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Jericho, Cecil's brother now shot dead

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    arayess wrote: »
    lions....
    oh...


    The thing is we have the most intelligent brain in the animal kingdom. We're supposed to be above that. Lions also kill the cubs of the previous male. Should we do that too because you know lions do it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    Candie wrote: »
    I keep forgetting I can only care about one thing at a time!

    The faux outrage is getting a little tedious at this stage. Ah, at least it will be the bankers or Irish Water next week.

    Do the people who feel so committed to this cause donate to the upkeeping of the sanctuarys?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,352 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    cena wrote: »
    Anyone caught shooting these beautiful animals should get life in jail.

    If it was against the law, I'd agree with you, but its not.

    It needs to be made illegal first.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think there's always a certain amount of people that will go out of their way to show how much more socially aware they are by putting people down for reacting to or commenting on a high profile news story. I call them the Just Sayin' clowns.

    'Oh, 2 people died in a bomb in Glasgow? 15 villagers died in a drone strike in Iraq. Just saying... '

    Ah, those activists in groups like Black Lives Matter are "Just Sayin' Clowns"?

    You are entitled to that opinion. I think they make a very valid observation. We can agree to differ.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    The thing is we have the most intelligent brain in the animal kingdom. We're supposed to be above that. Lions also kill the cubs of the previous male. Should we do that too because you know lions do it?

    no. I didn't say or even imply that lions were worthy of copying.

    Merely pointing out the error in the rhetorical question asked - I assume it was rhetorical.
    I miss cecil and jericho as much as the next facebook user but the is faux outrage and demonising of the human race because of the actions of a few is annoying.


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  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cena wrote: »
    Anyone caught shooting these beautiful animals should get life in jail.

    What about fishermen, or do we just hate the killers of big cats?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,352 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Some animal lives are apparently worth more than others.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's hard to care about this when I know that there is animal cruelty happening here and people don't give a damn ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    I farted and knocked a fly off the table killing him instantly. Should I hand myself in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wang King


    I farted and knocked a fly off the table killing him instantly. Should I hand myself in?

    Wait 10 mins and then call the fuzz....plus...if you live up to your name they'll probably have you up on lamb-fiddling charges.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    It's hard to care about this when I know that there is animal cruelty happening here and people don't give a damn ...

    Are you including everyone in Ireland there or just a few?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,639 ✭✭✭feargale


    Such whsataboutery!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Ah, those activists in groups like Black Lives Matter are "Just Sayin' Clowns"?

    You are entitled to that opinion. I think they make a very valid observation. We can agree to differ.

    I was talking in relation to Candie's original point that we are able to care about more than one thing which was directly related to someone saying meanwhile some brown people died.

    Should we not comment on it at all for fear of upsetting other interest groups?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭fran17


    Another one! Well that's just purrfect ain't it :mad:


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was talking in relation to Candie's original point that we are able to care about more than one thing which was directly related to someone saying meanwhile some brown people died.

    Should we not comment on it at all for fear of upsetting other interest groups?

    Oh we are able to care about more than one thing.

    And people are entitled to observe that people seem to care more about one thing than another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Oh we are able to care about more than one thing.

    And people are entitled to observe that people seem to care more about one thing than another.

    How do you know what people care more about?

    Jesus, the amount of people on these threads jumping in to sneer at others having an opinion on this subject is baffling. If you find the subject so trivial, why are you even bothering to contribute (and I use that term loosely) at all?

    Start up your own thread about ISIS or the Syrian refugee crisis.....oh wait, there are threads about those already! It's like this isn't the only subject people on AH care about at all!


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How do you know what people care more about?

    Jesus, the amount of people on these threads jumping in to sneer at others having an opinion on this subject is baffling. If you find the subject so trivial, why are you even bothering to contribute (and I use that term loosely) at all?

    I believe in the case of people involved in Black Lives Matter, they make the simple observation that Jimmy Kimmel hasn't turned on the tears for any other issue. Would that be a good indicator that he seems to care more?

    I'm not sneering at anyone for having an opinion, and I assumed this thread would incorporate comment about the reaction to the cat killing and not just a queue of people saying woe is me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    I was talking in relation to Candie's original point that we are able to care about more than one thing which was directly related to someone saying meanwhile some brown people died.

    Should we not comment on it at all for fear of upsetting other interest groups?

    Candie personalised the issue by bringing herself into it. The original post was about brown kids in the Middle East ( it's since morphed into another #americanlivesmatter, but let's let that pass).

    The question is why the general outrage about a lion killed by American superceeds, in the U.S. in particular, concern about the many victims of American imperialism, by itself or its proxies.

    And yes, there's clearly a limited amount of outrage judging by the Twitter and Facebook posts. And yes it's selective. I don't see Jimmy Kimmel crying over dead Palestinians and I doubt I ever will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Woe is me.


  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sorry to spoil the frenzy, but as I presumed earlier, Jericho is not dead.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/01/us-zimbabwe-wildlife-lion-jericho-idUSKCN0Q63CQ20150801
    The brother of Cecil, the lion killed in Zimbabwe by an American hunter last month, is not dead, a researcher monitoring the pride told Reuters, contradicting media reports that Jericho had been killed.

    "He looks alive and well to me as far as I can tell," said Brent Stapelkamp, field researcher for the Hwange Lion Research Project which is monitoring the lion with a GPS tag.

    A group called the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force posted on its Facebook page that Jericho had been killed at 4 p.m. on Saturday, a report picked up by some Western news media that was rapidly spread on Twitter.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    First they shot Cecil, I said nothing.

    Then they shot Jericho, Cecil's brother.

    Now I say something by Jove, those hunters are despicable.

    Humans should be shot trying to enter Animal reservation parks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    This is getting out of hand at this point.

    Leave the man alone ffs and let a legal process deal with him if he is indeed even breaking any laws. These fake news stories and frenzied attempts to whip up more internet mobs are both sad and dangerous at the same time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    I'm sure the poachers will be disappointed now that the glorious image of hunting wild animals has been tarnished.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Candie personalised the issue by bringing herself into it. The original post was about brown kids in the Middle East ( it's since morphed into another #americanlivesmatter, but let's let that pass).

    The question is why the general outrage about a lion killed by American superceeds, in the U.S. in particular, concern about the many victims of American imperialism, by itself or its proxies.

    And yes, there's clearly a limited amount of outrage judging by the Twitter and Facebook posts. And yes it's selective. I don't see Jimmy Kimmel crying over dead Palestinians and I doubt I ever will.

    What then for an Irish person commenting on it? Are we somehow giving implicit approval of American imperialism if we leave a comment on boards saying we find it unpleasant to hear people are killing endangered animals for sport.


  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    First they shot Cecil, I said nothing.

    Then they shot Jericho, Cecil's brother...
    I don't know if you're joking , but it looks disturbingly like you're invoking Martin Niemöller's "first they came for socialists, and I did not speak out" quotation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    I don't know if you're joking , but it looks disturbingly like you're invoking Martin Niemöller's "first they came for socialists, and I did not speak out" quotation.

    I am. Until people start taking the Animal Kingdom seriously more and more incidents like this will transpire. The Illegal Ivory Trade is one of the biggest commercial activities in the world. We have Rhino Horns fetching colossal sums. Exotic pets being bought and sold in South East Asia going to markets throughout mainland China and elsewhere in the West.

    Conservationists have successfully brought back many magnificent animals from the brink of extinction yet the poachers and environmental degradation continue to destroy their habitat. I don't mean to preach but this killing has focused attention on the issues of animal rights. I gladly take the time to inform you of the great Wilderness we all share.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭hawkwind23


    Is bullying not the "in" downer at the minute?
    Animal cruelty does seem to trump it though , but isnt it ironic or moronic that the masses are muddling it all up a little.
    Seems to be morphing into a pitchforks at dawn type effort now with wild and frenzied news that a cats "brother" was murdered to whip the zombies into a fury.
    I suspect in an internet poll , stoning the dumb dentist to death and other acts of cruelty would be called for which again makes me laugh at how idiotic it all is.
    The conspiracy theory fun in me would like to think these are experiments to see how mass humans react.
    Sadly the truth is we are mainly trite and stupid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭hawkwind23


    oh BTW did we get a catchy name for Jericho yet?
    Jericho the Jammy one?


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    hawkwind23 wrote: »
    Is bullying not the "in" downer at the minute?

    I thought it was homelessness.

    A very tragic situation, not alleviated in the slightest by the Facebook "let's sit down with them and play guitar and pretend we really care" brigade.


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  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    I gladly take the time to inform you of the great Wilderness we all share.
    Indebted, I'm sure.


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