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UK graduate thrown out of gay club after "triggering" Blurred Lines is played

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  • #242
    Into The Blue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Into The Blue


    Wright wrote: »
    Yes everyone else assumed this too; I think that guy is making the 'hilarious' insinuation that all UK graduates are gay or something.

    No, not that at all. I just don't see why those bits of info were required in the title. But the op explained. End of.


  • #243
    pmasterson95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Kev W vs. The dregs of AH more like.

    I dont identify as a dreg how dare you.


  • #244
    CruelCoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    galljga1 wrote: »
    What think ye of this lady?
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11678667/Rachel-Dolezal-who-pretended-to-be-African-American-says-she-identifies-as-black.html

    Fine, "i'm black at heart", whatever.

    She'll obviously have no issue with me identifing as turquoise so.


  • #245
    RWCNT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    How come all the highly original "I identify as black/tall/a lamp" type responses from the usual crew of geniuses are being tolerated here when they're usually reprimanded in other TG-related threads?


  • #246
    Wright
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭Wright


    Into The Blue wrote: »
    End of.

    Not really. Any decent op will place the person/story, what about 'UK graduate' gets your thong riding up?


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  • #247
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Wright wrote: »
    Not really. Any decent op will place the person/story, what about 'UK graduate' gets your thong riding up?

    probably more the "graduate" bit than the "uk" bit. like that makes them in some way special.


  • #248
    pmasterson95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    RWCNT wrote: »
    How come all the highly original "I identify as black/tall/a lamp" type responses from the usual crew of geniuses are being tolerated here when they're usually reprimanded in other TG-related threads?

    This all you and kev have left? Oh no our agenda and faux outrage has been showed up. Please save us powers that be and end these points we dont have an excuse for.



    I believe the thing is you report and then they decide action. Begging for help/rescuing publicly isn't the procedure


  • #249
    Kev W
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    pmasterson95 wrote: »
    This all you and kev have left? Oh no our agenda and faux outrage has been showed up. Please save us powers that be and end these points we dont have an excuse for.



    I believe the thing is you report and then they decide action. Begging for help/rescuing publicly isn't the procedure

    What?


  • #250
    RWCNT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    pmasterson95 wrote: »
    This all you and kev have left? Oh no our agenda and faux outrage has been showed up. Please save us powers that be and end these points we dont have an excuse for.



    I believe the thing is you report and then they decide action. Begging for help/rescuing publicly isn't the procedure

    What agenda and faux outrage? This is my first post in the thread. I would never report a post, I think people should be allowed to post whatever. I'm just curious about the reason for the double standard.


  • #251
    Wright
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭Wright


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    probably more the "graduate" bit than the "uk" bit. like that makes them in some way special.

    I'm betting on the polar opposite ;) I'd say he thought the incident happened here, and we were specifying it was a UK person because that made them in some way special.


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  • #252
    fullstop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,719 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    valoren wrote: »
    This is classic attention seeking.

    Kev W or he/she/it from the OP? Actually both are!

    Also the link in the OP states this happened on Tuesday, but the linked twitter post is from May...


  • #253
    Into The Blue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Into The Blue


    Wright wrote: »
    Not really. Any decent op will place the person/story, what about 'UK graduate' gets your thong riding up?

    I don't know what else to say, bar, what i already explained. I didn't think it was necessary to the story. The op explained his thinking..

    I'm running out of ways of saying it..........


  • #254
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    zeffabelli wrote: »
    It astounds me too how the feminists and egalitarianists can't see the Puritanism and how they are out to destroy fun and everyone's sex lives with their political bull****.

    It's astounding, especially when you see them arguing over whether something is right or wrong for the "correct" reasons. Happens a lot with stripping, for example - it's wrong because it objectifies women, but it's right because it gives them agency - but sometimes people using agency are unconsciously abusing themselves - well that's not your right to dictate - etc etc etc.

    The idea of live and let live, and self-determination / autonomy doesn't ever seem to factor in to such debates.
    Now you have these morons invalidating consent if under the influence of alcohol, so essentially have taken my adulthood away from me.

    I'd take this a step further and suggest, racism accusations aside, that if sex under the influence of alcohol was made illegal, the population of Ireland would plummet even more than it did during the famine. :pac:


  • #255
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Wright wrote: »
    I'm betting on the polar opposite ;) I'd say he thought the incident happened here, and we were specifying it was a UK person because that made them in some way special.

    possible i suppose. we may never know :)


  • #256
    Uncle Ben
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    'blurred line's', not a bad tune.


  • #257
    SeanW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭SeanW


    Kev W wrote: »
    "They" as a pronoun works for anyone. Unless you object to being referred to as "they" then you yourself allow for alternating pronouns by your own definition.
    "They" doesn't work because it is a plural term. I for one would be quite insulted to be referred to as "they" I mean, do I have an invisible clone beside me mirroring my movements or what? The f***? Seriously? "They" to refer to a single individual? I seriously despair sometimes.
    The King of Moo wrote: »
    A little worse than a nursery rhyme, no?
    Do you remember the full passages of "Rock a bye baby" that stuff was pretty scary.

    https://u24.gov.ua/
    Join NAFO today:

    Help us in helping Ukraine.



  • #258
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Dimwits like the girl in this story should just carry earplugs around with them in case the song comes on if it's so traumatic, instead of dictating what everyone else should and shouldn't listen to.


  • #259
    Kev W
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    SeanW wrote: »
    "They" doesn't work because it is a plural term. I for one would be quite insulted to be referred to as "they" I mean, do I have an invisible clone beside me mirroring my movements or what? The f***? Seriously? "They" to refer to a single individual? I seriously despair sometimes.

    they
    ðeɪ/Submit
    pronoun
    1.
    used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned or easily identified.
    "the two men could get life sentences if they are convicted"
    2.
    used to refer to a person of unspecified sex.
    "ask a friend if they could help"


  • #260
    RWCNT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    SeanW wrote: »
    "They" doesn't work because it is a plural term. I for one would be quite insulted to be referred to as "they" I mean, do I have an invisible clone beside me mirroring my movements or what? The f***? Seriously? "They" to refer to a single individual? I seriously despair sometimes.

    Do you remember the full passages of "Rock a bye baby" that stuff was pretty scary.

    Singular they has been around since Shakespeare.


  • #261
    Kev W
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Dimwits like the girl in this story should just carry earplugs around with them in case the song comes on if it's so traumatic, instead of dictating what everyone else should and shouldn't listen to.

    Once again:
    Nobody is telling anyone what they can't listen to.


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  • #262
    Into The Blue
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    Wright wrote: »
    I'd say he thought the incident happened here, and we were specifying it was a UK person because that made them in some way special.

    I honestly don't know what to say. You can only take what i post at face value.


  • #263
    The Corinthian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,772 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    A little worse than a nursery rhyme, no?
    There was an old woman who lived in a shoe,
    She had so many children, her uterus fell out...
    Kev W wrote: »
    Incidentally, since there is a process of psychological evaluation before gender reassignment surgery can commence and that hasn't stopped gender reassignment surgery from happening, doesn't that indicate that one can be born with a gender identity distinct from their physical sex? Someone must be passing these evaluations.
    Actually it indicates that self identification is a crock of shìt.


  • #264
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Kev W wrote: »
    Once again:
    Nobody is telling anyone what they can't listen to.

    from the story in the OP
    “‘I know you want it’ are the exact words my rapist said to me before he raped me. I don’t want to hear this ****.”

    i think thats a pretty clear attempt to get the DJ to turn if off. I know they said that isnt the intention but i dont see how you can read it any other way.


  • #265
    Into The Blue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Into The Blue


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    possible i suppose. we may never know :)

    Can you see my posts?


  • #266
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Dimwits like the girl in this story should just carry earplugs around with them in case the song comes on if it's so traumatic, instead of dictating what everyone else should and shouldn't listen to.

    Except that it's not their own listening to it that they object to, that's a cover. What they actually object to is that there isn't a rule stating that such content cannot exist at all, and that they are not allowed to police what content others are "allowed" to consume. The debate over banning certain forums on Reddit, such as CoonTown (anti-black forum) pretty much underlines this - they have the option of not visiting the aforementioned forum specifically, but their objection is to the fact that certain viewpoints / opinions are not considered awful enough to be outright "not allowed".

    Again, these so-called "progressives" share more ideology-wise with social conservatives of the 50s and 60s than they realise. They are authoritarians.

    EDIT: Also as I was saying to Zeff, it changes based on context. For example: Erotica involving non-consensual sex is ok for those who fantasise about being victims to read and enjoy, but not for those who fantasise about being aggressors. Or sometimes it's not even ok for victims to read and enjoy, because they are "unconsciously abusing themselves" or something like that.

    When Facesitting was banned in UK porn, the rather sickening argument from certain producers was "I don't think the government understands, in Facesitting it's the woman who's doing the suffocating". Now I actually enjoy that type of porn and would absolutely agree that it shouldn't be banned, but to say that it's ok or not ok based on the gender of the top or bottom is absolutely sickening, to my mind.


  • #267
    galljga1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭galljga1


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    "Well met lifeform, I hope that your mental and emotional states are within the spectrum that you consider adequate, or better than adequate, insofar as emotional states are accessible to you. Alternatively, I hope that your respiratory, biological or life supporting systems are operating optimally."

    Would that be sufficiently inoffensive way to address somebody?

    I would hazard a guess that this does not cover silicon based life forms.


  • #268
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 56,569 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Kev W wrote: »
    I feel sorry for you if the idea of politeness seems silly to you.

    What is polite about asking someone their pronoun?

    In fact, I am pretty sure that females who look like women and males who look like men are going to be pretty insulted if you ask them are they a he or a she.

    For women it would imply a lack of feminine looks, and for men it would imply a lack of masculine looks, which I bet those groups would prefer not to be lacking in.


  • #269
    Kev W
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    The Corinthian wrote: »
    There was an old woman who lived in a shoe,
    She had so many children, her uterus fell out...

    Actually it indicates that self identification is a crock of shìt.

    So if they pass the assessment or not, the result is the same to you? So why bring it up?


  • #270
    zeffabelli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭zeffabelli


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    It's astounding, especially when you see them arguing over whether something is right or wrong for the "correct" reasons. Happens a lot with stripping, for example - it's wrong because it objectifies women, but it's right because it gives them agency - but sometimes people using agency are unconsciously abusing themselves - well that's not your right to dictate - etc etc etc.

    The idea of live and let live, and self-determination / autonomy doesn't ever seem to factor in to such debates.



    I'd take this a step further and suggest, racism accusations aside, that if sex under the influence of alcohol was made illegal, the population of Ireland would plummet even more than it did during the famine. :pac:

    Yeah I stopped listening the day I was told wearing a skirt is internalised oppression, as is mascara....

    Now when Jenner wears a skirt it's an act of heroism.


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  • #271
    The Corinthian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,772 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Kev W wrote: »
    So if they pass the assessment or not, the result is the same to you?
    Sorry, but what's that got to so with the fact that self identification is not recognized by anyone?


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