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whelan2 · 30-07-2015 11:45AM

bogman_bass wrote: »

€876 in your back pocket is still better than having a wicked bull.

Disappointing but look at the most important part of the situation

Ah I know. Thought he would clear a thousand.

AP2014 · 30-07-2015 12:13PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Very disappointed. 365kg graded as O1. €2.40/kg rang factory agent.

Jaysus they done ya there.

epfff · 30-07-2015 12:20PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Very disappointed. 365kg graded as O1. €2.40/kg rang factory agent.

O1 meat probably gone black already so of no value to processer either.

Why not sell to feeder?

mf240 · 30-07-2015 12:35PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Very disappointed. 365kg graded as O1. €2.40/kg rang factory agent.

No offence whelan but he wasnt fit to kill.

He would of fed into an r3 and over 400kgs .

whelan2 · 30-07-2015 12:36PM

epfff wrote: »

O1 meat probably gone black already so of no value to processer either.

Why not sell to feeder?

He was dangerous

Bullocks · 30-07-2015 01:17PM

epfff wrote: »

O1 meat probably gone black already so of no value to processer either.

Why not sell to feeder?

What does gone black mean epff?

epfff · 30-07-2015 02:35PM

Bullocks wrote: »

What does gone black mean epff?

If their is not adequate fat score/cover on flesh the meat goes a blue/black and does not set properly so no consumer wants it and has to be used 100% for processing

epfff · 30-07-2015 02:40PM

whelan2 wrote: »

He was dangerous

All bulls are dangerous
You only gambling if you treat any of them another way
I feed stock bulls all the time but am set up that I don't go near them when feeding and more importantly when loading for final destination

orm0nd · 30-07-2015 02:47PM

mf240 wrote: »

No offence whelan but he wasnt fit to kill.

He would of fed into an r3 and over 400kgs .

with bill for meal & maybe some one hurt or even worse

@whelan you made the right decision , nothing to gained by keeping these useless your're set up for them

CloughCasey1 · 30-07-2015 03:09PM

whelan2 wrote: »

He was dangerous

He's in the best spot now so.

CloughCasey1 · 30-07-2015 03:29PM

epfff wrote: »

All bulls are dangerous
You only gambling if you treat any of them another way
I feed stock bulls all the time but am set up that I don't go near them when feeding and more importantly when loading for final destination

Difference between dangerous and wicked. Any bullock, heifer, cow can be wicked. If wicked has to go.

just do it · 30-07-2015 04:22PM

epfff wrote: »

All bulls are dangerous
You only gambling if you treat any of them another way
I feed stock bulls all the time but am set up that I don't go near them when feeding and more importantly when loading for final destination

I'd be interested to see your handling facilities. Sent away an aggressive lad earlier this year. I hadn't been in the same space as him for ~8/10 weeks. We loaded him with patience and a tractor

epfff · 30-07-2015 07:57PM

just do it wrote: »

I'd be interested to see your handling facilities. Sent away an aggressive lad earlier this year. I hadn't been in the same space as him for ~8/10 weeks. We loaded him with patience and a tractor

Nothing fancy just a shed that can be backed into and a gate that follows in direction of exit
After that just patience inching forward

Have yet to see I that won't follow group if not overloading

mf240 · 30-07-2015 08:33PM

orm0nd wrote: »

with bill for meal & maybe some one hurt or even worse

@whelan you made the right decision , nothing to gained by keeping these useless your're set up for them

Didnt know anything about him being dangerous when i posted.

Was just saying he was short flesh . But ya probably not worth the hassle of trying to finish him.

just do it · 30-07-2015 09:52PM

It's one thing I'm glad to see in TAMS2 is grant aid for bull pens and handling facilities. I wonder how many will take advantage of the grant?

Farmer Pudsey · 31-07-2015 12:51PM

mf240 wrote: »

Didnt know anything about him being dangerous when i posted.

Was just saying he was short flesh . But ya probably not worth the hassle of trying to finish him.

Not sure about that he killed 365@2.4/kg. If you fed him for 80 days and got him to 2=/+ and got 3/kg. He would gain over 1kg/day on good silage and 8kgs of barley (or 12kgs barley and straw/hay).

Option 1 2.3/day costing 185 over 80 days
Option2 2.8/day costing 225 over 80 days.

at FS1 at 365 he was about 800kgs LW if he got to 900kgs K/O at 48% he kill 430kgs at 3.1/kg he would make 1340 euro. big difference from 860 euro.

Willfarman · 31-07-2015 03:54PM

Yes indeedy the probability of a theoretical 300 squid profit would be worth risking life and limb keeping a crackpot nutter of a bull in the place?? I would have no regrets in the ops in shoes anyway.

There is a concerted pull in operation for Tuesday next. 4.20 bullocks 4.30 heifers. Will be back to 4.15 and 4.25 there on say they.

mossiemag · 31-07-2015 05:01PM

Lads

Have a few AAX heifers, was thinking of selling in mart. Getting short on grass. Nice shape 400kgs approx, Any idea what they would make in mart?
Or i was thinking of feeding on until 430kgs approx and letting go to a butcher?
any thoughts?

whelan2 · 31-07-2015 05:40PM

mossiemag wrote: »

Lads

Have a few AAX heifers, was thinking of selling in mart. Getting short on grass. Nice shape 400kgs approx, Any idea what they would make in mart?
Or i was thinking of feeding on until 430kgs approx and letting go to a butcher?
any thoughts?

brought a 500kg aax heifer a few weeks ago and i got 1080 euro

orm0nd · 31-07-2015 05:42PM

mossiemag wrote: »

Lads

Have a few AAX heifers, was thinking of selling in mart. Getting short on grass. Nice shape 400kgs approx, Any idea what they would make in mart?
Or i was thinking of feeding on until 430kgs approx and letting go to a butcher?
any thoughts?

saw hex 385 making 935 ( 1 bidder got a twitching in his eye & the other a shake in his arm

)

depending on mart & demand ,, aa are not as sought after as hex here locally reckon 860 to 900

I said · 31-07-2015 06:12PM

Lmx bullock 520kgs €1400 in ballymahon yesterday I'd say the buyer wouldn't want to hear of a pull in prices although the seller would be happy with that.

mossiemag · 31-07-2015 06:36PM

Thanks lads

I never sold to a butcher before, but at 430kgs LW, I'm guessing she would kill out at 52% leaving 223kgs DW.
Anyone know what a butcher pays? I'm guessing 4.2 euro/kg at the moment. Then that would give a return of 937 euro.

visatorro · 31-07-2015 09:01PM

killed fr stock bull last week O grade 2.80/kg. was over thirty months

whelan2 · 31-07-2015 09:02PM

visatorro wrote: »

killed fr stock bull last week O grade 2.80/kg. was over thirty months

where did you go with him?

visatorro · 31-07-2015 09:09PM

eurofarm

Farmer Pudsey · 31-07-2015 09:13PM

Willfarman wrote: »

Yes indeedy the probability of a theoretical 300 squid profit would be worth risking life and limb keeping a crackpot nutter of a bull in the place?? I would have no regrets in the ops in shoes anyway.

There is a concerted pull in operation for Tuesday next. 4.20 bullocks 4.30 heifers. Will be back to 4.15 and 4.25 there on say they.

All bulls are dangerous. However a bull inside in a pen is relatively safe. As long as you are aware that he is a bull and he is dangerous. I have finished bulls and have finished them both outside on grass and inside in the shed. You have to be aware all the time that all bulls are dangerous. most lads that get killed by bulls are killed by the so called quite bull that turns. Taht bull inside in a pen that he could not get out of would be easy and safe to manage.

Had rig earlier this year that I could not let back to grass. Looked like a bullock. Fed him inside on barley into a 2= and got 3.9/kg for him. If I had sold him at fatscore 1 I have only got 3/kg.

visatorro wrote: »

killed fr stock bull last week O grade 2.80/kg. was over thirty months

Admittly Whealan price was a little on the low side however her bull was only FS1 what FS was your's. With bulls and cows FS is nearly more important than grade

Willfarman · 31-07-2015 09:26PM

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

All bulls are dangerous. However a bull inside in a pen is relatively safe. As long as you are aware that he is a bull and he is dangerous. I have finished bulls and have finished them both outside on grass and inside in the shed. You have to be aware all the time that all bulls are dangerous. most lads that get killed by bulls are killed by the so called quite bull that turns. Taht bull inside in a pen that he could not get out of would be easy and safe to manage.

Had rig earlier this year that I could not let back to grass. Looked like a bullock. Fed him inside on barley into a 2= and got 3.9/kg for him. If I had sold him at fatscore 1 I have only got 3/kg.

Admittly Whealan price was a little on the low side however her bull was only FS1 what FS was your's. With bulls and cows FS is nearly more important than grade

A loaded shotgun is relatively safe but you wouldn't leave it around the farmyard.

CHOPS01 · 31-07-2015 09:51PM

Have 2 chx bullocks. One of em 26 months and the other just gone 24. Reckon they are coming up on 500 kgs. Should I sell now ye think or hold for another 7/8 weeks. Won't get to killing weight here so wondering when to sell em on.

huey1975 · 31-07-2015 10:19PM

I said wrote: »

Lmx bullock 520kgs €1400 in ballymahon yesterday I'd say the buyer wouldn't want to hear of a pull in prices although the seller would be happy with that.

What about the lad that gave €1100 each for the two fancy weanlings?

CloughCasey1 · 31-07-2015 10:21PM

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Have 2 chx bullocks. One of em 26 months and the other just gone 24. Reckon they are coming up on 500 kgs. Should I sell now ye think or hold for another 7/8 weeks. Won't get to killing weight here so wondering when to sell em on.

They'd have to be more than 500kg. On grass alone a Chx of any grade should do 0.8kg without any problem a day. If they over 600kg you may get between 1450 and 1600 in mart depending how made they are. At that age they really should be on the 700kg mark and over.

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