A Slow Journey to Faster Times

aero2k · 22-07-2015 11:40AM

davedanon wrote: »

I was brought up in the 70's, but I was never allowed near my dad's car. that was a farm thing, kids driving tractors at 8 years of age, etc, and it had less to do with 'not being wrapped in bubble-wrap' than saving money by pressing the entire family into service as young as possible.

Having said that, the 70's were great.

You're right, but what modern kids would now regard as slave labour was looked on by us as a big adventure. We spent the whole year in Dublin looking forward to two months in the West and all that went with it - making hay, days in the bog, filling trailer with turf and then riding home on the top of the load.

In the case of the driving lessons, it was just my da trying to pass on useful life skills (and it was equal opportunity, my sisters were allowed steer the car as soon as they were big enough to sit on his knee). He was a carpenter by trade, and rather than taking the "stay away from the sharp tools" approach, it was "here, let me show you how to use that safely", and the driving lesson was more of the same.

I think kids have a natural level of confidence and invincibility anyway, but it's reinforced when a trusted adult obviously believes you are capable of learning things that might be considered beyond your years. It's a pity most of us grow out of that phase or other, careless adults knock it out of us. I'm sure this discussion has applications to youth development! (over to you Raycun...)

TRR_the_turd · 22-07-2015 11:48AM

My god, this trainig thread has just turned into reeling in the years

davedanon · 22-07-2015 11:51AM

Er, three dimensions, surely?

TRR_the_turd · 22-07-2015 12:02PM

davedanon wrote: »

Er, three dimensions, surely?

back in your day, they were obviously yet to discover irony too

davedanon · 22-07-2015 01:09PM

TRR_the_turd wrote: »

back in your day, they were obviously yet to discover irony too

Rubbish. We had loads of irony. Steely too.

It's only your generation that had everything made out of plasticky.

tang1 · 22-07-2015 02:37PM

aero2k wrote: »

You're right, but what modern kids would now regard as slave labour was looked on by us as a big adventure. We spent the whole year in Dublin looking forward to two months in the West and all that went with it - making hay, days in the bog, filling trailer with turf and then riding home on the top of the load.

In the case of the driving lessons, it was just my da trying to pass on useful life skills (and it was equal opportunity, my sisters were allowed steer the car as soon as they were big enough to sit on his knee). He was a carpenter by trade, and rather than taking the "stay away from the sharp tools" approach, it was "here, let me show you how to use that safely", and the driving lesson was more of the same.

Thats my summers more or less word for word in Connemara to, but with my grandfather & uncles. My Dad spent most of my summer childhood years serving overseas with the Army. You cant beat the bog in Connemara, and i'm good 20 years younger than you aero2k(and 20 mins).

aero2k · 22-07-2015 03:09PM

tang1 wrote: »

Thats my summers more or less word for word in Connemara to, but with my grandfather & uncles. My Dad spent most of my summer childhood years serving overseas with the Army. You cant beat the bog in Connemara, and i'm good 20 years younger than you aero2k(and 20 mins).

Don't worry tang1, growing older is easy, all it takes is patience. The speed - well that takes patience too. FWIW, my PB has improved by over 30 min in those 20 years...

yaboya1 · 22-07-2015 07:37PM

Wednesday 22nd July - 40 minutes Easy, 45 minutes Easy

Since I'm now living around half the distance away from my office than I was before, I'm going to try fit as many Duanington style doubles in as possible. I do work long shifts though, so some days I'll be just too tired for it to be realistic. Managed it today though.

A.M.
40 minutes Easy
5m @ 8:18p/m average (130bpm avg)

Still half asleep doing this, but finished, showered and ready to start work by 7:45am. Added a little bit of extra time at the end to finish the 5th mile.

Splits:

Mile 1 - 8:23
Mile 2 - 8:12
Mile 3 - 8:19
Mile 4 - 8:12
Mile 5 - 8:25

P.M.
45 minutes Easy
5.5m @ 8:13p/m average (134bpm avg)

Perfect evening for running out there. Traffic at junctions dictated my route home (I'm not one for stopping) meaning it was slightly longer than this morning's. It's also a more difficult route out of the city (as PM alluded to in his log the other day), which I imagine is the reason the HR is slightly higher.

Splits:

Mile 1 - 7:52
Mile 2 - 8:07
Mile 3 - 8:25
Mile 4 - 8:22
Mile 5 - 8:17
0.5 - 4:08

yaboya1 · 22-07-2015 07:40PM

Some traffic on here today too by the looks of it :pac:

The 70s sound great and all, but that's way before my time

aero2k · 23-07-2015 08:25AM

yaboya1 wrote: »

Some traffic on here today too by the looks of it :pac:

The 70s sound great and all, but that's way before my time

Sorry Peter, all my fault. Not having a log of my own, I've been known to behave like a cuckoo round these parts, at least until I get kicked out.:)

Back to running matters: Running along the trail from Ashtown Gate to the Furry Glen, as you pass the gate to Farmleigh, instead of following the trail you can branch slightly left across the long grass (there is a trail there too) and follow the black railings anti-clockwise to do a lap of the Ordinance Survey HQ. That's just over a mile. Or, if Farmleigh is open, it's nice to run there as well, you could go in the gate and head left for the carpark, straight up the avenue, or sharp right at the gate lodge onto the gravel path. There are toilets in the courtyard to the left of the main house, which can be handy on long runs. There are also toilets in Farmleigh Gallery, but they don't seem to like sweaty runners lowering the tone of the place there.

If you want to find out the dodgier trails, TRR will be able to help. (I'm still recovering from being abducted by himself and Krusty during a long run, which may have been at their easy pace, but certainly wasn't at mine!)

TRR_the_turd · 23-07-2015 09:44AM

aero2k wrote: »

Running along the trail from Ashtown Gate to the Furry Glen, as you pass the gate to Farmleigh, instead of following the trail you can branch slightly left across the long grass (there is a trail there too) and follow the black railings anti-clockwise to do a lap of the Ordinance Survey HQ. That's just over a mile. Or, if Farmleigh is open, it's nice to run there as well, you could go in the gate and head left for the carpark, straight up the avenue, or sharp right at the gate lodge onto the gravel path. There are toilets in the courtyard to the left of the main house, which can be handy on long runs. There are also toilets in Farmleigh Gallery, but they don't seem to like sweaty runners lowering the tone of the place there.

If you want to find out the dodgier trails, TRR will be able to help.

I haven't headed into the park for a run in months. I think I'll rectify that this weekend or sometime early next week. Good recommendations for aero2k above and I don't know of any dodgy trails in the park

yaboya1 · 23-07-2015 09:41PM

Thursday 23rd July - 40 minutes Easy
5m @ 8:05 p/m average (133bpm avg)

Another early trot into work. Not much else to say. I may not get any more miles in this week. Hoping that's not the case but time will tell. Sunday looks favourite if I do get out again.

Splits:

Mile 1 - 8:21
Mile 2 - 8:00
Mile 3 - 8:04
Mile 4 - 7:55
Mile 5 - 8:06

yaboya1 · 31-07-2015 11:44AM

Tuesday 28th July - 40 minutes Easy
5m @ 7:57 p/m average (148bpm avg)

Got no more miles in last week as suspected. Monday was also a write off. Got out for this run on Tuesday afternoon. I've been feeling pretty awful in myself the past fortnight. Majorly fatigued and short of breath any time I do run. My normal easy HR (<135bpm) had me going a ridiculously slow pace, so I decided to hit my normal easy-ish pace without looking at the HRM. The results kind of back up how I feel at the moment considering I was hitting similar paces on 9m runs uphill to Tallaght recently enough at around 125-130bpm.

Splits:

Mile 1 - 8:01
Mile 2 - 7:59
Mile 3 - 7:52
Mile 4 - 7:56
Mile 5 - 7:52

yaboya1 · 31-07-2015 11:48AM

Wednesday 29th July - 40 minutes Easy
5m @ 8:22 p/m average (137bpm avg)

Ran home from work. HR a little lower than Tuesday, but the pace was slower too. It is net uphill, but heart rate is still higher than it should be.

Splits:

Mile 1 - 8:05
Mile 2 - 8:25
Mile 3 - 8:43
Mile 4 - 8:33
Mile 5 - 8:05

yaboya1 · 31-07-2015 11:54AM

Thursday 30th July - 80 minutes Easy
10m @ 8:05 p/m average (145bpm avg)

Nice run around the PP, but again the effort was more difficult than it should have been. Definitely something amiss with me. Working too much, moving too often, not resting enough. I'm assuming it has something to do with one/all of these.

Splits:

Mile 1 - 8:09
Mile 2 - 8:02
Mile 3 - 8:26
Mile 4 - 8:04
Mile 5 - 7:57
Mile 6 - 8:20
Mile 7 - 8:08
Mile 8 - 7:54
Mile 9 - 8:08
Mile 10 - 7:42

yaboya1 · 31-07-2015 12:00PM

Friday 31st July - 90 minutes Easy
11m @ 8:10 p/m average (149bpm avg)

Met up with dublin runner for some easy miles. Time flew by in company, but again the HR is way above my usual level at this sort of pace. Not sure what I'll get done over the weekend with work, but if I still feel like I do by Tuesday I'll probably bite the bullet and go see a doctor.

Splits:

Mile 1 - 8:30
Mile 2 - 8:21
Mile 3 - 8:52
Mile 4 - 8:28
Mile 5 - 8:24
Mile 6 - 8:04
Mile 7 - 7:44
Mile 8 - 7:36
Mile 9 - 7:53
Mile 10 - 7:52
Mile 11 - 8:07

chickey2 · 31-07-2015 12:36PM

Have you checked your resting heart rate recently?
A visit to the doctor won't do any harm. Good luck with it.

yaboya1 · 31-07-2015 06:11PM

chickey2 wrote: »

Have you checked your resting heart rate recently?

I haven't actually, but I must do that.

There's definitely something wrong with me*

*I know most people already know this, but I mean physically :P

yaboya1 · 01-08-2015 07:57PM

Saturday 1st August - 45 minutes Easy
5.42m @ 8:18 p/m average (135bpm avg)

Ran home from work. Still feel terrible, but my HR is pretty much back to normal. Work that one out! Because I can't

Splits:

Mile 1 - 7:59
Mile 2 - 8:25
Mile 3 - 8:25
Mile 4 - 8:30
Mile 5 - 8:13
0.42 - 3:29

yaboya1 · 01-08-2015 09:22PM

Just to make things a bit clearer.......

(This is for me to look back on myself as a reference as much as anybody else

)

I haven't actually felt unwell lately, just like I've not got as much of an oxygen reserve within as I've had for the majority of the past few years. I've attached a picture of four oxygen tanks that may help illustrate what I'm trying to say.

The second one from the left is what I feel should be available from my lungs at my recent/current level of fitness.

The one on the extreme right is what I've felt has been available to me every time I've inhaled for the past two weeks.

Although I still felt pretty bad tonight, there was an improvement breathing wise and my lungs seemed to be almost back to normal (2nd from the right).

The one on the extreme left represents where I'd like to be when I eventually get through the entire HADD HR cycle.

Getting there (hopefully).......

yaboya1 · 02-08-2015 08:22AM

Sunday 2nd August - 45 minutes Easy
5.42m @ 8:19 p/m average (129bpm avg)

Easy run into work this morning. Saw a few eager beavers heading down to the start of the Rock 'n' Roll circa 7:00am!
HR back to normal, so maybe the doctor isn't necessary. We'll see.
Speaking of the Rock 'n' Roll, everybody gives out about what a sh*t course it is. I just realised that my run home has exactly the same profile - beginning at sea level and finishing at the top of the park. Obviously that was in reverse this morning, hence the low HR

Splits:

Mile 1 - 8:39
Mile 2 - 7:56
Mile 3 - 8:05
Mile 4 - 8:17
Mile 5 - 8:37
0.42 - 3:26

yaboya1 · 03-08-2015 06:59PM

Monday 3rd August - 65 minutes Easy
8.05 @ 8:05 p/m average (137bpm avg)

Wasn't practical for me to run into work today, which was annoying considering the beautiful morning we got. I was able to run home though, and took the scenic route to prolong it a little bit. HR was fine until I started climbing. Happy enough. Still may give the doc a visit when I finally get a day off though.

Splits:

Mile 1 - 7:49
Mile 2 - 7:49
Mile 3 - 8:11
Mile 4 - 8:01
Mile 5 - 8:16
Mile 6 - 8:14
Mile 7 - 8:05
Mile 8 - 8:12
0.05 - 0:26

yaboya1 · 04-08-2015 07:55AM

Tuesday 4th August - 40 minutes Easy
5m @ 8:06 p/m average (132bpm avg)

Handy run into work. Got absolutely soaked with the rain which you'd find hard to believe now looking out at the sunshine.

Splits:

Mile 1 - 8:20
Mile 2 - 7:43
Mile 3 - 8:00
Mile 4 - 8:06
Mile 5 - 8:20

yaboya1 · 04-08-2015 07:29PM

Tuesday 4th August (P.M.) - 35 minutes Easy
4.22m @ 8:17 p/m average (133bpm avg)

Most of this morning's route in reverse. Was talking on the phone for the guts of a mile, so only started running after that which explains the shorter distance.

Splits:

Mile 1 - 8:14
Mile 2 - 8:21
Mile 3 - 8:07
Mile 4 - 8:23
0.22 - 1:56

yaboya1 · 05-08-2015 10:15PM

Wednesday 5th August - 150 minutes Easy
18.02m @ 8:20 p/m average (145bpm avg)

Met up with Duanington for this to help the miles tick by a little quicker. He was planning 16, so I told him I'd join him and play it by ear. After a good soaking and a nice chat along the coast and through various parts of Dublin 3 & 5, we parted ways after 13.5 miles at the junction of the Clontarf/Howth roads. Considering the training I've done recently, I probably shouldn't have gone much further than this. With no conversation to distract me now, I really started to struggle. I toyed with the idea of jumping on the train at Drumcondra (15m), but eventually decided against it and ran all the way home. Despite the splits suggesting otherwise, those last three miles were a real slog. I probably should have capped it at 15. Anyway, its done.

Splits:

Mile 1 - 8:25
Mile 2 - 8:17
Mile 3 - 8:10
Mile 4 - 8:09
Mile 5 - 8:27
Mile 6 - 8:28
Mile 7 - 8:25
Mile 8 - 8:31
Mile 9 - 8:17
Mile 10 - 8:24
Mile 11 - 8:18
Mile 12 - 8:27
Mile 13 - 8:23
Mile 14 - 8:31
Mile 15 - 8:22
Mile 16 - 8:16
Mile 17 - 8:04
Mile 18 - 7:59
0.02 - 0:12

yaboya1 · 06-08-2015 06:05PM

Thursday 6th August - 40 minutes Easy
5m @ 8:08 p/m average (132bpm avg)

Another easy run home from work. Thought I'd struggle after last night but I actually felt great. Toughing out those 18 miles seems to have done me the world of good

Splits:

Mile 1 - 7:46
Mile 2 - 8:02
Mile 3 - 8:23
Mile 4 - 8:10
Mile 5 - 8:20

yaboya1 · 08-08-2015 02:05PM

Saturday 8th August - 120 minutes Easy
15.24m @ 7:53 p/m average (147bpm avg)

Arranged to join up with FBOT01 for this as part of his long run this morning. Beautiful day for it and the miles/time flew by as we chatted along the way. Didn't feel like anything close to two hours if I'm honest. We made our way out along the Royal Canal past Clonsilla, before heading back through Lucan along the banks of the Liffey. HR was steady enough until we hit the hill to take us into the PP at the Knockmaroon Gate. Hit a high of 173bpm there. The pace* gradually crept up in the second half of the run as we moved off the uneven grassy, protruding tree root trail onto the more speed friendly paths/roads. Quite happy with that. Two solid mid/long runs in a week which is a step in the right direction. Met up with Dubgal72 and the novice crew for a coffee/chat afterwards. She seemed happy with her apprentices.

Splits:

Mile 1 - 8:33
Mile 2 - 8:17
Mile 3 - 8:29
Mile 4 - 8:36
Mile 5 - 8:03
Mile 6 - 8:16
Mile 7 - 8:00
Mile 8 - 7:36
Mile 9 - 7:30
Mile 10 - 7:32
Mile 11 - 7:25
Mile 12 - 7:37
Mile 13 - 7:31
Mile 14 - 7:12
Mile 15 - 7:36
0.24 - 1:48

*FBOT01 had explained we needed to ensure the pace averaged below 8;00min/mile for the run, as TbL had refused to join us on that basis saying it would be too hot for him. I went along with this, but in truth wasn't too worried about how the running slut TbL would feel as he hasn't contacted me since his date with tang1 :pac::pac:

tang1 · 08-08-2015 02:21PM

yaboya1 wrote: »

he hasn't contacted me since his date with tang1 :pac::pac:

You should see the tex/picture messages hes sending me since looking for a second date!!

Bungy Girl · 08-08-2015 02:22PM

yaboya1 wrote: »

I went along with this, but in truth wasn't too worried about how the running slut TbL would feel as he hasn't contacted me since his date with tang1 :pac::pac:

I have it on good authority that he was on a hot date this morning. And not with tang1 either. Slapper

FBOT01 · 08-08-2015 02:44PM

tang1 wrote: »

You should see the tex/picture messages hes sending me since looking for a second date!!

No thanks :eek:

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