Liverpool FC News/Gossip/Rumours Summer '15

klose · 12-08-2015 06:32PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Enrique gets plenty of slagging. However, he's had a better LFC career than his replacement Moreno!

Think people slag him more because of his lifestyle and the fact he's happy to collect a wage doing nothing, if Moreno was told he has no future here he would no doubt leave soon after.

mikeym · 12-08-2015 06:41PM

Put Enrique on the transfer list.

I cant see him breaking into the team he was poor/injured last year.

Its great to see Gomez playing last Sunday and Rodgers should be giving more opportunities to the younger players that want to impress.

~Rebel~ · 12-08-2015 06:42PM

klose wrote: »

Think people slag him more because of his lifestyle and the fact he's happy to collect a wage doing nothing, if Moreno was told he has no future here he would no doubt leave soon after.

To be honest, I get the impression that its more to do with the fist half of that statement. That he's visibly happy. We always see him enjoying life and being happy. How dare he be happy when he's not in the team!

But - I've never heard anything about him missing training. I've never heard that he refused to play. I've never heard that he didn't take his recovery seriously.

As far as i'm aware, he worked hard to get back from his injuries, and has never been found lacking in training. The only thing he hasn't done that others have is play games.

And again, I don't expect a fella to literally up sticks and move to a new city and take a pay cut based on being out of the lineup. If the right option isn't there for your life, why move? Moreno might well leave if in the same position - but he's 23, with a full career ahead of him, and would get a similar deal elsewhere. Enrique is 29 and has just come back from a serious injury. Obviously his prospects are less bright. He's got a contract and is living up to his end of it 100%

12-08-2015 06:44PM

klose wrote: »

Think people slag him more because of his lifestyle and the fact he's happy to collect a wage doing nothing, if Moreno was told he has no future here he would no doubt leave soon after.

On the pitch,Enrique of a few years ago was better than Moreno last season.

Saying that I'd hate if he went as one season isn't enough as in the very odd game he did show some talent

Agent Coulson · 12-08-2015 06:48PM

The lad posts pictures on Twitter and Instagram having a laugh with mates playing FIFA etc so that means he is happy to collect a wage by doing nothing.

So he isn't allowed to have a personal life now outside of football to have the craic with his mates. Maybe he should go to casinos and gamble his money away instead and be a proper British football "Lad"

The guy has been injured for 2 seasons and will have been following the club doctors orders on how to recover from his injures.

These injures came playing for the club should we transfer list every player who gets injured now.

Agent Coulson · 12-08-2015 06:58PM

Happy Birthday Mario.

https://instagram.com/p/6QuXoSrj2r/

Kerrigooney · 12-08-2015 07:51PM

joe123 wrote: »

So complaining for the sake of complaining....seems about right with this place.

Is this aimed at me?

Hoki · 12-08-2015 08:28PM

mikeym wrote: »

Put Enrique on the transfer list.

I cant see him breaking into the team he was poor/injured last year.

Its great to see Gomez playing last Sunday and Rodgers should be giving more opportunities to the younger players that want to impress.

Is there still such a thing as a transfer list I wonder - a big A3 sheet with all available players on it! I'll have one of them & one of them.

In other news - step your game up people, I actually had to go to page 2 to find this thread.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 12-08-2015 08:39PM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

He's kinda like Bighead in a way and I salute him for but I reserve the right to an Enrique* on the situation.

*a complete 360

A complete 360 would involve continuing going the same way.

A 180 would be a turn in the opposite direction

/pedant:p

You're having a Dickerty, Owayn...

corwill · 12-08-2015 08:39PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

On the pitch,Enrique of a few years ago was better than Moreno last season.

Saying that I'd hate if he went as one season isn't enough as in the very odd game he did show some talent

Moreno often had a look on his face last season that said "just how much of this effing pitch am I actually expected to cover all by myself?" Perfectly understandable with Lance-Corporal Panic-Attack not coming over from centre back, and little or no help from midfield unless Lucas was playing, yet also expected to provide attacking width.

I judge last year's newbies less harshly than most, last season was a dysfunctional write off from top to bottom that was very difficult for individual players to do much about on their own.

Rodgers seemed to be in Downfall mode for most of the season, having lost all faith in his coaches. That's his own fault, he was clearly understaffed from the start. Pascoe seems to have been a "yes, boss" faithful servant type without a great deal of guile, with Marsh a good local lad for handing out bibs and positioning cones.

Then you had Suarez gone, Sturridge crocked, Mario skipping training, Stevie in extended mourning for his pace and his career, and wee Raheem and Aidy wreaking havoc (ref. Jerome Sinclair's comments about his own contract situation). Place was a flipping basket case.

Don't anyone go ask me to justify any of the above tonight, I'm on the sauce and two scoops shy of cacking the strides, but happy to pick it up again on, say... Friday.

Francie Barrett · 12-08-2015 09:20PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/12/jose-enrique-liverpool-alienated-balotelli-borini

“I’m in a difficult position,” Enrique said. “The club have alienated Balotelli, Borini and me. I have a year left on my contract and I imagine the club will want to sell, but I still want to stay and fight as I always have. I will not give up. I know from experience that football changes from day to night. Plus Brendan can't manage a squad, only wants 11 , rest can go to hell”

I had a very good option to return to Spain, but [it] is complicated because the economy is very different from what exists here. The only teams that can deal with what is paid in England are Real Madrid and Barcelona, so I would love to stay here until my legs stop me.

In other words - I am not going anywhere.

12-08-2015 09:37PM

He's dead right. Stick it out.

T-K-O · 12-08-2015 09:40PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The lad posts pictures on Twitter and Instagram having a laugh with mates playing FIFA etc so that means he is happy to collect a wage by doing nothing.

So he isn't allowed to have a personal life now outside of football to have the craic with his mates. Maybe he should go to casinos and gamble his money away instead and be a proper British football "Lad"

The guy has been injured for 2 seasons and will have been following the club doctors orders on how to recover from his injures.

These injures came playing for the club should we transfer list every player who gets injured now.

Common sense at last .

rob316 · 12-08-2015 09:50PM

If Brendan wants to unite the fanbase he needs to throw our club doctor under a bus and replace with this beauty. This would be a signing we could all get behind.

Mind you Rodgers quite fancies himself so I doubt he would let someone upstage him on his backroom staff.

Agent Coulson · 12-08-2015 10:11PM

Mario to Leicester could be on.

mikeym · 12-08-2015 10:17PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Mario to Leicester could be on.

Loan move or Transfer?

Allyall · 12-08-2015 10:21PM

Thought this was good. Every PL manager in their playing days

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMO9qlTUAAAMrdZ.jpg

Agent Coulson · 12-08-2015 10:24PM

mikeym wrote: »

Loan move or Transfer?

No idea.

The odds on Mario Balotelli joining fellow Italian Claudio Ranieri at Leicester City have slashed after the striker was spotted at the Foxes’ Belvoir Drive training ground yesterday.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/transfer-window/liverpools-jose-enrique-feels-alienated-and-mario-balotelli-could-join-premier-league-rival-31447054.html

T-K-O · 12-08-2015 10:32PM

The head on Rodgers, looks like LFC was meant to be

Moist Bread · 12-08-2015 10:36PM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

He's kinda like Bighead in a way and I salute him for but I reserve the right to an Enrique* on the situation.

*a complete 360

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiCF1QdyxhM

Harry Palmr · 12-08-2015 10:38PM

Allyall wrote: »

Thought this was good. Every PL manager in their playing days

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMO9qlTUAAAMrdZ.jpg

Dick Advocaat looks like he was playing between the wars and someone hand coloured the picture.

Knex* · 12-08-2015 10:45PM

The Kop back in the day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7jcB_v5inc

The reporter is hilarious.

5starpool · 12-08-2015 10:53PM

Allyall wrote: »

Thought this was good. Every PL manager in their playing days

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMO9qlTUAAAMrdZ.jpg

Rodgers name spelled incorrectly, and Mark Hughes first name is actually Leslie?

Mr Alan · 12-08-2015 10:53PM

Whatever about people's general feelings on manager, players, club set up, etc....it does appear the the situation with Balotelli, Borini, Lucas and Enrique is being handled very very poorly. I can't recall seeing this kind of public 'freezing out' of multiple players from a top club before.

It's even more bizarre when we consider the calibre of Lucas & Enrique and that Borini & Balotelli were both brought to the club under Rodgers stewardship.

K-9 · 12-08-2015 11:01PM

Sometimes things don't work out as planned. You wouldn't remember Riera, Benny, players like that.

We never had 6 or 7 strikers at the club in my memory either.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 12-08-2015 11:01PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Whatever about people's general feelings on manager, players, club set up, etc....it does appear the the situation with Balotelli, Borini, Lucas and Enrique is being handled very very poorly. I can't recall seeing this kind of public 'freezing out' of multiple players from a top club before.

It's even more bizarre when we consider the former calibre of Lucas & Enrique and that Borini & Balotelli were both brought to the club under Rodgers stewardship.

FYP

SlickRic · 12-08-2015 11:08PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Whatever about people's general feelings on manager, players, club set up, etc....it does appear the the situation with Balotelli, Borini, Lucas and Enrique is being handled very very poorly. I can't recall seeing this kind of public 'freezing out' of multiple players from a top club before.

It's even more bizarre when we consider the calibre of Lucas & Enrique and that Borini & Balotelli were both brought to the club under Rodgers stewardship.

Lucas hasn't been 'frozen out'. He's just not first choice. He played a decent bit last season. Rodgers likes his midfielders to be able to multitask. I personally think Lucas should be kept as a specialist DM, but just because Rodgers doesn't think he's first choice doesn't mean he's frozen out. 'Frozen out' is not the same as 'doesn't rate that highly'.

Who says Enrique has been frozen out? Apart from Enrique himself, who can't get himself fit, and seems happy to not play rather than go elsewhere?

Mario wasn't played in the optimum system to harness his talents, but frozen out he wasn't.

Borini I'll give you, kind of. Weird transfer, but he was on the fringes when fit, until he got told he was surplus to requirements, then stayed. He was told he probably wouldn't play, but stuck around anyway. You could say he was 'frozen out', at a push, but he was all but told he wouldn't play if he stayed. As we all know, he's not good enough.

klose · 12-08-2015 11:14PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Whatever about people's general feelings on manager, players, club set up, etc....it does appear the the situation with Balotelli, Borini, Lucas and Enrique is being handled very very poorly. I can't recall seeing this kind of public 'freezing out' of multiple players from a top club before.

It's even more bizarre when we consider the calibre of Lucas & Enrique and that Borini & Balotelli were both brought to the club under Rodgers stewardship.

The club is a buisness, im sure fsg look at our third choice left back on 65k(or whatever hes on) a week and tell rodgers to nudge him out the door which im sure he is happy to comply with. Likewise balo and borini, on big wages and way down in the pecking order. Im not sure why you include lucas, he is still part of the squad but has been told he wont be a first choice player this season which is different to the 3 other lads.
They are getting paid as per normal and have been told they are not needed anymore and that they would preferably move on, i dont see how this is being handled "very very poorly". Enrique coming out publicly saying the club is alienating players is the one going about things arse ways.

Harry Palmr · 12-08-2015 11:15PM

I can't believe the next match thread can't be started until late on Saturday.....:(

When is the EL group stage draw? Answer - the 28th, the 28th :mad:

No transfer activity.

Its as if time is standing still.

K-9 · 12-08-2015 11:16PM

Is there long left in Borini and Enrique's contracts?

Jovanovic and a couple of others came to an agreement to settle up the contracts. Think he was on huge wages too. It can be done. Some players prefer to play and prove themselves.

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