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A Slow Journey to Faster Times

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    So now we know what really got you hot and bothered ;)

    Maybe that's why his heart rate was so high for the pace?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Monday 6th July (P.M.) - 60 minutes Recovery
    6m @ 10:01 p/m average (116bpm)


    What has now become a regular occurrence on a Monday evening for me. Six very slow miles around the PP to aid the legs recovery. They felt like two planks of wood after two consecutive half marathons (kilo on Sunday :P) at the weekend.


    Splits:

    Mile 1 - 8:53
    Mile 2 - 10:29
    Mile 3 - 10:14
    Mile 4 - 10:29
    Mile 5 - 10:25
    Mile 6 - 9:39


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Tuesday 7th July - Rest

    Nothing like what I had originally planned. Since I was off work today, I was hoping to get a double day in. Some nice easy miles in the morning and a Steady session this evening. However having not felt fantastic last night, I woke up this morning feeling absolutely awful. High temperature, aches & pains all over, a persistent headache and feeling weak as a kitten made my mind up to knock any thoughts of a run on the head. Went back to bed after breakfast and generally put the feet up for the day. Feeling slightly better now and hopeful of completing my Steady session after work tomorrow. Here's hoping for a good night's sleep........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Wednesday 8th July - 60 minutes Steady
    8.08m @ 7:25 p/m average (155bpm)


    If it's not roasting hot, it's warm & humid and if it's not warm & humid its blowing a gale. All this is a bit of a nightmare when trying to run by HR. I felt the strong breeze out on my way home from work and knew the results of this would be all over the place. Behind me, across me, against me. I was tight for time, so only did 60 minutes and no cool down. Not sure there was any point in doing anything.


    Splits:

    W/u mile: 8:39 (126bpm)

    Mile 1 - 7:05
    Mile 2 - 7:07
    Mile 3 - 7:13
    Mile 4 - 7:28
    Mile 5 - 7:52
    Mile 6 - 7:43
    Mile 7 - 7:39
    Mile 8 - 7:15
    0.08 - 0:40


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Saturday 11th July - Marathon Des Escargots HM 1:50 pacing (1:49:16)
    13.11m @ 8:20 p/m average (143bpm)


    An opportunity to pace this event came up during the week, so I decided to take it and use as my long run. Very happy with the consistent splits (which I'll post when my Garmin comes back to life) and managed to get a few in below their target time. Nice event with a great atmosphere. Well done to all involved.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭jake1970


    Well done on the pacing Yaboya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    jake1970 wrote: »
    Well done on the pacing Yaboya.

    Cheers Jake. Nice to meet you and well done on the 10k time. Good luck with the DCM training. I'd volunteer to pace you in that if it wasn't so close to New York.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭belcarra


    Were there any balloon issues this week??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    belcarra wrote: »
    Were there any balloon issues this week??

    Yes actually :D

    I'll tell you about it when I post my report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭belcarra


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    Yes actually :D

    I'll tell you about it when I post my report.

    Aaah, so it's officially not my fault!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭ger664


    Totally confused where you in disguise today ??

    Was the balloon issue a mix up between you and the 1:40 guy ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭jake1970


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    Cheers Jake. Nice to meet you and well done on the 10k time. Good luck with the DCM training. I'd volunteer to pace you in that if it wasn't so close to New York.

    Nice to meet you too. thanks for the pacing offer, im sure you would be able to fit in a 3:20 pacing gig in DCM before New York:)
    Best of luck with your training.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    Yes actually :D

    I'll tell you about it when I post my report.

    Oh looking forward to this one already!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Killerz


    annapr wrote: »
    Oh looking forward to this one already!!!

    Can't wait :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭FBOT01


    belcarra wrote: »
    Don't forget to tell 'em about that toilet break Peter....
    Killerz wrote: »
    They were holding hands too... belcarra didn't think it was strictly necessary, but yaboya insisted
    belcarra wrote: »
    That was more to prevent his hands straying elsewhere J!;)
    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    So now we know what really got you hot and bothered ;)

    Sounds like the 1:45 pacers had a good day out......I presume you both signed up straight away for the November event ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Saturday 11th July - Marathon Des Escargots HM 1:50 pacing
    21.12km @ 5:10p/km average (1:49:16)


    Wasn't a great seven days for me mileage wise last week. With working hours and various colleagues leaving drinks, I struggled to fit a lot of running in. I did see Claude Burgundy was looking for pacers for the above event though, and knew it would fit in perfectly with my plans for the day if I could arrange it properly. When I pm'd him, he said there was still a 1:50 slot available so I thought it would fit in nicely as my long run for the week.


    Pre-Race

    I jumped on a train to Portarlington and was there about an hour before the race. I checked in, received my t-shirt and was told to come back to HQ for 11am to collect my balloon. Met jake1970 (who'd just completed the 10k) & Dilbert75 before I did that and had a quick chat with both. I returned to meet my fellow 1:50 pacer, ahead of an introduction to the other runners just ahead of going down to the start. He told me he had done the same pacing job in November and the course was relatively flat, so even splits the whole way was a good tactic. I made this 5:10min/km and adjusted the units on the Garmin as that's what the course was marked in.


    The Race

    0-5k

    We set off shortly after the advertised time of 11:15am. I settled straight into the target pace and was enjoying the perfect conditions we had been granted from the start. We had a decent enough sized group with us, some asking what time we were pacing just to make sure. I noticed early in the 5th kilometre that the pace had dropped to 5:2x. My fellow pacer seemed unperturbed with this, but I didn't want to have to make up time later so stepped it back up to what it should be. He didn't and I started to pull away from him with a few others who followed me. I didn't see him again until after the finish.


    6k-19k

    I had a nice little gang of 6/7 with me now. Pace was bang on and I couldn't figure out why the others had dropped so far behind. I took on water at each station and offered it out amongst the group. I couldn't believe we were actually 7/8k in already. I was extremely comfortable and wasn't even noticing the km's ticking by. We came across/overtook a wheelchair athlete as we scaled a tiny climb in the road, before he zoomed back past us on the other side :). Then all of a sudden - BANG! I looked around for a cramping AMK. It sounded just like the sniper that takes him out near the end of any recent distance events. But neither him nor the gunman were anywhere to be seen. It turned out my balloon had caught a thorn bush and exploded. The group I was in shared a giggle and somebody commented that they'd have to keep me within touching distance now, since the balloon was gone and it wouldn't be possible to pick me out from too far behind. I gave them a shout around 10.5k to say we were just about halfway there with around thirty seconds in the bank. Everyone seemed happy with that and a few started to kick on for home. I hoped they knew what they were doing and hadn't gone too soon. The Garmin had been bang on the kilometre markers up to this point, but around km 12/13 it started to measure 100m short. I thought I remembered reading that the course had been officially measured and assumed it would correct itself later on. I just stuck to target pace anyway. At kilometre 12, I was dropped by everyone in the group and left in no mans land. I couldn't go with them because my job was to pace 1:50 and they were all going faster than that at that stage. The next 6/7k were very lonely.


    20k - Finish

    As I ploughed my lone furrow home, I started to catch some runners who were slowing down. None of my original group yet, but I gave them a shout nonetheless to advise that I was the 1:50 pacer since the balloon was long gone. At that stage, very few of them could hang on and reluctantly let me pass. I was still coming up 100/150m short on the km markers until I passed 19k. But early in the 20th km, I saw a sign marking '2k to go' for the 10k race. The run in to the finish was the same for all races and I knew things were back on target as my watch now read 19.12k. It seems someone meaured 1k short out in the country somewhere which caused all markers after that to also measure short, until the whole thing righted itself and aligned again before 20k. As I moved into the final mile I spotted two guys from my original group slightly coming back to me. I had yet to pass anyone from my 'class' yet and was going to do my very best to ensure none of them would fail. I caught the first guy as we passed 20k. I asked was he ok and offered him a bottle of water I'd been carrying for a situation just like this. He gladly took a sup and asked how we were doing. I explained he just needed to hold my pace (no faster) and he was under. He told me he'd nothing left. I told him to just hang onto me. Getting 20.5k on target and missing out wasn't an option. 600m to go. 'Fcuk sake' he muttered. Although I felt sorry for him struggling, I knew he would do it after he said that. I just felt if he really had absolutely nothing, there's no way he would have come out with that. I kept counting it down for him each 100m, and with 200m to go told him he'd definitely be under, so he might as well pose for the cameras at the finish now. He reluctantly agreed, but then really put whatever he had left into a sprint finish. You can see the determination in his face in the race photos. There had also been a guy from the group just ahead of us, but within earshot. He seemed to focus on keeping us there so he got in under too. Two happy men when we crossed the line, along with a few more that kicked on earlier in the race and really sped up.


    Splits:

    Km 1 - 5:07
    Km 2 - 5:11
    Km 3 - 5:14
    Km 4 - 5:08
    Km 5 - 5:11
    Km 6 - 5:11
    Km 7 - 5:10
    Km 8 - 5:09
    Km 9 - 5:11
    Km 10 - 5:08
    Km 11 - 5:08
    Km 12 - 5:12
    Km 13 - 5:10
    Km 14 - 5:08
    Km 15 - 5:18
    Km 16 - 5:18
    Km 17 - 5:13
    Km 18 - 5:08
    Km 19 - 5:09
    Km 20 - 5:11
    Km 21 - 5:10
    0.12 - 0:35


    Post Race

    Had a good chat with a few of the group after the race while enjoying a cup of tea and some sandwiches/biscuits. I met my fellow pacer after the race and asked how he got on. When I looked behind me after 18/19k and saw he was so far behind (300/400m+), I was worried that anyone who had stuck with him wouldn't be under 1:50 as I'd only had 44 seconds to spare at the finish and felt he wasn't close enough. He said he got in on time, but I've since seen the results and the next finisher to me is 1:50:08 :eek:

    Headed to the Leisure Centre for a quick shower before grabbing some dinner, watching the tennis and rounding off the day with a trip to Thurles for the hurling double header. A productive day :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Tuesday 14th July - 40 minutes Easy
    5.12m @ 7:46 p/m average


    Just an early jaunt, taking in some of the PP. Hadn't got much of my running apparatus with me today. Had no HRM, no Garmin (had to borrow one) and no running socks. I now have three blisters from running barefoot in my most uncomfortable pair of runners. Guess I won't do that again!
    Threw a few strides into the final mile. Might get out again later this evening.


    Splits:

    Mile 1 - 8:18
    Mile 2 - 7:46
    Mile 3 - 7:51
    Mile 4 - 7:53
    Mile 5 - 6:51
    0.12 - 1:23


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭ger664


    That explains why a 1:50 pacer passed me in the last 2K of the marathon when I was doing 8 min Pace. Thought he was going way too fast obviously was try to make up time at that point. He had one person with him at that stage. You where obviously further up the road, we seemed to have missed each other post race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    ger664 wrote: »
    That explains why a 1:50 pacer passed me in the last 2K of the marathon when I was doing 8 min Pace. Thought he was going way too fast obviously was try to make up time at that point. He had one person with him at that stage. You where obviously further up the road, we seemed to have missed each other post race.

    I think the marathon loop was slightly different so I may not have passed you at all, or else you didn't see me because I hadn't got a balloon and wouldn't have stuck out from the crowd. Surprised I didn't see you post race though. I hung around for at least half an hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭ger664


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    I think the marathon loop was slightly different so I may not have passed you at all, or else you didn't see me because I hadn't got a balloon and wouldn't have stuck out from the crowd. Surprised I didn't see you post race though. I hung around for at least half an hour.

    I caught and passed your fellow pacer around Mile 21 in the marathon. I was doing a few 7:10 Miles MP at the time. Shortly after that I dropped the pace back to 8 Minute Mile and was just really surprised to see him overtake me before the finish. You where probably 100/200 meters ahead of me at some point around then. I hung around as well for a bit as I had 90 minute wait for my train home and I couldn't drag myself away from the custard creams. Strange:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Monday 20th July - 45 minutes Easy
    5.31m @ 8:28 p/m average (136bpm)


    Running wise, last week was a complete write off, and it's not likely to get much better this week. I'm in the process of moving home (again!), so all the time that takes up and the fuss that goes with it has really interfered with my training. On the plus side, the best running facility in the country is now literally only a mile from my doorstep :). The effects of it all have left me a bit run down lately, and although I've done no running, I've not got much rest either. The HR was higher than I'd expect for a run of tonight's pace, so I'm definitely a long way from my best. Luckily I've got 15 weeks to get there. Will get a few easy runs in this week before getting some structure back when I'm fully settled in.


    Splits (in kms as I forgot to change back since HM):

    Km 1 - 4:54
    Km 2 - 4:52
    Km 3 - 5:10
    Km 4 - 5:25
    Km 5 - 5:29
    Km 6 - 5:29
    Km 7 - 5:18
    Km 8 - 5:26
    0.55 - 2:58

    Spotted aero2k in the train station on my way to work this morning. We may meet more often now that we appear to be neighbours :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Does mean we will be seeing you at the track soon? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Does mean we will be seeing you at the track soon? :)

    You know I'm talking about the Phoenix Park right? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Back on the north side. That'll do. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Tallaght no good for you? ;)

    Just catching up- good job on the pacing. I see you have been learning from the best (not Belcarra :p). You did well to push on from the other lad when he was going too slow, sounds like he made a right pigs ear of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Tuesday 21st July - 60 minutes Easy
    7m @ 8:40 p/m average (133bpm avg)


    Had a lot of stuff on today, so delighted to get this in earlier when the weather was absolutely perfect. Took in the trail inside the perimeter wall in the PP between Ashtown and the Furry Glen. Cant believe that's the first time I've run that route. Certainly won't be the last.


    Splits:

    Mile 1 - 8:50
    Mile 2 - 8:28
    Mile 3 - 8:29
    Mile 4 - 8:44
    Mile 5 - 8:54
    Mile 6 - 8:48
    Mile 7 - 8:26


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Killerz


    Great job on the pacing, PD. Gotta trust your own experience and judgment (which is extensive at this stage). Job well done, and I think a good job pacing is equally as satisfying as a good job racing.

    Ps love the sniper ref...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭aero2k


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    Spotted aero2k in the train station on my way to work this morning. We may meet more often now that we appear to be neighbours :pac:

    Sorry Peter, I didn't recognize you with your clothes on!

    Glad to hear your in my neck of the woods. I've been living here since early '91 (probably before you were born:)) and I've only really begun to appreciate the magnificence of the PP in recent years. I grew up on the other side of the river, and as a kid on summer evenings my Da would bring me and a mate up to the park. He would actually let us drive his car on the grass (this was the 70's before kids were wrapped up in bubble wrap) and we'd have to be careful to dodge the cowsh1te while playing football - there were lots of cattle there in those days. When I moved to Ashtown I used to enjoy the frequent drives through the park and the memories they evoked, but since I got into running I appreciate the place on a whole other level. That stretch you described between Ashtown gate and the Furry Glen is magical, it's hard to believe it's so close to a bustling world outside.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    aero2k wrote: »
    . He would actually let us drive his car on the grass (this was the 70's before kids were wrapped up in bubble wrap)


    I was brought up in the 70's, but I was never allowed near my dad's car. that was a farm thing, kids driving tractors at 8 years of age, etc, and it had less to do with 'not being wrapped in bubble-wrap' than saving money by pressing the entire family into service as young as possible.


    Having said that, the 70's were great.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Sorry for the slight log hijack...

    My Da was absolutely obsessive about his car - it was always spotlessly clean inside and out, and perfectly maintained. One of my favourite childhood memories is of a holiday in the West, when he asked if I wanted to go for a drive. He had a 3 month old Chrysler Avenger, it was his pride and joy, (with the black vinyl roof, really cool back then) and I loved going for spins in it. The car was parked in my grandmother's back yard, and when I went to get in the passenger side, he said no, and pointed to the driver's door. I was 12! I actually needed a cushion so I could see over the steering wheel. I proceeded to almost demolish a stone wall - stalling prevented an expensive collision. I was expecting an angry outburst, but undeterred, he calmly said "I'll take it out of the yard for you", we swapped sides, he pulled in a mile or so up the road (the N17) and this time I managed to drive, for about 8 miles. He'd tell me when to change gear, and give the odd touch on the steering wheel. I had driven a tractor before, but they were pretty simple in those days, and more immune to scratches and knocks.

    I'm getting all nostalgic now, must be getting old....


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