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RIP cilla black

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  • #62
    The_Valeyard
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    She was a Saturday night institution. Think Blind Date was watched by nearly all households in Ireland & UK.

    RIP


  • #63
    [Deleted User]
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    mikedoherty99 wrote: »
    She had an awful reputation for being horrible to everybody

    She was supposed to be vile. Afair her career ended because someone who she had treated terribly in ITV eventually wound his way to the top of the pile and remembered how she had dealt with him.

    But people like to buy into an image. And in fairness to her, she had to be a good entertainer to last so long. And I guess that's what should be remembered today.


  • #64
    amandstu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,910 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Surprised it is not on the BBC website. Something about Bobby Brown -surely of less interest to a British audience?


  • #65
    Menas
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    Would stongly disagree with this, that's how she originally made her name.

    Yeah, she had two number ones in 1964 when pop music was in its infancy and the beatles running riot in the charts. No mean feat.


  • #66
    SpaceTime
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    Cold War Kid wrote: »
    OK, as a compromise joey and Fudge you: 72 is not very old, and is quite an early age to die.

    Tough as nails is ok (within reason) when working in such an industry, but nasty and spiteful isn't, and the two don't have to co-exist. If anything, people who are tough as nails when they need to be can be lovely otherwise.

    As I said, I'm merely describing, not excusing.

    All I know from experience is the industry tends to accept behaviour from various celebs and also high ranking diva types who aren't celebs but are powerful in the media/entertainment field that would be totally out of bounds in any other walk of life.

    I'm not saying all celebs behave like that, but I've encountered a few horror stories over the years.

    It seems to be a cultural problem in the sector generally. It's just not surprising to me at all.


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  • #67
    murpho999
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    amandstu wrote: »
    Surprised it is not on the BBC website. Something about Bobby Brown -surely of less interest to a British audience?

    Well it's breaking news and they are often slower to run stories like this until it is 100% confirmed.


  • #68
    SpaceTime
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    Well it's breaking news and they are often slower to run stories like this until it is 100% confirmed.

    They do multi-way confirmation of anything.

    You don't want to be the news channel that's "never wrong (for long)"


  • #69
    Robsweezie
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    There always has to be at least one " they were a cVnt" mouthpiece in amongst the tributes. Same with nelson Mandela.


  • #70
    The_Valeyard
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    amandstu wrote: »
    Surprised it is not on the BBC website. Something about Bobby Brown -surely of less interest to a British audience?

    She was a rare thing for the BBC, a 70s star not under police investigation.


  • #71
    murpho999
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    mikedoherty99 wrote: »
    She had an awful reputation for being horrible to everybody

    How do people know of these reputations and put them on websites as soon as a famous person dies?


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  • #72
    mikedoherty99
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    Robsweezie wrote: »
    There always has to be at least one " they were a cVnt" mouthpiece in amongst the tributes. Same with nelson Mandela.

    Lol


  • #73
    mikedoherty99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭mikedoherty99


    Robsweezie wrote: »
    There always has to be at least one " they were a cVnt" mouthpiece in amongst the tributes. Same with nelson Mandela.

    Lol


  • #74
    murpho999
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    She was a rare thing for the BBC, a 70s star not under police investigation.

    More famous for work on ITV so your "joke" doesn't work.


  • #75
    SpaceTime
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    Robsweezie wrote: »
    There always has to be at least one " they were a cVnt" mouthpiece in amongst the tributes. Same with nelson Mandela.

    You're looking at a much loved on screen character and a hugely successful entertainer who'd reached "icon of an era" status.

    The back stories about being a diva won't really matter.


  • #76
    dark crystal
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    She was a rare thing for the BBC, a 70s star not under police investigation.

    She wasn't a BBC employee though, was she?


  • #77
    [Deleted User]
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    Robsweezie wrote: »
    There always has to be at least one " they were a cVnt" mouthpiece in amongst the tributes. Same with nelson Mandela.

    On the other hand, when people say "she was lovely" it's fair enough to say actually her reputation was the opposite.

    Frankly it doesn't bother me either way. If a footballer, singer or presenter is obnoxious or wonderful, I really only care about whether they are good at football, singing or presenting.


  • #78
    YFlyer
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    I guess the blind date with her won't happen :(


  • #79
    The_Valeyard
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    dark crystal wrote: »
    She wasn't a BBC employee though, was she?

    Contracted though?


  • #80
    Summer wind
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    Always loved her TV shows. She gave a lorra lorra enjoyment to a lorra lorra people down through the years. May she Rest In Peace.


  • #81
    Menas
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    How do people know of these reputations and put them on websites as soon as a famous person dies?

    She was well known as not very nice....for eg...this quote from a thread on a pilots forum, pprune.org, in 2007. She is mentioned negatively by a few posters a good few times in that thread alone.
    You don't talk to Ms Black.
    Ms Black will talk to you.
    Ms Black only sits in 1A
    Ms Black will have some champagne now.
    Ms Black talks through a personal assistant.

    Vile bitch, rumour has it she was banned from BA for a while because of her attitiude to staff and excessive demands about seating.


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  • #82
    Yellowblackbird
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    Gladiators was never the same when she left.
    RIP.


  • #83
    dark crystal
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Contracted though?

    No....is it Esther Rantzen you're thinking of?

    (Just going with a theme here...)


  • #84
    The_Valeyard
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    More famous for work on ITV so your "joke" doesn't work.

    Her show 'Cilla' ran for over 10 years on the BBC.

    She was also famous for that, as was her music played in BBC radio on the 60s.


  • #85
    Hitchens
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    Robsweezie wrote: »
    There always has to be at least one " they were a cVnt" mouthpiece in amongst the tributes. Same with nelson Mandela.

    And especially as Nelson never re offended after being released from prison ;)


  • #86
    SpaceTime
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    dark crystal wrote: »
    She wasn't a BBC employee though, was she?


    She mostly worked for ITV and wasn't really a London Celeb.

    There was a big regional bias with ITV affiliates, particularly Granada and a few other big ones historically having been the route to national attention for people from "the North".

    Cilla was also a bit of a queen of light entertainment shows, which were much more of an ITV thing.


  • #87
    dark crystal
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    SpaceTime wrote: »
    She mostly worked for ITV and wasn't really a London Celeb.

    There was a big regional bias with ITV affiliates, particularly Granada and a few other big ones historically having been the route to national attention for people from "the North".

    Cilla was also a bit of a queen of light entertainment shows, which were much more of an ITV thing.

    Yeah, in a largely male dominated profession, she became quite the power player in the 80's and 90's. At one stage, she was the highest paid female presenter on television. You'd have to give her kudos for that.


  • #88
    SpaceTime
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    Menas wrote: »
    She was well known as not very nice....for eg...this quote from a thread on a pilots forum, pprune.org, in 2007. She is mentioned negatively by a few posters a good few times in that thread alone.

    The speaking through a PA thing was quite possibly because she was almost completely deaf in her later years and also suffered from extremely bad arthritis and wouldn't necessarily have been able to get around the aircraft beyond the first row.

    A lot of people who get hit with those kinds of problems can be very ratty if they're trying to cover it up.


  • #89
    amandstu
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    She was a rare thing for the BBC, a 70s star not under police investigation.

    That is a tired joke at this stage-and perhaps tasteless when someone has died.


  • #90
    cruais
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    St . peter at the pearly gates...

    "What's your name and where do you come from?".


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  • #91
    [Deleted User]
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    Apparently her full name was "Priscilla Maria Veronica White" How retro is that? Seems to scream mullets under newsgirl caps, miniskirts and belted cardigans, and girls riding on the back of motorcycles in bleak housing estates.

    You never hear of anyone called Priscilla or Veronica these days.


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