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Please tell me this is an April Fools joke? (Council House 'swap')

  • 29-07-2015 09:30PM
    #1
    JohnCleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,211 ✭✭✭✭


    https://www.donedeal.ie/houseswaps-for-sale/council-house-swap-transfer-new-photos/9742634 - spotted on Facebook.

    So not only are people getting houses for next to nothing (or nothing? Not certain, never been so lucky to find out), but now you can 'swap'... so essentially you can move around the country as if you're in a holiday home. Wonder how the cnuts would collect their welfare? Or can they 'swap' the Post Office they pick it up at too?

    Sometimes I feel like just quitting and joining them :mad:


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  • #2
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Surely the Council facilitate them in swapping, if they want to?

    If not, why not?

    People usually have very good reasons for moving to a new part of the country: new job, new opportunities, or avoiding bad memories or bad relationships.

    So people do a swap with the council's permission. Who loses ?


  • #3
    When the Sun Hits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭When the Sun Hits


    No, it's not an April fools joke. We're in July.


  • #4
    Samaris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Wonder how the cnuts would collect their welfare? Or can they 'swap' the Post Office they pick it up at too?

    God, what is it with people who, on seeing anything they don't like, and usually to do with crime or anything "low class" immediately decide that the person involved is a slacker on the dole? It's bloody depressing. This is the third thread with some off-hand nasty comment about ho the culprit is -obviously- a dole-bird.


  • #5
    myshirt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Have seen these before, they are very real. Often involve money my way money your way type deals, there's certainly an active market.

    Also, please don't hammer some of the poorest, it's not classy at all.


  • #6
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,037 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    At least they have kept their council house in very nice condition.
    I'd have more issues with the scumbags who pull rads off walls and burn the floor boards for heat in winter time then complain to the council that the property is not good enough.


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  • #7
    JohnCleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,211 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Samaris wrote: »
    God, what is it with people who, on seeing anything they don't like, and usually to do with crime or anything "low class" immediately decide that the person involved is a slacker on the dole? It's bloody depressing. This is the third thread with some off-hand nasty comment about ho the culprit is -obviously- a dole-bird.

    Because I had to pay for my house, these layabouts didn't.

    I'm just jealous, tbh.


  • #8
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I don't understand what your problem with this is OP. It's not like they're looking to move to a mansion in Dalkey


  • #9
    Justice4Adolf
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 52 ✭✭Justice4Adolf


    Is anyone elses thoughts traveling in the direction mine are.

    Estate of Fifteen.
    Bungalow.
    Council.


  • #10
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/houseswaps-for-sale/council-house-swap-transfer-new-photos/9742634 - spotted on Facebook.

    So not only are people getting houses for next to nothing (or nothing? Not certain, never been so lucky to find out), but now you can 'swap'... so essentially you can move around the country as if you're in a holiday home. Wonder how the cnuts would collect their welfare? Or can they 'swap' the Post Office they pick it up at too?

    Sometimes I feel like just quitting and joining them :mad:

    I am better than thou. You most definitely have a grudge about anyone unemployed calling them cnuts. You have a very nasty way of expressing yourself to your fellow human being.

    It's called a housing need little feller.


  • #11
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Because I had to pay for my house, these layabouts didn't.

    I'm just jealous, tbh.
    Manys a hardworking skin lives in a council house, manys a layabout lives in a private house.


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  • #12
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭pablo128


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Because I had to pay for my house, these layabouts didn't.

    I'm just jealous, tbh.

    I'm in a council apartment. I work, and my partner works part time. We don't earn enough to get a mortgage. We pay rent as a percentage of our income.

    What is your opinion of me?

    By the way, not one person who rents their home, has paid for it.


  • #13
    Cold War Kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    Housing transfers have always been standard protocols by local authorities. Not sure what the issue is. The very attraction of a swap is that nobody's losing something or gaining something they shouldn't. The cost will remain the same. They still have to find people who'll agree to swap too - and they may not.

    Although if this is something the people are organising by themselves without applying to the local authority for a transfer, then it's obviously not the brightest of them to put it on Done Deal - but that's unlikely (hopefully).

    Lots of people who are housed by the local authority can't afford private rent and are also working - considering how difficult a lot of council estates can be to live in, it's very unlikely to be a choice. I wouldn't feel lucky to have to live in a hard-as-nails estate. I don't know would you really want to quit and join them.


  • #14
    eternal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    Why don't you live on your motor yacht?


  • #15
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Because I had to pay for my house, these layabouts didn't.

    I'm just jealous, tbh.

    Go swap with one of them in the council house then ? While you are at it go sign on the dole as everyone is living it up :P


  • #16
    JohnCleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,211 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I don't understand what you're problem with this is OP. It's not like they're looking to move to a mansion in Dalkey

    I have a problem with our too generous welfare state, full stop.

    I have travelled many parts of the world. In the majority of these countries, if you don't go out and work... you die. Yet here, you can choose not to work and you get a (quite basic, but not too shabby) lifestyle handed to you.

    It sickens me. Get up off your hole, and you WILL find work (or may even come up with a bright idea yourself)

    I am sick of seeing first hand 'lone parents' getting council houses, living with their partner (also on the dole) and coming in with quite a generous cash sum at the end of the week. And also people on 'disability'... doesn't stop them going out on the lash on a regular basis or going on foreign holidays.

    And yes, all of the above is first hand information. I just can't bring myself to report them :mad:


  • #17
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    I have a problem with our too generous welfare state, full stop.

    I have travelled many parts of the world. In the majority of these countries, if you don't go out and work... you die. Yet here, you can choose not to work and you get a (quite basic, but not too shabby) lifestyle handed to you.

    It sickens me. Get up off your hole, and you WILL find work (or may even come up with a bright idea yourself)

    I am sick of seeing first hand 'lone parents' getting council houses, living with their partner (also on the dole) and coming in with quite a generous cash sum at the end of the week. And also people on 'disability'... doesn't stop them going out on the lash on a regular basis or going on foreign holidays.

    And yes, all of the above is first hand information. I just can't bring myself to report them :mad:

    Go sign on the dole then if it's so great.


  • #18
    JohnCleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,211 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    eternal wrote: »
    Why don't you live on your motor yacht?

    I do, on the weekends between April - September... as you would have read on the other thread.

    But what difference does that make?


  • #19
    JohnCleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,211 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Go sign on the dole then if it's so great.

    I wouldn't dare be such a liability to society, tbh.


  • #20
    eternal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    They don't hand out houses. It takes years even if you've loads of kids to get located. Have you seen the housing crisis in the country? Ill informed comments and snobbery reeks off this thread.


  • #21
    professore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭professore


    Poverty in modern Ireland


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  • #22
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    I wouldn't dare be such a liability to society, tbh.

    So that's a no to they are living it up.


  • #23
    JohnCleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,211 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    eternal wrote: »
    They don't hand out houses. It takes years even if you've loads of kids to get located. Have you seen the housing crisis in the country? Ill informed comments and snobbery reeks off this thread.


    Or just someone who is happy to go our and earn their keep, instead of going to the state for handouts.


  • #24
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    eternal wrote: »
    They don't hand out houses. It takes years even if you've loads of kids to get located. Have you seen the housing crisis in the country? Ill informed comments and snobbery reeks off this thread.

    I hear they get sky sports free to, And leave buggies at bus stops as they will just be given an new one. You can tell elections are coming up.


  • #25
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Or just someone who is happy to go our and earn their keep, instead of going to the state for handouts.

    Then I take it one will give back the children's allowance then if they had children ?


  • #26
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    I have a problem with our too generous welfare state, full stop.

    I have travelled many parts of the world. In the majority of these countries, if you don't go out and work... you die. Yet here, you can choose not to work and you get a (quite basic, but not too shabby) lifestyle handed to you.

    It sickens me. Get up off your hole, and you WILL find work (or may even come up with a bright idea yourself)

    I am sick of seeing first hand 'lone parents' getting council houses, living with their partner (also on the dole) and coming in with quite a generous cash sum at the end of the week. And also people on 'disability'... doesn't stop them going out on the lash on a regular basis or going on foreign holidays.

    And yes, all of the above is first hand information. I just can't bring myself to report them :mad:

    You do know that stress is a killer don't you. Just don't think about what other folks are doing and just focus on bettering your-own situation is the best way with no stress of thinking about things like this if they hurt you mentally. There's more to life than crying over other folks lifestyles of difficulty.


  • #27
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Word bingo for this thread

    "Squeezed middle"
    "Entitlement"
    "Hard-pressed PAYE worker"
    "mug"
    "welfare state"
    "taken for a ride"
    "52% tax rate" (that's the bonus ball)

    Everything else is just filling in the gaps.


  • #28
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    I have a problem with our too generous welfare state, full stop.

    I have travelled many parts of the world. In the majority of these countries, if you don't go out and work... you die. Yet here, you can choose not to work and you get a (quite basic, but not too shabby) lifestyle handed to you.

    It sickens me. Get up off your hole, and you WILL find work (or may even come up with a bright idea yourself)

    I am sick of seeing first hand 'lone parents' getting council houses, living with their partner (also on the dole) and coming in with quite a generous cash sum at the end of the week. And also people on 'disability'... doesn't stop them going out on the lash on a regular basis or going on foreign holidays.

    And yes, all of the above is first hand information. I just can't bring myself to report them :mad:
    That's a very good dole-bashing rant and all, but what's it got to do with a council house swap?


  • #29
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    You do know that stress is a killer don't you. Just don't think about what other folks are doing and just focus on bettering your-own situation is the best way with no stress of thinking about things like this if they hurt you mentally. There's more to life than crying over other folks lifestyles of difficulty.

    I think the op has a problem with people on the dole working or doing criminal activity. As just being on the dole does not allow you this lifestyle that's being mentioned. But lets just say it's everyone on the minimum dole payments that are taking holidays every other couple of months. :pac:


  • #30
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Greed is not good for a person, it detaches you from your obligations to be a good human being. Enjoy the yacht experience and the pina coladas in the warm ocean breeze. OP, you worry too much.


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  • #31
    Cold War Kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    I have a problem with our too generous welfare state, full stop.

    I have travelled many parts of the world. In the majority of these countries, if you don't go out and work... you die. Yet here, you can choose not to work and you get a (quite basic, but not too shabby) lifestyle handed to you.

    It sickens me. Get up off your hole, and you WILL find work (or may even come up with a bright idea yourself)

    I am sick of seeing first hand 'lone parents' getting council houses, living with their partner (also on the dole) and coming in with quite a generous cash sum at the end of the week. And also people on 'disability'... doesn't stop them going out on the lash on a regular basis or going on foreign holidays.

    And yes, all of the above is first hand information. I just can't bring myself to report them :mad:
    I understand your annoyance at people taking the piss out of state assistance (although you don't seem to acknowledge the numerous people who genuinely need it) but a housing transfer seems a strange thing to get annoyed about - it's nothing extra.


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