about ? This sounds bizarre really

CarrickMcJoe · 18-08-2015 02:48PM

€1500 to put a dog on a ferry...

folamh · 18-08-2015 02:49PM

How does Harry not know his position in the company? And how can he not know what qualifications his trainers have (despite advertising this on the website)? And then not knowing what Joe was referring to about the legal staff? Even the shoddiest scam artist would know to prepare before going on the radio...

More than a few typos on the website btw, very unprofessional. http://www.topdogtraining.ie/our-staff-2/

18-08-2015 02:49PM

Sounds like she bought a puppy. Pure and simple. She's shelling out money into the future for a puppy. Nothing more or less. Desperate stuff.

signostic · 18-08-2015 02:49PM

translator
Scottish to english...

an = and

anymair = anymore

auld = old

aw = all

awn = own

ay = yes

cannae = cannot

coont = count

dae = do

daen't = don't

daith = death

dee = die

deid = dead

dee'd = died

didnae = did not

disnae = does not

doon/doun = down

fou = full

g** = go

geit = get

gie = give

hae = have

hauf = half

heid = head

hoom = home

h*** = hour

licht = light

ma = my

mak = make

nae = no / not

niver = never

oor = our

oot = out

o = of

pairt = part

richt = right

shuid = should

shouder = shoulder

tae = to

tak = take

thae = those

thare = there

thay = they

the day = today

the nite = tonight

wad = would

wye = way

wi = with

ye / ya = you

Tiger Mcilroy · 18-08-2015 02:49PM

This positive story is actually making things worse for michael...no training she basically paid 2k for a puppy to be transferred to scotland..its almost like they are scamming this one..

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