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DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭chrislad


    frash wrote: »
    Think that will be my pace on the big day too - we'll have to exchange race numbers so we recognise each other!

    Still gonna race the HM in Sept though.

    Sure! We will probably meet in the pub after anyways! Company is always good for keeping you going too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭hillsiderunner


    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=96464565&postcount=2492
    Hi hilly, any updates? Good call on bailing btw :)

    Not looking too great at this stage.... the foot is continuing to give trouble. Did 6miles including 5x650m on Tuesday and though it was *horrific* fitness-wise (first "session" in 8 weeks) the foot held up well till near the end. Was ok to do 5miles Wednesday but there was grumbling throughout the run and like you I skipped the strides at the end. And it was sore afterwards :( ... so I booked myself in with a physio for Friday lunchtime.

    The foot was not too bad walking around yesterday evening (without any ice) and this morning (after ice), so I actually went out and made a start on today's MLR. This wasn't for the purposes of "getting the miles in", I want to be sure that the foot does not calm too much before tomorrow's appointment :rolleyes: (rest and icing tends to calm it down). I want to have a bit of swelling to show tomorrow. Anyway I stayed close to base with the promise that I'd stop if it felt worse than during yesterday's run, and it did .... so a 2mile MLR.

    I had a full week of almost no running (2.5 miles) during the food poisoning, and I was not walking much either during that time, and the problem came back when I started running again ... so I expect this will take a while to sort out. Most likely no autumn marathon. I'll survive, main thing for me is to minimise the time out...

    Hoping that tomorrow will bring a more specific diagnosis, and a list of instructions of what to do and not do. I'd nearly be relieved to be told to take 2 weeks off as it'd settle things one way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    chrislad wrote: »
    2:15 or so would be my marathon pace.

    Are you sure you're a novice??
    That's less than a minute slower than the time that won the race last year.....:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Not looking too great at this stage.... the foot is continuing to give trouble. Did 6miles including 5x650m on Tuesday and though it was *horrific* fitness-wise (first "session" in 8 weeks) the foot held up well till near the end. Was ok to do 5miles Wednesday but there was grumbling throughout the run and like you I skipped the strides at the end. And it was sore afterwards :( ... so I booked myself in with a physio for Friday lunchtime.

    The foot was not too bad walking around yesterday evening (without any ice) and this morning (after ice), so I actually went out and made a start on today's MLR. This wasn't for the purposes of "getting the miles in", I want to be sure that the foot does not calm too much before tomorrow's appointment :rolleyes: (rest and icing tends to calm it down). I want to have a bit of swelling to show tomorrow. Anyway I stayed close to base with the promise that I'd stop if it felt worse than during yesterday's run, and it did .... so a 2mile MLR.

    I had a full week of almost no running (2.5 miles) during the food poisoning, and I was not walking much either during that time, and the problem came back when I started running again ... so I expect this will take a while to sort out. Most likely no autumn marathon. I'll survive, main thing for me is to minimise the time out...

    Hoping that tomorrow will bring a more specific diagnosis, and a list of instructions of what to do and not do. I'd nearly be relieved to be told to take 2 weeks off as it'd settle things one way.

    :( sorry to hear that, Hillside. I noticed the 5 and 6M entries in the spreadsheet and had assumed you were doing fine..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    diego_b wrote: »
    If I'm in Dublin for that I was gonna suggest the last 20miles of the DCM route if a group was meeting up!

    Just checked the route, it would mean starting at Castleknock Gate. Good plan. Let's check closer to the time - but I'd be up for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭chrislad


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    Are you sure you're a novice??
    That's less than a minute slower than the time that won the race last year.....:pac:

    I meant 2.15 per mile. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    PJD wrote: »
    Saturday 8th August LSR - Phoenix Park

    Just a to confirm that Saturday's LSR is going ahead and will be in line with the provisional plans which were posted previously.

    LSR- This is not a race! This is a friendly meet up with other novices and will be treated as our long slow run for the weekend. No one will be left behind.

    Location- We are meeting in the Phoenix Park in the car park at the Visitor Centre. It is well signposted and is accessed from the road at the Phoenix monument. It is also known as Ashtown Castle and has a cafe for post run tea and scones. Note this is the cafe and carpark in the north west of the park not the tea rooms beside the zoo. Maps are available on line.

    Pace- DG has covered this and will depend on who turns up on the day, but as stated, this is an LSR day.

    Route- To get the miles in the route will largely follow the perimeter and Chesterfield Avenue area of the park. This will give some familiarity for the Frank Duffy, Half marathon and Full marathon.

    Timing- We will meet at 9.30 and head off by 9.45 sharp. As there will be various groups and various speeds we will try to meet up at approximately the same time to have tea at the cafe. If you have family meeting with you, I would guess the rv will be around mid day.

    Kit and Extras- This will be a long run so please bring your usual comforts including water and gels etc. You will be expected to be self sufficient in this respect. The weather looks promising at present, but as we are going for tea you should bring a warm top to change into on completion of the run. At present, the fairly reliable yr.no forcast has a temperature range of 11 degrees heating up to 18 degrees, so pick your clothes carefully. You may wish to bring extra water and food which can be left in the cars. Please bring a few euro for your tea/coffee etc. Foam rollers are optional!

    Yet to be decided- On arrival and depending on numbers, we could drive out and hide a water cache on the route. This can be arranged on the day and should take no more than 10 minutes if needed. I defer to the mentors for their thoughts on this.

    I think that is most areas covered. Please feel free to add any ideas. Also feel free to bring your non boardsie running pals. We can recruit them on the day!

    Thanks for organising P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Kennyg71


    Not sure if will make Saturday, committed to
    Doing LSR's with training partner on Sunday Mornings
    so wouldn't want to leave in lurch. Saturday not good
    for them.
    Bit undisaplined with exercises while on hols last week
    So bit sore this week.
    Hillside hope Physio goes well,
    my Physio did me up excerise routine, injury spacific
    takes about40 mins a day,once I keep on top of it
    makes lot easier,Hope all goes well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭PJD


    Kennyg71 wrote: »
    Not sure if will make Saturday, committed to
    Doing LSR's with training partner on Sunday Mornings
    so wouldn't want to leave in lurch. Saturday not good
    for them.
    Bit undisaplined with exercises while on hols last week
    So bit sore this week.
    Hillside hope Physio goes well,
    my Physio did me up excerise routine, injury spacific
    takes about40 mins a day,once I keep on top of it
    makes lot easier,Hope all goes well.

    Sure come along and do a short run at 11. Meet at 12 for tea and chat! Simples!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    PJD wrote: »
    Saturday 8th August LSR - Phoenix Park



    Yet to be decided- On arrival and depending on numbers, we could drive out and hide a water cache on the route. This can be arranged on the day and should take no more than 10 minutes if needed. I defer to the mentors for their thoughts on this.

    Good stuff on organising.
    When we did these runs in past years we normally just looped back by the cars at halfway to grab a drink.

    Good luck with it, hopefully catch up for one of these in future.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Kennyg71


    PJD wrote: »
    Sure come along and do a short run at 11. Meet at 12 for tea and chat! Simples!
    Will come for last few miles so, not that familiar with
    Park, let's know loop once decided.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    I can't make this Saturday I'm afraid. Enjoy.
    diego_b wrote: »
    If I'm in Dublin for that I was gonna suggest the last 20miles of the DCM route if a group was meeting up!
    I'd be up for that, although it'd be a point to point, so might be logistically difficult.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭diego_b


    For the 20 miler ...could make it easier and go for a 9:45 start at the Castleknock gate given that not too many of us will get through there any quicker than that on the day. I'm using a water belt for the long runs so no need for loops back to my car. All going well will finish at Merrion Sq so should be plenty of public transport options then or else a few grab a taxi back to our cars in the park. Getting to the start is a challenge but hopefully doable!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Emsy 1


    So I bought the high 5 marathon pack in lidl at the weekend. I have never used gels before ( lots of other stuff in there too) and am thinking of trying them out on my 12 mile run on Saturday. At what stage should I take one or would I be better waiting for a longer run.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Emsy 1 wrote: »
    So I bought the high 5 marathon pack in lidl at the weekend. I have never used gels before ( lots of other stuff in there too) and am thinking of trying them out on my 12 mile run on Saturday. At what stage should I take one or would I be better waiting for a longer run.?

    You might be as well to take your first gel on the 12 miler just to see if it agrees with your stomach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    Kennyg71 wrote: »
    Will come for last few miles so, not that familiar with
    Park, let's know loop once decided.

    Bring Mrs K with ya


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Good stuff on organising.
    When we did these runs in past years we normally just looped back by the cars at halfway to grab a drink.

    Good luck with it, hopefully catch up for one of these in future.

    There's a tree at the bottom of the visitors centre ave at the aras junction that we used to stash bottles/gels etc, they were never touched and it saves you having to go right back up to the car park (although the extra miles might come in handy!!) I can't make this one either after all, hope it goes well and enjoy :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Emsy 1


    Phoebas wrote: »
    You might be as well to take your first gel on the 12 miler just to see if it agrees with your stomach.

    Thats what I was thinking I may need to do loops in case of an emergency lol. Dying to try out my new water belt too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    Emsy 1 wrote: »
    So I bought the high 5 marathon pack in lidl at the weekend. I have never used gels before ( lots of other stuff in there too) and am thinking of trying them out on my 12 mile run on Saturday. At what stage should I take one or would I be better waiting for a longer run.?

    Emsy I was the same last week had 13 miles to do and never took gel before. Tried a few different things in prep for big day last Sunday. Tried a kinetica berry gel 1 and half hours into the run husbands advice in relation to timing of it (didn't need it but wanted to see how the stomach reacted) was fine. I also wore a belt with two small bottles (put small dash of Ribena in the water) on it and it was very comfortable so will continue to use that as I had the safety of having a zipped pouch on the belt carrying my gel,tissue and my emergency five euro !! Also got up at 7 had my porridge in prep for run at 9.30 - stomach fine during run. Had a berrocca boost with breakfast for extra energy. All in all it all worked well run went well. So will try again this week as standard for LSR. One thing that didn't work (or maybe worked too well !!!) was having coffee with my breakfast at 7. Too harsh on the stomach ! So that's gone from the list!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Emsy 1


    Mrs Mc wrote: »
    Emsy I was the same last week had 13 miles to do and never took gel before. Tried a few different things in prep for big day last Sunday. Tried a kinetica berry gel 1 and half hours into the run husbands advice in relation to timing of it (didn't need it but wanted to see how the stomach reacted) was fine. I also wore a belt with two small bottles (put small dash of Ribena in the water) on it and it was very comfortable so will continue to use that as I had the safety of having a zipped pouch on the belt carrying my gel,tissue and my emergency five euro !! Also got up at 7 had my porridge in prep for run at 9.30 - stomach fine during run. Had a berrocca boost with breakfast for extra energy. All in all it all worked well run went well. So will try again this week as standard for LSR. One thing that didn't work (or maybe worked too well !!!) was having coffee with my breakfast at 7. Too harsh on the stomach ! So that's gone from the list!!!

    Thanks Mrs Mac I will try one about an hour and a half in and see how it go's like u say it's just to see how my tummy reacts to one they look yuck.. my morning routine is very similar to yours I'll chance the coffee though 😀 the water belt I have sounds similar (lidl again ) did u drink much water with the gel ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    Emsy 1 wrote: »
    Thanks Mrs Mac I will try one about an hour and a half in and see how it go's like u say it's just to see how my tummy reacts to one they look yuck.. my morning routine is very similar to yours I'll chance the coffee though 😀 the water belt I have sounds similar (lidl again ) did u drink much water with the gel ?

    The previous weekend LSR was really warm drank both bottles tried to alternate each bottle so the weight was even .... Is that ridiculous ???? But last weekend the weather was cooler and rained for some time so only had half out of each .... Forgot to say also had a protein drink when I came in have tried that or chocolate yahoo milk after run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Kennyg71


    Mrs Mc wrote: »
    Bring Mrs K with ya

    Mrs K on kiddie duty, also has volunteered on Saturday.
    Happy Birthday, will treat u to scone on Saturday.

    might even bring a candle 😃


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    Kennyg71 wrote: »
    Mrs K on kiddie duty, also has volunteered on Saturday.
    Happy Birthday, will treat u to scone on Saturday.

    might even bring a candle ðŸ˜႒

    Deffo going so !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Firedance wrote: »
    There's a tree at the bottom of the visitors centre ave

    This is starting to sound like The Shawshank Redemption :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    This is starting to sound like The Shawshank Redemption :D

    'Remember red, hope is good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies' Very apt for 26.2 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    Saturday 8th August LSR - Phoenix Park

    Just a to confirm that Saturday's LSR is going ahead and will be in line with the provisional plans which were posted previously.

    LSR- This is not a race! This is a friendly meet up with other novices and will be treated as our long slow run for the weekend. No one will be left behind.

    Location- We are meeting in the Phoenix Park in the car park at the Visitor Centre. It is well signposted and is accessed from the road at the Phoenix monument. It is also known as Ashtown Castle and has a cafe for post run tea and scones. Note this is the cafe and carpark in the north west of the park not the tea rooms beside the zoo. Maps are available on line.

    Pace- DG has covered this and will depend on who turns up on the day, but as stated, this is an LSR day.

    Route- To get the miles in the route will largely follow the perimeter and Chesterfield Avenue area of the park. This will give some familiarity for the Frank Duffy, Half marathon and Full marathon.

    Timing- We will meet at 9.30 and head off by 9.45 sharp. As there will be various groups and various speeds we will try to meet up at approximately the same time to have tea at the cafe. If you have family meeting with you, I would guess the rv will be around mid day.

    Kit and Extras- This will be a long run so please bring your usual comforts including water and gels etc. You will be expected to be self sufficient in this respect. The weather looks promising at present, but as we are going for tea you should bring a warm top to change into on completion of the run. At present, the fairly reliable yr.no forcast has a temperature range of 11 degrees heating up to 18 degrees, so pick your clothes carefully. You may wish to bring extra water and food which can be left in the cars. Please bring a few euro for your tea/coffee etc. Foam rollers are optional!

    Yet to be decided- On arrival and depending on numbers, we could drive out and hide a water cache on the route. This can be arranged on the day and should take no more than 10 minutes if needed. I defer to the mentors for their thoughts on this.

    I think that is most areas covered. Please feel free to add any ideas. Also feel free to bring your non boardsie running pals. We can recruit them on the day!

    Name|12miles9/10/11m/mi|14miles 9/10/11m/mi
    Dubgal| where needed | where needed
    Neil... | |10m/mi
    Toulouse| 11m/mi |
    Singer| | 9m/mi |
    ZV Yoda| 9m/mi |
    Denis GUIDE | | 10m/mi
    Mrs Mc| | 11m/mi
    PJD | | 10m/mi |
    FeenaM| | 9/10m/mi


    Just bumping up these posts :) And thanks PJD, great post


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭HelenAnne


    Hello! This sounds lovely! Just another point, and not sure if this has changed in recent months, the last time I was in the visitors' centre cafe (which is lovely! Enjoy yourselves!) it didn't accept cards, so bring a bit of actual cash!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    HelenAnne wrote: »
    Hello! This sounds lovely! Just another point, and not sure if this has changed in recent months, the last time I was in the visitors' centre cafe (which is lovely! Enjoy yourselves!) it didn't accept cards, so bring a bit of actual cash!

    Care to join us for some/all of it tomorrow?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    LSR- This is not a race! This is a friendly meet up with other novices and will be treated as our long slow run for the weekend. No one will be left behind.

    I've never run with other people other than in races! I suppose I'll have to ease off on the dirty tricks (pretending to wear headphones and wandering across other runners, sudden stopping, tripping people up etc.).

    Looking forward to tomorrow anyway :) - that cafe is quite nice too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭KingMambo26


    HelenAnne wrote: »
    Hello! This sounds lovely! Just another point, and not sure if this has changed in recent months, the last time I was in the visitors' centre cafe (which is lovely! Enjoy yourselves!) it didn't accept cards, so bring a bit of actual cash!

    I went there a couple of weeks ago and they do accept cards now. Suppose it's to cater for the truckloads busloads of tourists pouring in.


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