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Liverpool FC News/Gossip/Rumours Summer '15

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  • #5282
    Pyjamarama
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭Pyjamarama


    Every manager falls out with players. They're usually players who have fallen out of favour with him though. When regular first teamers turn their back on him then I'll worry. Lucas just isn't dynamic enough for Rodgers and that's fair enough imo. If we fail this season he'll lose his job but we didn't have an out and out cdm playing regularly when we nearly won the league. That kind of team is the one he's trying to recreate. If it can work without Luis is the question that will determine his future.


  • #5283
    JohnDaniels
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭JohnDaniels


    K-9 wrote: »
    Presumably so who knows.

    Least the thread will have some gossip to take as gospel for Meltdown Monday.

    Joyce is the most reliable journalist going by a distance for Liverpool news these days.


  • #5284
    whatawaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    The Lucas "falling out" would have been really interesting coupled with a Stoke win today. That would have lit up the thread.

    Hopefully it's nothing, but if it's something let's hope we get in another midfielder


  • #5285
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JohnDaniels wrote: »
    Joyce is the most reliable journalist going by a distance for Liverpool news these days.

    Ok, it's clear Rodgers has fallen out with Lucas, it's all Rodger's fault, Lucas will leave all because of Rodgers.

    On a more serious note who would prefer Lucas, Milner & Hendo over Can Milner & Hendo?

    Because if Lucas isn't buying into the squad mentality and throws a hissy fit as he's a non starter than he can f*ck off imo.


  • #5286
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I love the black jersey.


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  • #5287
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    JohnDaniels wrote: »
    Joyce is the most reliable journalist going by a distance for Liverpool news these days.

    There's going to be a good few players not making the bench this season. I know a few players are not used to that, that was because of lack of squad depth.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #5288
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Miss the days when Coutinho used to hit the corner flag with his shots.


  • #5289
    whatawaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Miss the days when Coutinho used to hit the corner flag with his shots.

    You mean the first half


  • #5290
    Osmosis Jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,966 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    "If only he could shoot he'd be a great player."


  • #5291
    JohnDaniels
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭JohnDaniels


    K-9 wrote: »
    There's going to be a good few players not making the bench this season. I know a few players are not used to that, that was because of lack of squad depth.

    The falling out was before he was left out.

    Paul Joyce: "Lucas left out of the squad entirely following a fall-out which presumably now promotes the prospect of a parting. He would need replacing."


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  • #5292
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Augeo wrote: »
    ......... buying into the squad mentality...........
    K-9 wrote: »
    There's going to be a good few players not making the bench this season. I know a few players are not used to that, that was because of lack of squad depth.

    Indeed, they all need to buy into it, for the club


  • #5293
    MightyMandarin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    Pyjamarama wrote: »
    Every manager falls out with players. They're usually players who have fallen out of favour with him though. When regular first teamers turn their back on him then I'll worry. Lucas just isn't dynamic enough for Rodgers and that's fair enough imo. If we fail this season he'll lose his job but we didn't have an out and out cdm playing regularly when we nearly won the league. That kind of team is the one he's trying to recreate. If it can work without Luis is the question that will determine his future.

    Don't see the point of this. Every title-winning side has a proper destroyer in midfield, and in 13/14, most of the reason we didn't win was down to our **** defence, which needed a DM to sit in front of the back 4. Selling Lucas without replacing him adequately would be a disaster and ruin all the good work of this window.


  • #5294
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JohnDaniels wrote: »
    The falling out was before he was left out......

    Lucas - "Am I playing the weekend boss?"

    Rodgers - "No, you mightn't be on the bench either"

    Falling out


  • #5295
    JohnDaniels
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭JohnDaniels


    Augeo wrote: »
    Lucas - "Am I playing the weekend boss?"

    Rodgers - "No, you mightn't be on the bench either"

    Falling out

    I don't think you understand words.


  • #5296
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Augeo wrote: »
    Lucas - "Am I playing the weekend boss?"

    Rodgers - "No, you mightn't be on the bench either"

    Falling out

    So this speculation on the situation is more substantive?


  • #5297
    Knex*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    I like Lucas, he seems like a genuinely great fella, but I think his value gets overstated a little bit nowadays, and I honestly wouldn't be too upset if he was moved on.

    I would think that a proper DM would be needed if he is moved on, but as Osmosis said, if Rodgers doesn't want to play with one, then there's probably no point.


  • #5298
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    the-third-man_harry-lime-first-view.jpg


  • #5299
    Pyjamarama
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭Pyjamarama


    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    Don't see the point of this. Every title-winning side has a proper destroyer in midfield, and in 13/14, most of the reason we didn't win was down to our **** defence, which needed a DM to sit in front of the back 4. Selling Lucas without replacing him adequately would be a disaster and ruin all the good work of this window.

    Playing a cdm destroyer would have taken some of the creativity away from the team and tbh our defense didn't really cost us the league, Man city being a superb side did. It's not a coincidence that team that scores the most goals usually wins the league not the team that concedes the least. United won plenty of trophies with Carrick at the base of their midfield and he's far from a destroyer. He's great at reading the game and setting a tempo. Whether you agree or not the fact is that it's clear it's not how our manager wants to set up. Accept it and let him succeed or fail on his own terms. I don't think the loss of Lucas will be a barrier that Rodgers potential replacement (should he fail) will struggle to overcome.


  • #5300
    billymitchell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,996 ✭✭✭✭billymitchell


    One speculative tweet and the place is in meltdown!


  • #5301
    Charlie19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,982 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    Leighton Baines out for 3 months and will miss the first derby.


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  • #5302
    gafferino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    billymitchell wrote: »
    One speculative tweet and the place is in meltdown!

    The place isn't in meltdown. Joyce is usually very reliable so it's worth paying attention to.

    This is a not good. Lucas should be kept. The DM position has been a problem for years now with no direct replacement for Lucas in the squad in times of injury/bad form/competition. Now if he goes we will need to bring someone in to replace him instead of, as many hoped including myself, bringing in competition for him.


  • #5303
    Knex*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Joe Gomez for 3.5m. If we sold him in the morning we'd get treble that already.


  • #5304
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Knex. wrote: »
    Joe Gomez for 3.5m. If we sold him in the morning we'd get treble that already.

    Just wait till next summer - City will make a 20m offer. Man City that is.


  • #5305
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    I could see these links for illaremendi being true if Lucas was to leave.


  • #5306
    MightyMandarin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    Pyjamarama wrote: »
    Playing a cdm destroyer would have taken some of the creativity away from the team and tbh our defense didn't really cost us the league, Man city being a superb side did. It's not a coincidence that team that scores the most goals usually wins the league not the team that concedes the least. United won plenty of trophies with Carrick at the base of their midfield and he's far from a destroyer. He's great at reading the game and setting a tempo. Whether you agree or not the fact is that it's clear it's not how our manager wants to set up. Accept it and let him succeed or fail on his own terms. I don't think the loss of Lucas will be a barrier that Rodgers potential replacement (should he fail) will struggle to overcome.

    No, our defence most definitely cost us the league. Palace away, we're 3-0 up, and our defence f*ck it up. It happened several other times that season and luckily our attack bailed them out time and time again until it inevitably ended in failure.

    We scored 1goal less than City that season, but conceded 13 more. It's easy to see where our season went wrong.

    United also had in Vidic and Ferdinand, 2 of the best CB's in the game. Skrtel and Sakho are decent, but nowhere near their level. I think the best example of a team we should aim to emulate it is Arsenal. Arsenal's biggest problem (aside from a top striker) is the fact they have no proper DM, and haven't had any physicality in midfield since Vieira. It's no wonder that for many, many years, Arsenal have won no major trophies, and consistently get bullied off the park by bigger teams. If we ever hope to be like Arsenal yet win stuff, we must get a proper DM. If not, BR has no hope of doing anything more than nearly winning the league under his reign.


  • #5307
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Knex. wrote: »
    Joe Gomez for 3.5m. If we sold him in the morning we'd get treble that already.

    Fair to say both our upgrades at fullback were the two best purchases of full backs during the transfer window.


  • #5308
    MightyMandarin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    gafferino wrote: »
    The place isn't in meltdown. Joyce is usually very reliable so it's worth paying attention to.

    This is a not good. Lucas should be kept. The DM position has been a problem for years now with no direct replacement for Lucas in the squad in times of injury/bad form/competition. Now if he goes we will need to bring someone in to replace him instead of, as many hoped including myself, bringing in competition for him.

    This. I was annoyed we didn't have any DM cover. Now we might not have a DM.

    It's times like this you're reminded that you support the most frustrating club in the world. This team has lots of potential, but without a solid midfield and adequate defense, we will have lots of 'nearly's' in the future.


  • #5309
    MightyMandarin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Fair to say both our upgrades at fullback were the two best purchases of full backs during the transfer window.

    Darmian looked very good yesterday to be fair.


  • #5310
    garra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭garra


    Linda Pizzuti Henry @Linda_Pizzuti
    Liverpool has done it! Starting the season with a win and a clean sheet! Great start, @LFC, keep it going #LFC


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  • #5311
    martyos121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,560 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    garra wrote: »
    Linda Pizzuti Henry @Linda_Pizzuti
    Liverpool has done it! Starting the season with a win and a clean sheet! Great start, @LFC, keep it going #LFC

    That's the tweet I've been waiting for all summer.

    She loves a clean sheet more than Brendan loves himself.


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