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DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread
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Thanks so much for the replies lads, I really do appreciate you taking the time to help.
Up until Monday, I had full and complete trust in my trainer, which is why I hadn't even looked that far ahead in my plan. I didn't want to overwhelm myself with too much too soon and was working on the "one week at a time" approach. I guess I just had a freak out when I realised my miles weren't building the same as others but I'm reassured now and faith is fully restored. Stick with the plan, there's a reason I'm not going with a generic plan so I just need to keep that in mind.
Positive thoughts only from here on in
From now on, I'm going to try run as many of my runs as possible early in the morning (where normal life allows). I did this yesterday and Monday and found my appetite was back at normal levels with 3 meals and a snack had both days. I had said before that I was going to do this, and didn't, so early to bed for me from now on and out the gap by 6am 0 -
Just a quick question, anybody find their toenails on big toes are sore from long runs?
Have finally found the perfect pair of runners, all traces of previous niggles throughout body are gone and my toenails are sore!!! Just to add that the runners are not too small but they do have a supportive toebox area (as opposed to a roomy toebox) Any advice?
I did last year when I was training for the half, so longest run was 12 miles I think, they felt bruised quite a lot. I changed runners before my next half and I've never had toenail issues since that.
I know that it's one thing that I've been told over and over since I started running longer distances "tonenails are overrated, you don't really need them anyway"
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Hehe no need...his timeSorry, didn't explain properly, was supposed to do the 3 x 2k, but at the end of the first 2k segment I did a Forest Gump on it and kept running for another 3k to give me a nice 5k burn.. ☺️
No permission to change Master, I shall flagellate myself this evening as punishment 😬
Strides aren't part of my program, but might be an idea to integrate them into one of the midweek runs...
My only thought was that the 2ks wpuld have had a specific purpose within your programme. Each session draws from the last one and has an eye on the next one. A properly structured training programme is like a chain of links, each linking onwards and keeping the whole structure stable and strong. The danger here, by arbitrarily inserting a last minute change of mind, is that you insert a clunky or weak link. Does that make sense?
Just a quick question, anybody find their toenails on big toes are sore from long runs?
Have finally found the perfect pair of runners, all traces of previous niggles throughout body are gone and my toenails are sore!!! Just to add that the runners are not too small but they do have a supportive toebox area (as opposed to a roomy toebox) Any advice?
Have a look here FeenaM. Last years novices had the same prob (and the year brfore and the year before...:) ) As AMK says, it is a badge of honour really In my case, I needed to go up a size in shoe. I keep one pair of shoes for anything up to 6-8 miles and a bigger pair for anything over 9-10 miles. Your foot expands when running and I needed more room for longer runs. Everyone is different though. Some runners may unconsciously claw with your toes in a bigger shoe so that solution is not for everyone.
Hi JMSE, have a look at my comment to JacEim here. I would advise the same to you. A training plan will have a specific purpose for each run and session, each complementing the other and joining together to bring you on in purposeful increments. Have a think anyway. We'd be more than happy to help you out with fine tuning a specific plan for you for the next three months as a generic plan seems difficult with your work commitments.Thanks for all the input there everyone, on the 10mile run almost a pb thing, well spotted, that pb was my only 10 mile race and so hopefully could be bettered.
Heres how I'm training, I check the clock on the wall and go out and do a rough distance, if I feel slow I run slow (kind of), if I feel energetic I push. I come home, check the time, later I'll use google maps to measure the distance and arrive at specifics. Also that run wasnt an LSR, it was done after a rest day so I thought I should be getting some miles in and also a bit faster.
Maybe I wont go with a plan, I dont know, I'm definitely going to take Dubgals advice on a 4th day. My plan until then so is to keep looking at plans, procrastinate like a mad thing, do the LSR, and build the miles up over the other 3 days to higher than the LSR but at the speeds you guys are recommending. Am just in from a shift that started at midday Tues and ended 0340 Weds so my window for running Weds is probably now shut.
Thanks all.
Sound much healthier!We get €10 off with work in this place and then I claim €40 back from VHI so it only cost me a fiver. I went for an hours sports massage before and paid €50 but she wasn't a physio so couldn't claim back on this. I'd go back to her if I was paying for the full thing myself. I think €55/€95 are mental prices for half/full hour sessions!
Ah good there on all fronts. As regards the mileage tracker, I'm in two minds about its value. If I could get ye all to look on it as motivation only, I would. I'm not keen on the part that encourages mileage envy. As has been pointed out, your plan is specifically for you and will work just fine...specifically for youDeleted User wrote: »Thanks so much for the replies lads, I really do appreciate you taking the time to help.
Up until Monday, I had full and complete trust in my trainer, which is why I hadn't even looked that far ahead in my plan. I didn't want to overwhelm myself with too much too soon and was working on the "one week at a time" approach. I guess I just had a freak out when I realised my miles weren't building the same as others but I'm reassured now and faith is fully restored. Stick with the plan, there's a reason I'm not going with a generic plan so I just need to keep that in mind.
Positive thoughts only from here on in
From now on, I'm going to try run as many of my runs as possible early in the morning (where normal life allows). I did this yesterday and Monday and found my appetite was back at normal levels with 3 meals and a snack had both days. I had said before that I was going to do this, and didn't, so early to bed for me from now on and out the gap by 6am
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Just finished my 8 mile session today (*drops mic*)
It went really well. I was out at about 6:45 which is very early for me, but I had gotten up early and got breakfast.
1 11:20 /mi
2 10:01 /mi
3 10:02 /mi
4 9:43 /mi
5 9:52 /mi
6 9:42 /mi
7 9:17 /mi
8 10:16 /mi
I really felt good after it. I went a bit faster than PMP (10:18) but it's my one fast session so I don't feel too bad. I hit my old 5k race pace as one stage around mile 6 and felt really good, which is something that I couldn't have done before. I can't wait to finish this training and see my old PBs tumble 0 -
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Did 10km this am - still working on slowing down. Averaged 5:55/km, which is the closest I've gotten to the 6min/km lsr pace I should be doing. I'm confident I can hit the 6min/km on my 12 mile/20km lsr this w/e.
On the topic of shoe sizes... last week, I had my first ever gait analysis / fitting in Amphibian King. The fitter recommended I go up a full size (from 9.5 to 10.5). Initially, they felt a little bit clunky and I stubbed my toe a few times, but now that I'm used to them, I have to say they're really comfy on long runs.
Agree with Denis's point about the looping of the laces (I think it's called the "marathon knot"). I never did that before, but the Amphibian King fitter used that method & I've been doing it ever since.
Here's a good video showing how to do it.
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Oh yeh, when I changed to the newer shoes it was after a gait analysis in Ambhibian King - I was in the right shoe for my foot but not for the distances. They laced my shoes up as above and that's what I've done ever since! I'm also in a size 6 where I'd normally be a 5-5.5.
Still have all my toenails. I do keep them as short as I possibly can too.
Ah black toenails, swinging mickys, body parts chaffing.
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Deleted User wrote: »Oh yeh, when I changed to the newer shoes it was after a gait analysis in Ambhibian King - I was in the right shoe for my foot but not for the distances. They laced my shoes up as above and that's what I've done ever since! I'm also in a size 6 where I'd normally be a 5-5.5.
Still have all my toenails. I do keep them as short as I possibly can too.
Ah black toenails, swinging mickys, body parts chaffing.
Running is so damn sexy
My feet grew half a size in Amphibian King too. When I started running in Asics Nimbus I was a 6.5, after a few years I moved to Asics Kayano size 7 and now I'm Saucony Ride size 7.5.
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Thanks for the info re toenails
I think my last few pairs of runners were too loose/big and that was causing me to claw with my foot for grip so now that my runners give nice all over support, my toes aren't used to it. I'll try the lace thing and if that doesn't work I'll just have to be a slightly bigger pair for the longer runs. Those of you that had it before though, is it the sort of thing that your toes just toughen up to :eek: or do you reckon it would be ongoing if I don't find the root of the cause?0 -
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Ah black toenails, swinging mickys, body parts chaffing.
Running is so damn sexy
And that's without taking the smell after an LSR into account! 0 -
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