Cork GAA Discussion Thread

willietherock wrote: »

This is hilarious. The players were massively found out yet again at this level. The majority of players that played tonight are not related to top senior intercounty footballlers. The utter inability to kick a football are criminal. Cubby is gone but who ever comes in will be stuck with the same dross to pick from, a handful of exceptions aside.

You should report it to the Guards so.

Cop on to yourself - that's a disgraceful way to behave.

The White Feather wrote: »

Cahalane seems to be a very timid type player but he gets himself sent off with a flick of a hurley and his wrist.

the ref was completely wrong to book him for that, he's allowed play the ball with his hurl and it's up to his opponent to protect his hand if he's going to catch

Not sure about bringing O'Neill back if Cadogan was not going to play bring in another forward like for like rather than change the defence which has done well last few matches especially Walsh at half back with Ellis sweeping and cooper at midfield seems a strange call to me will be interesting to see whether they line out as selected-

what I said yesterday

Unfortunately we looked all at sea from the first minute and the goal I do not know why we did not stick to the shape which has won us the last two games cooper, Cahalane, Lawton, Ellis all looked lost such a shame for the season to go like that without a fight

Hidalgo wrote: »

Whilst true you'd have to now wonder if JBM has brought this group as far as he can and is a new voice now needed?

Cork needs new voice now and jbm over achieved cork and made them better were when he joined but Cork need tactical manager

fair play to JBM for having the grace and courtesy to face the cameras and not react to that stupid ****ing question p.s. RTE this is not premiership soccer, would ye do it to a rugby manager?
His example is in stark contrast to the football management who couldn't stay out of the media after the flash in the pan draw in killareny but are now gone to ground........a reflection on them

dirtyden wrote: »

She is an awful interviewer.

Two stock questions really.

The winners get asked have they answered their critics and the loser are they going to resign. She has the subtlety and tact of a pitbull.

That's as may be - but she asked the question that was going through the mind of everyone watching. JBM was vulnerable and raw and possibly in shock - however, I thought the question was valid.

sean mac wrote: »

fair play to JBM for having the grace and courtesy to face the cameras and not react to that stupid ****ing question p.s. RTE this is not premiership soccer, would ye do it to a rugby manager?
His example is in stark contrast to the football management who couldn't stay out of the media after the flash in the pan draw in killareny but are now gone to ground........a reflection on them

He said he couldn't wait for next year - he didn't say he was staying on :-|

Struck me as a man who'd had enough !

I don't post too often but enjoy reading everyone's opinions. In relation to the hurling, I said after the Munster Chanpionships defeat to Waterford that we really didn't have the players and I was not convinced there is any other hurling messiah out there internal or external to make it all come right. JBM said it today in that interview when he said that possibly we don't have the calibre of player. I agree that possibly he needed to do tactics more, but in my view, tactics and blanket defence in particular is something teams do when they don't have the players good enough to do what they should be doing. At the end of the day, all tactics go out the window if players are not good enough and committed enough to beat their man. In conceding the first goal today, tactics or no tactics, it was simply awful defending. Where we are today is as a consequence of years of lack of success at underage level. I grew up in the sixties when it was a given that Cork almost yearly contested All Ireland finals in both codes. JBM owes Cork nothing but be careful of messiahs and people that have all the answers. I have no doubt that JBM is look forward to next year as being a year of peace and quiet without the hassle of trying to resurrect Cork Hurling. I do think however that he should have a role to play going forward at some level given his record and the respect he has. As regards the football, we should have the players given our underage successes to at least compete, it seems to be that this is a management issue. I think Cork football always had a psychology issue and it needed someone in the past like Billy Morgan who was a force of nature to deal with it. I think we could do with an outside manager, if all these Kerry fellas are concerned about us, maybe they might help us! Certainly, I think someone like Jack O'Connor could help to sort us out. Or how about Tomas O'Shea, certainly one for the future. Finally, I believe Cork will come good again, there are no simple answers but good planning, organisation and hard work.

We don't have the players,it's as simple as that.We are about the fifth or sixth best team in the country.KK,Tipp,Galway and Waterford are ahead of us.We need another golden generation like the one of Ronan Curran,John Gardiner,the O' Connor twins and Joe Deane. We'll win an All-Ireland again but I don't know when.Ten years now since the last one.

keep going wrote: »

What we need is a strike, that great idea that changed cork gaa for ever and now we are reaping the rewards

Strike off to bed will you.

Poor display tonight. JBM went back to 15 vs 15 after winning the last 2 games playing with a sweeper. When I mentioned he wasn't going with a sweeper earlier in the week I was rubbished for listening to 'pubtalk'. Some players aren't up to it as was shown tonight. If Cuthbert did what JBM did & changed a winning formula he would be hounded but all I can see is people praising him for the way he handled his interview. he's saying now we don't have the calibre of player, should he first ask do we have the calibre of management that will stick by his squad who 2 wks ago gave 'superhuman' effort.

youngbob wrote: »

Poor display tonight. JBM went back to 15 vs 15 after winning the last 2 games playing with a sweeper. When I mentioned he wasn't going with a sweeper earlier in the week I was rubbished for listening to 'pubtalk'. Some players aren't up to it as was shown tonight. If Cuthbert did what JBM did & changed a winning formula he would be hounded but all I can see is people praising him for the way he handled his interview. he's saying now we don't have the calibre of player, should he first ask do we have the calibre of management that will stick by his squad who 2 wks ago gave 'superhuman' effort.

Cork 100% used Ellis as sweeper until about 10 mins into the 2nd half when we were chasing the game. It was the same system as before.