UK graduate thrown out of gay club after "triggering" Blurred Lines is played

Kev W · 05-08-2015 01:27PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Pretty much, it's like a parent putting their kid on a school rugby team and then writing a letter to the school saying "Now now, there'll be no more of this dangerous "scrummage" business, and if you think there'll be any more mauling while my kid is on your team, think again! DO YOU WANT ME TO ENGAGE THE TWITTERATI TO F*CK YOU UP, YOU ASSHOLES?!"

So you consider getting verbally abused over a microphone to be standard behaviour for club staff?

ohnonotgmail · 05-08-2015 01:31PM

Kev W wrote: »

So you consider getting verbally abused over a microphone to be standard behaviour for club staff?

i think everybody would agree it was quite rude but they tried to turn it into a gender issue when it clearly wasnt.

Kev W · 05-08-2015 01:33PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i think everybody would agree it was quite rude but they tried to turn it into a gender issue when it clearly wasnt.

No they didn't. It got turned into a gender issue here but the main issue originally was the verbal abuse from the DJ. The gender pronoun issue was just the icing on the cake.

Wright · 05-08-2015 01:34PM

Into The Blue wrote: »

Can you see my posts?

Oh yes, clear as day, thank you.

05-08-2015 01:34PM

Kev W wrote: »

No they didn't. It got turned into a gender issue here but the main issue originally was the verbal abuse from the DJ. The gender pronoun issue was just the icing on the cake.

Have you read Georgia's tweets?

Deleted User wrote: »

She posted a conversation between herself and the club manager / promoter on her twitter

I can't link, but it's from the 4th of May.
@GeorgiaG92

There's 5/6 screenshots of their messages.
Read them, and figure it out yourself. Incredible stuff really.

The conversation is quite revealing.

KomradeBishop · 05-08-2015 01:34PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

As the OP, I can probably answer this. On Twitter I follow a Daily Telegraph columnist called Martin Daubney, who tweeted a link to this story earlier. I thought it was interesting and wanted to see what people thought about it. It definitely seems to be a real story - users here have linked to the complainant's Twitter and Facebook pages.

In the past few hours the story has been picked up by Yahoo and the Daily Mirror, and the complainant has said they have been interviewed by BBC Radio. It's an interesting story and clearly there's interest in the story and possible follow-up from the club/DJ.

I think the DM has retracted it, as the link they had is gone.

A for the twitter feed, pretty much as I expected, this guy has a hard-on for gender topics and bashing anything even remotely attributable to feminsm:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/martin-daubney/

smoking_kills · 05-08-2015 01:35PM

Kev W wrote: »

So you consider getting verbally abused over a microphone to be standard behaviour for club staff?

Do you consider telling the DJ not to play a song because it upsets you standard behavior for clubbers?

galljga1 · 05-08-2015 01:35PM

Kev W wrote: »

No they didn't. It got turned into a gender issue here but the main issue originally was the verbal abuse from the DJ. The gender pronoun issue was just the icing on the cake.

It was turned into a gender issue well before it arrived here by the two that were refused re-entry to the club.

Wright · 05-08-2015 01:37PM

Kev W wrote: »

So you consider getting verbally abused over a microphone to be standard behaviour for club staff?

With or without provocation? If you go up to a DJ and give out to him for something, absolutely I could see it. Know any choirboy DJ's who clock off early cause they got church in the morning?

Not justifying his behaviour, he could just as easily have said nothing, but there's actual messed up stuff happening in the world right now that we can be angry about.

BlimpyBoy · 05-08-2015 01:38PM

I just had a look through her recent Facebook history and now I think I have leprosy.

ohnonotgmail · 05-08-2015 01:38PM

Kev W wrote: »

No they didn't. It got turned into a gender issue here but the main issue originally was the verbal abuse from the DJ. The gender pronoun issue was just the icing on the cake.

the dj told them to f*ck off. Lets not go overboard. it was rude. so what. I dont go creating blog posts every time somebody tells me to f*ck off. i wouldnt have the time.

Kev W · 05-08-2015 01:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Have you read Georgia's tweets?

The conversation is quite revealing.

It's a conversation about a completely different incident, I don't see how it can reveal that much about this one.

ISIS are sound · 05-08-2015 01:39PM

How the hell can you be 'triggered' by a song anyway?

NachoBusiness · 05-08-2015 01:40PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

I don't doubt at all that they came across as obnoxious. Maybe they're both obnoxious people in general. But I still don't understand someone saying “**** off you silly bitch” over a microphone to a professed upset rape victim.

It's a popular song and expecting a DJ not to play it and being so rude as she did so, was silly. Maybe how she reacted after being told no was what drew the 'bitch' remark.

And maybe Georgia is a pain in the ass, and maybe they do look for things to complain about (there are a few people like that, though their number is often vastly exaggerated), but I still think the DJ was out of order.
I don't think anyone comes out of this story well, but I think I can understand Georgia more (young person, doesn't conform to social norms, fresh out of college and wants to make a sociopolitical point due to a combination of genuine pain, idealism and vanity [maybe, I don't know them well enough]), than I do the DJ (d*ck).

In my view, people like Georgia need a short sharp shock in society so that they learn fast that the world doesn't revolve around them and people have a right to listen to whatever music they Goddamn well please, without some stroppy mare telling them they shouldn't because it might offend them. You admit yourself that she is being idealistic, and so why is it that you feel that should be tolerated? Which you must if you think how she was treated was wrong. People like that need to get over themselves. I have a friend that was murdered, should I go to some rap gig and ask the DJ to stop playing songs that glorify gun violence? It's absurd and if I did do something like that, I would fully endorse anyone telling me to fcuk off.

I wouldn't mind but there is nothing wrong with that song. It's harmless. 'You know you want it' is not only the title of many songs, but the line appears in dozens of them. No doubt the same people complaining about it couldn't wait to go and see Christian Grey's foray at the flicks. Blurred lines indeed. Mixed messages more like it and that is ultimately what that song is about. Problem is that we live in an overly politically correct time, for men at least, where almost everything they say is said, or sing, is held under a microscope and categorized as 'rapey' if it at all is expressed in a way which doesn't also implicitly infer that written consent should always be sought before engaging in any or all sexual acts.

It's not so long ago I remember Madonna's song Justify My Love and the lyric 'Poor is the man. Whose pleasures depend. On the permission of another.' Would she have asked the DJ to turn that off had a remix of it came on? I highly doubt it. I really don't know why this Blurred Lines song has got so much hate tbh. There are songs with far worse lyrics. Is it just because it was a hit? If it is, then based on that criteria, I want the following song banned:

Azealia Banks - '212'

I'm a eat your food up boo, I could bust your 8..

(The "food" here is a clear reference to the male ejaculate and '8 Ball' is well known slang for the head of the male penis)

I'm a do one too, fcuk ya gonna do??

Clear threat of non-consensual sexual assault.

Quite a misandric lyric overall.

(I'm kidding with this last part, obviously).

galljga1 · 05-08-2015 01:40PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the dj told them to f*ck off. Lets not go overboard. it was rude. so what. I dont go creating blog posts every time somebody tells me to f*ck off. i wouldnt have the time.

Fcuk off.

Kev W · 05-08-2015 01:40PM

smoking_kills wrote: »

Do you consider telling the DJ not to play a song because it upsets you standard behavior for clubbers?

No, but only because there are few songs that have such a reputation for being upsetting.

Kev W · 05-08-2015 01:41PM

Wright wrote: »

With or without provocation? If you go up to a DJ and give out to him for something, absolutely I could see it. Know any choirboy DJ's who clock off early cause they got church in the morning?

Not justifying his behaviour, he could just as easily have said nothing, but there's actual messed up stuff happening in the world right now that we can be angry about.

And yet here we all are.

Kev W · 05-08-2015 01:42PM

NachoBusiness wrote: »

It's a popular song and expecting a DJ not to play it and being so rude as she did so, was silly. Maybe how she reacted after being told no was what drew the 'bitch' remark.

Oh for...

SHE DIDN'T DO THAT.

Wright · 05-08-2015 01:42PM

BlimpyBoy wrote: »

I just had a look through her recent Facebook history and now I think I have leprosy.

Yeah... people like this hurt the struggle of people she associates with (homosexuals/asexuals and victims of assault)

The Corinthian · 05-08-2015 01:43PM

Kev W wrote: »

You'll have to rephrase that, it seems like you're asserting that nobody recognises self-identification, which is not true.

No. Of course some people recognize self-identification, just as some believe that the moon landings were fake.

So does anyone credible recognize self-identification as a reliable measure? You are, after all, the one defending this practice.

end of the road · 05-08-2015 01:43PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Some of these quotes are incredible, both from the complainant and the original DJ. As one of the commenters said, the DJ is there to play music, not give you a hug.

http://thetab.com/uk/leeds/2015/08/03/leeds-grad-claims-kicked-gay-club-complaining-blurred-lines-17684

Leeds grad claims she was kicked out of gay club for complaining about ‘Blurred Lines’

A Leeds graduate claims she was thrown out of a gay club and verbally abused after complaining to the DJ who played Blurred Lines.

Georgia Greenfield, who left Leeds in 2013, was ejected on Tuesday morning from Queen’s Court – Leeds’ main gay club. Georgia, 23, complained to the DJ saying it made her recall being raped.

Georgia wrote a note on a phone to the DJ saying: “‘I know you want it’ are the exact words my rapist said to me before he raped me. I don’t want to hear this ****.” Shockingly, the grad says the DJ called over the microphone: “**** off you silly bitch.”

Georgia says: “I didn’t expect the song to be turned off but I wanted to give the person playing it an impression of its effect.

“I didn’t even expect them to turn it off or to say anything back to me at all. Why would you?”

But Georgia and friend Noah were left shocked when the DJ told Georgia over the microphone to “**** off you silly bitch” as they walked off.

Friend Noah Martin, a French third year who was with Georgia at the club, said: “My initial reaction was disgust, fear and anger. I couldn’t believe it happened in a space that was supposed to be safe – a gay club.”

When they tried to re-enter the club, 23-year old Georgia claims they were told by bouncers the DJ had advised neither her nor her friend were allowed back in the club.

Georgia said: “I was in disbelief that I was being thrown out of a club for telling the DJ I was raped.

“As I was explaining the actual reasons to the bouncers (not to get back in, but because it was ridiculous) the DJ said over the microphone: ‘If you don’t like what I have to say you can **** off somewhere else’. Then as we were walking away he added: ‘There needs to be an electric fence around the DJ booth’.”

Noah lodged a complaint to the management of Queen’s Court and received an email confirming they were aware of the incident.

The email also said: “The incident is currently being fully investigated and a full response will be forwarded to [Georgia] once finalised”.

But Noah and Georgia are still unhappy. Noah said: “The manager didn’t even use the right pronouns for Georgia”.

Georgia identifies as “gender non-conforming” and prefers to use both “she and “they” pronouns, adding: “Noah as far as I know identifies as non-binary”.

When contacted by The Tab, a spokesperson for Queen’s Court said: “An investigation is underway. Due to it being pride weekend, it is taking a bit longer, but I am speaking to the lady in question.”

Georgia now wants disciplinary action to be taken against the DJ, and for Blurred Lines to be banned from the club “because it triggers so many women and people assigned female who go there”.

Georgia added: “Or at least it should be announced before it’s played from now on, so at least people can leave.”

jesus fcuking christ. its a song. a **** song but a song.

Wright · 05-08-2015 01:44PM

Kev W wrote: »

And yet here we all are.

That's a great argument you've bested me.

Welp, not much to be achieved in this thread. Good luck folks.

zeffabelli · 05-08-2015 01:44PM

Kev W wrote: »

No they didn't. It got turned into a gender issue here but the main issue originally was the verbal abuse from the DJ. The gender pronoun issue was just the icing on the cake.

The DJ was at work, doing a job. You call it verbal abuse, others would call it establishing boundaries.

ISIS are sound · 05-08-2015 01:44PM

Tbh if I was a dj in the middle of my set and some crazy bitch came up to me rambling about her 'rape experience' I'd tell her to **** off.

NachoBusiness · 05-08-2015 01:45PM

Kev W wrote: »

Oh for...

SHE DIDN'T DO THAT.

Yes she did. Here is what she wrote:

"'I know you want it’ are the exact words my rapist said to me before he raped me. I don’t want to hear this shit.

Kev W · 05-08-2015 01:45PM

The Corinthian wrote: »

No. Of course some people recognize self-identification, just as some believe that the moon landings were fake.

So does anyone credible recognize self-identification as a reliable measure? You are, after all, the one defending this practice.

What does "credible" mean to you?

Kev W · 05-08-2015 01:46PM

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Yes she did:

"'I know you want it’ are the exact words my rapist said to me before he raped me. I don’t want to hear this shit.

Saying she doesn't want to hear it is not the same as telling him he can't play it. The song was already playing FFS.

hatrickpatrick · 05-08-2015 01:46PM

"B!tch" is another gendered slur which sjw types deem ok in certain contexts - for example, when describing thin women as "skinny b!tches" in a song which professes to oppose body shaming. :pac:

ohnonotgmail · 05-08-2015 01:47PM

galljga1 wrote: »

Fcuk off.

this will be all over the front of the daily mail tomorrow, you mark my words.

frostyjacks · 05-08-2015 01:49PM

She comes across as a bit of an oddball on twitter. For someone that didn't bother reporting her own rape to the police, she's quick to report on trivial stuff.

UK graduate thrown out of gay club after "triggering" Blurred Lines is played

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