Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VI: End of the MOC [Revenge of the STH]

dub_skav · 10-08-2015 2:41pm

awec wrote: »

Did anyone get an email about sorting their Aviva seats?

No email about the Aviva, no Mosely tickets, no season ticket yet.

I think the branch have figured you out:

UnknownEntity · 11-08-2015 10:24pm

Still nothing.... ðŸ˜•ðŸ˜•ðŸ˜•

vang · 12-08-2015 10:29am

Mostly tickets arrived in post today!

12-08-2015 10:48am

vang wrote: »

Mostly tickets arrived in post today!

They mostly come at night. Mostly.

molloyjh · 12-08-2015 10:54am

Deleted User wrote: »

They mostly come at night. Mostly.

I don't know whether to post a picture of Newt or Cartman....

ktulu123 · 12-08-2015 11:06am

Mosley tickets came here too

dregin · 12-08-2015 11:25am

Glad to see everyone else is having as much difficulty as me with remembering how to spell Moseley.

Some Yoke · 12-08-2015 11:46am

Zane Kirchner is starting for South Africa against Argentina this weekend

awec · 12-08-2015 11:50am

Some Yoke wrote: »

Zane Kirchner is starting for South Africa against Argentina this weekend

Does Kircho have much of a chance of being in their WC squad?

vienne86 · 12-08-2015 11:56am

awec wrote: »

Does Kircho have much of a chance of being in their WC squad?

I wouldn't have thought so.....and I hope not.

errlloyd · 12-08-2015 12:00pm

Some Yoke wrote: »

Zane Kirchner is starting for South Africa against Argentina this weekend

The south African rugby fans fb page I'm a member of are going into collective breakdown over this.

.ak · 12-08-2015 12:02pm

Why? It's only a friendly.

total former · 12-08-2015 12:09pm

awec wrote: »

Does Kircho have much of a chance of being in their WC squad?

The cynic in me thinks that his non-white status might help his cause.

errlloyd · 12-08-2015 12:21pm

.ak wrote: »

Why? It's only a friendly.

They've had a very embarrassing rugby championship and need a win.

As for the non white thing? I've said here before that I think south African rugby is biased against coloured players and not the other way round. In the long term if south Africa could get black kids to take rugby as seriously as white kids do (through creating a pathway for them into the currie cup, super rugby and national team) they'd be a much stronger rugby nation.

thomond2006 · 12-08-2015 12:36pm

I thought a non-white quota was put in place recently?

Serbian · 12-08-2015 3:16pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

I thought a non-white quota was put in place recently?

I don't believe so. They've committed to putting seven non-white players in their squad for the matches leading up to the World Cup, but SARU were at pains to express that it's not a quota system. Effectively, they're making no guarantees over the number of non-white players that will travel to the actual World Cup.

On those grounds, I'd say it's likely that Kirchner will be used for the warm-ups, but won't make the final squad.

.ak · 12-08-2015 3:25pm

Speaking of which... Now that we have a pretty clear idea of what Leinster players won't make the RWC... We could put out a team like this:

15. Kirchner
14. Nacewa
13. T'eo
12. Reid
11. Kearney
10. Marsh
09. McGrath
08. Conan
07. Ryan
06. Locky (When's Ruddock due back?)
05. McCarthy
04. Denton
03. Furlong
02. Dundon (still listed on the website...)
01. Hagan

16. Byrne
17. Byrne/Dooley?
18. RBF
19. Beirne
20. Leavy
21. That SA dude I can't remember his name already.... :P
22. Byrne
23. Mick McGrath (or if he's feeling generous he'll let the ginger have a go...)

Not bad, few pot holes in the pack, but that's a good backline and someone with some really good talent will miss out...

dregin · 12-08-2015 3:27pm

.ak wrote: »

Speaking of which... Now that we have a pretty clear idea of what Leinster players won't make the RWC... We could put out a team like this:

15. Kirchner
14. Nacewa
13. T'eo
12. Reid
11. Kearney
10. Marsh
09. McGrath
08. Conan
07. Ryan
06. Locky (When's Ruddock due back?)
05. McCarthy
04. Denton
03. Furlong
02. Dundon (still listed on the website...)
01. Hagan

16. Byrne
17. Byrne/Dooley?
18. RBF
19. Beirne
20. Leavy
21. That SA dude I can't remember his name already.... :P
22. Byrne
23. Mick McGrath (or if he's feeling generous he'll let the ginger have a go...)

Not bad, few pot holes in the pack, but that's a good backline and someone with some really good talent will miss out...

Would expect to see Mick Kearney get a bit of game time early on.

irishbucsfan · 12-08-2015 3:27pm

I think Leavy would start over Locky, and also Moloney seemed to be favoured to Beirne last season.

total former · 12-08-2015 3:27pm

Have you just forgotten McFadden or do you think he'll make the RWC?

.ak · 12-08-2015 3:30pm

total former wrote: »

Have you just forgotten McFadden or do you think he'll make the RWC?

Nope, just forgot him. So Kearney/McFadden would be involved for the 11 jersey, loser gets 23.

.ak · 12-08-2015 3:31pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I think Leavy would start over Locky, and also Moloney seemed to be favoured to Beirne last season.

True about Moloney actually... I wonder if Locky may start ahead of Leavy as we'd be a bit light on body movers. Both Ryan and Leavy are very similar in style.. also Locky could be captain in a team like that.

.ak · 12-08-2015 3:32pm

dregin wrote: »

Would expect to see Mick Kearney get a bit of game time early on.

Won't be back from injury apparently.

dregin · 12-08-2015 3:33pm

.ak wrote: »

Won't be back from injury apparently.

Ah, didn't know he was out. What's up with him?

molloyjh · 12-08-2015 3:41pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I think Leavy would start over Locky, and also Moloney seemed to be favoured to Beirne last season.

Didn't Beirne only get a short term contract where-as Thornbury got a full-time one? Would he not be ahead of both Moloney and Beirne so?

Clearlier · 12-08-2015 4:13pm

.ak wrote: »

Nope, just forgot him. So Kearney/McFadden would be involved for the 11 jersey, loser gets 23.

What about Isa to fullback with Kirchner/Kearney/McFadden fighting it out for the wings?

molloyjh · 12-08-2015 4:18pm

Clearlier wrote: »

What about Isa to fullback with Kirchner/Kearney/McFadden fighting it out for the wings?

Yep, my take:

Byrne Byrne Furlong
Denton McCarthy
McLaughlin Conan Ryan

McGrath Marsh
Reid Te'o
D Kearney Nacewa McFadden

Dundon, Hagan, RBF, Thornbury, VDF/Leavy, Hoffman, Byrne, Kirchner/Fanning

All that assumes Isa is back up to speed. If not he goes to the bench and Kirchner or D Kearney start at FB. If Dave does then Fanj goes to the wing.

bessiem8 · 12-08-2015 5:45pm

molloyjh wrote: »

Didn't Beirne only get a short term contract where-as Thornbury got a full-time one? Would he not be ahead of both Moloney and Beirne so?

Molony still in academy though, Thornbury was graduating it was either give him a contract or lose him.

Molony is ahead of both Thornbury and Beirne.
Which was seen last year when he debuted at 20.

bessiem8 · 12-08-2015 5:48pm

Dominic Ryan is not a natural 7. Hopefully they realise that and let Leavy/JVDF start there to give backrow more balance.

Rather see Byrne start ahead of Marsh

Also Hoffman hasn't been signed as of yet. Certainly not training with the team as of last week.

stephen_n · 12-08-2015 6:18pm

No Fanning?

12-08-2015 6:44pm

Kirchner is starting for the Boks this weekend. Not sure we can rule him out of their RWC squad.

molloyjh wrote: »

All that assumes Isa is back up to speed. If not he goes to the bench and Kirchner or D Kearney start at FB. If Dave does then Fanj goes to the wing.

What am I reading. Nacewa would have to be knocking about the pitch at walking speed to bench behind Fanning.

total former · 12-08-2015 6:47pm

stephen_n wrote: »

No Fanning?

This discussion is about the team that plays during the world cup, so Fanning won't be around.

bessiem8 · 12-08-2015 6:52pm

1.Byrne
2.Bryne
3.Furlong
4.Denton/Molony
5.McCarthy
6.Ryan/Mclaughin
7.Leavy/JVDF
8.Conan
9.McGrath
10.Byrne
11.Kearney
12.Reid
13.Teo
14.McFadden
15.Nacewa
16.Dundon/Tracy
17.Hirst/Dooley
18.Hagan/RBF
19.Denton/Molony
20.One of two not starting
21.McCarthy
22.Marsh
23.Kelleher

thomond2006 · 12-08-2015 7:53pm

total former wrote: »

This discussion is about the team that plays during the world cup, so Fanning won't be around.

Sadly I think that is the last we have seen of Daragh Fanning with Leinster. Once he becomes World Rugby Player of the Year after a starring role at the World Cup Mourad Boudjellal will pay Leinster 100 BILLION DOLLARS to sign him immediately.

Guy:Incognito · 12-08-2015 11:36pm

Dont remember any talk of it at the end of last season but presumably they tried to get Jennings to play on till after the WC? Surely a few pro12 games were well doable.

bessiem8 · 12-08-2015 11:42pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Dont remember any talk of it at the end of last season but presumably they tried to get Jennings to play on till after the WC? Surely a few pro12 games were well doable.

he was breaking down as is, much rather Leavy/Van Der Flier get the experience and gametime.. who ever plays 6 will have plenty of experience anyway.

RichieRich89 · 13-08-2015 12:57am

1. Byrne
2. Dundon (better thrower than Byrne)
3. Furlong
4. Moloney (would probably complement McCarthy better than Denton would)
5. McCarthy
6. McLaughlin/Ryan
7. Leavy/van der Flier
8. Conan
9. McGrath
10. Marsh
11. McFadden
12. Te'o
13. Reid
14. Kearney
15. Nacewa

16. Byrne
17. Dooley
18. Burke-Flynn (Hagan's better, but we need to develop another TH option)
19. Denton
20. *one of the flankers who doesn't start
21. McCarthy
22. Byrne (Crosbie if Byrne isn't back from injury)
23. Kelleher

I wouldn't pick any NIQs over guys who just missed the WC squad (Kirchner over Kearney, say), because they need every chance to showcase what they've got in case there are injuries in the 31

Edit: Think I'd have Darcy at 12 alongside Reid instead of Te'o if he doesn't make the WC

Hagz · 13-08-2015 1:05am

Mick Kearney?

bessiem8 · 13-08-2015 1:07am

Hagz wrote: »

Mick Kearney?

injured til octoberish

bessiem8 · 13-08-2015 1:08am

RichieRich89 wrote: »

1. Byrne
2. Dundon (better thrower than Byrne)
3. Furlong
4. Moloney (would probably complement McCarthy better than Denton would)
5. McCarthy
6. McLaughlin/Ryan
7. Leavy/van der Flier
8. Conan
9. McGrath
10. Marsh
11. McFadden
12. Te'o
13. Reid
14. Kearney
15. Nacewa

16. Byrne
17. Dooley
18. Burke-Flynn (Hagan's better, but we need to develop another TH option)
19. Denton
20. *one of the flankers who doesn't start
21. McCarthy
22. Byrne (Crosbie if Byrne isn't back from injury)
23. Kelleher

I wouldn't pick any NIQs over guys who just missed the WC squad (Kirchner over Kearney, say), because they need every chance to showcase what they've got in case there are injuries in the 31

Byrne isnt injured

sydthebeat · 13-08-2015 7:15am

How is Thornbury looking? With Douglas gone will we get to see a bit of him from the bench this year?

dregin · 13-08-2015 8:37am

molloyjh wrote: »

Yep, my take:

Byrne Byrne Furlong
Denton McCarthy
McLaughlin Conan Ryan

McGrath Marsh
Reid Te'o
D Kearney Nacewa McFadden

Dundon, Hagan, RBF, Thornbury, VDF/Leavy, Hoffman, Byrne, Kirchner/Fanning

All that assumes Isa is back up to speed. If not he goes to the bench and Kirchner or D Kearney start at FB. If Dave does then Fanj goes to the wing.

As much as I love him, I think Isa with the responsibility at fullback is risky business for his first few games back.

vienne86 · 13-08-2015 8:42am

dregin wrote: »

As much as I love him, I think Isa with the responsibility at fullback is risky business for his first few games back.

I'm dyinng to see Isa back again in the RDS, but do not have overly high hopes for him. Having him in the squad during the RWC is the big plus for me.

Clearlier · 13-08-2015 8:43am

dregin wrote: »

As much as I love him, I think Isa with the responsibility at fullback is risky business for his first few games back.

Surely the point of the pre-season matches is to address things like this?

total former · 13-08-2015 8:48am

Clearlier wrote: »

Surely the point of the pre-season matches is to address things like this?

Definitely. Throw him in against Ulster, see how he gets on.

molloyjh · 13-08-2015 9:32am

dregin wrote: »

As much as I love him, I think Isa with the responsibility at fullback is risky business for his first few games back.

It's certainly a risk, but I'm going to remain positive. For a change!

bessiem8 · 13-08-2015 9:44am

sydthebeat wrote: »

How is Thornbury looking? With Douglas gone will we get to see a bit of him from the bench this year?

still physically maturing and filling out, as he is still only 21.

i'd be hopeful he'd get some time off the bench this year and hopefully keep progressing.. more of a project ala Dave Foley/Devin Toner.

Eponymous · 13-08-2015 3:08pm

molloyjh wrote: »

It's certainly a risk, but I'm going to remain positive. For a change!

I'll believe that when I see it. (actually I won't see it, I'm away for the first game, but I'll ask the Pit to observe you closely.)

molloyjh · 13-08-2015 3:16pm

Eponymous wrote: »

I'll believe that when I see it. (actually I won't see it, I'm away for the first game, but I'll ask the Pit to observe you closely.)

Ha, the wife wanted me to go away on holidays for the first game too. I took one look at her and told her I wasn't missing Isas return. He better feckin' play that day now!

The Rape of Lucretia · 13-08-2015 5:42pm

molloyjh wrote: »

Ha, the wife wanted me to go away on holidays for the first game too. I took one look at her and told her I wasn't missing Isas return. He better feckin' play that day now!

Isa may be a good looking guy to some. Whatever. But turning her down for a bloke ?

Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VI: End of the MOC [Revenge of the STH]

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