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Leaked IAAf report on doping

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭straps




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭clear thinking


    Looks bad for kenyans, ruskies.

    Mo Farah not on suspect list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,148 ✭✭✭rom




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    If this report is surprising to anyone , really it's time to see a psychiatrist.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    kimmage giving away a name on newstalk was fairly funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭token56


    The timing of this just before the World Championships will hopefully make it all the more damaging. I do think professional athletics needs a massive fall before it can become perceived as a clean and fair sport again.

    I wonder will having someone like Seb Coe at the head of the IAAF make a difference. It seems like the problem involves so many organisations it probably wont.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    shels4ever wrote: »
    kimmage giving away a name on newstalk was fairly funny.


    Who did he name?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    micar wrote: »
    Who did he name?

    If it's a high profile female athlete, I'd guess on a one lap championship peaker who has already missed tests allegedly.
    Otherwise could it really be a multi eventer???
    I hope they are a product of the UK system if it's true as that's the only way they will take ownership of the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    BBC Sport wrote:
    A top UK athlete is among seven Britons with suspicious blood scores.

    Seems strange that the UK media reports have been quick to exonerate Farah and Ennis-Hill but not their other athletes. If I was a 'top UK athlete' and I was clean I'd be unhappy that others were confirmed as not being involved but not me. After all, there's only two or three other athletes out there that would fit that billing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    Otherwise could it really be a multi eventer??? .

    No...no.....Not the woman I love.

    Got to see her in Hyde Park during the Olympics. Made my day. Sublime ass!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    token56 wrote: »
    The timing of this just before the World Championships will hopefully make it all the more damaging. I do think professional athletics needs a massive fall before it can become perceived as a clean and fair sport again.

    I wonder will having someone like Seb Coe at the head of the IAAF make a difference. It seems like the problem involves so many organisations it probably wont.

    Football, Rugby and Tennis are perceived as clean, despite the reality that they are as dirty, if not more dirty that athletics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Quit the suspense. Just tell us who Kimmage named. It's not breaking the charter as it is not our speculation, just reporting what Kimmage said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭dublin runner


    Chivito550 wrote:
    Quit the suspense. Just tell us who Kimmage named. It's not breaking the charter as it is not our speculation, just reporting what Kimmage said.


    Don't think he actually named the person. I can't really be confident. Was fighting the wind at that stage. He alluded to the fact that they take part in celebrity game shows etc. Something like that! Available on podcast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    I'm sure gerry Kiernan or Chamney will construe this to be the GAAs fault....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    I'm sure gerry Kiernan or Chamney will construe this to be the GAAs fault....

    I love the use of the .... at the end. It's always a dead giveaway that somebody is just trying to stir sh1t for no reason.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15 Ultrapussy


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    I love the use of the .... at the end. It's always a dead giveaway that somebody is just trying to stir sh1t for no reason.

    The word you're looking for is ellipsis. Carry on...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Kimmage must not be great at the auld maths:
    The stats showed that Ireland had a 3% level of abnormal blood tests, and as Kimmage pointed out, Britain recorded a level of 4% of abnormal tests, which worked out at 12 athletes, "so we have maybe 8 or 9 athletes who have had abnormal tests".

    4% of British athletes (Population 60m) = 12 athletes
    3% of Irish athletes (Population 5m) = No more than 1 athlete

    Where is he pulling this 8 or 9 athletes from? Plucking them from the clouds.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15 Ultrapussy


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Kimmage must not be great at the auld maths:



    4% of British athletes (Population 60m) = 12 athletes
    3% of Irish athletes (Population 5m) = No more than 1 athlete

    Where is he pulling this 8 or 9 athletes from? Plucking them from the clouds.

    No, think about it - carefully...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭siochain


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Kimmage must not be great at the auld maths:



    4% of British athletes (Population 60m) = 12 athletes
    3% of Irish athletes (Population 5m) = No more than 1 athlete

    Where is he pulling this 8 or 9 athletes from? Plucking them from the clouds.

    Wasn't it 3% of those tested ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    siochain wrote: »
    Wasn't it 3% of those tested ?

    Yeh, but with their country being 12 times bigger, you'd imagine there would be significantly more tests taking place there than here, in an absolute sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    Had a listen to kimmage.

    All he says that a British female athlete was confronted at a London hotel.

    Alluded that this athlete is due to be given a "hero" award in the next two weeks at some celebrity thing.

    Only thing I can find is the pride of Britain award....but I could be way off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,503 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    A complete non story. 1/3 athletes, suspicious tests. Give it a rest and get back to us when something actually happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Life time bans for doping its the only deterrent that will work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    walshb wrote: »
    A complete non story. 1/3 athletes, suspicious tests. Give it a rest and get back to us when something actually happens.

    Sure, let's pretend it never happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    Worth remembering that the IAAF spends 5% of it's overall budget on anti-doping, and this is the result. Imagine how bad other sports with weaker anti-doping systems such as tennis, rugby, football are. And GAA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    walshb wrote: »
    A complete non story. 1/3 athletes, suspicious tests. Give it a rest and get back to us when something actually happens.

    😄 legend


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Ther seems to be a trend in athletics to say Sure look at x, y, z sport, they must be really bad. At least with cycling competitors and fans alike accept there's a problem rather than look over the fence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    For me the the worst part of this story is that it was leaked from iaaf. And in there statement the they say they will do every thing to protect there privacy policy. Which on the face of it sounds fine but it's the same as what the cycling federation done in previous times. I'm not saying that all of these suspicious test should automatically be banned but there seems to be a lack of transparency that the iaaf need to take there head out if the sand and stand up and be counted.
    Yes of course there is a drug problem in athletics but brushing it under the carpet is not the answer.

    In there defense for hiding the issue some of the biggest sports have been hiding it for years with a perceived it's not a problem in our sport and getting away with it.
    In a recent report Golf came out as the highest % of failed test per tested people and the media didn't or chose not to make to much of it. Last year the highest % was Rugby again there was nothing made of it in the media.
    Sorry can't link the report at the moment but a quick search will find it.


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