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DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread
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take_yer_points wrote: »Thanks FBOT01 - I didn't realise there was a graduates thread, just noticed the novice DCM thread and jumped in with both feet. I'm not a regular round here but could be for the next few months now.
RE: the long runs, it's a 16 week plan with next week the fourth. So it increases as below (all at steady pace except week 15 which is slow). I only went as far as 20 miles once for Belfast so doing more this time.
As for the body holding up, only one way to find out. I'm feeling perfect so far and like I said in the initial post, I could actually do with slowing up a bit.
Week 4: 12 miles
Week 5: 13 miles (including 4 miles fast)
Week 6: 8 miles
Week 7: 14 miles (including 4 miles fast) - planning half marathon this week
Week 8: 16 miles (including 4 miles fast)
Week 9: 18 miles (including 5 miles fast)
Week 10: 10 miles
Week 11: 20 miles (including 5 miles fast)
Week 12: 14 miles - planning Belfast half marathon this week
Week 13: 20 miles (including 5 miles fast)
Week 14: 13 miles (including 4 miles fast)
Week 15: 6 miles
There is more information and threads around here than you could ever possibly digest or get through if have any kind of outside life or have one year old twins
I have to confess I have never visited any of the Graduate Threads but know they are there somewhere.
I actually did my first two marathons using the FIRST programme and a tweaked version of it which follows the "run fast run less" philosophy and pretty much hit my targets on both occasions but I found the post race effects and recovery time much greater with that approach than the higher mileage slower running endurance building approach I have followed since. Point is that there are plenty of ways to skin the marathon so if the current one is working for you then keep at it.
Look forward to seeing how you progress.0 -
I created a Strava map of the route. It's off by about half a mile so I'll try to fix it later. I've added it to the Strava group page.
Sweet baby cheeses, just popped it into my calendar.
Starting at 9.30am, then I went to put in a time for ending at and realised that even if it all goes according to plan I'll only be finished at 2pm!! Biiiiiig dose of reality right there.
But thanks Chrislad! I think 0 -
Sweet baby cheeses, just popped it into my calendar.
Starting at 9.30am, then I went to put in a time for ending at and realised that even if it all goes according to plan I'll only be finished at 2pm!! Biiiiiig dose of reality right there.
But thanks Chrislad! I think
Ah, but then we go to the pub, have one drink and be hammered by 3pm! Result!0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »There better be someone standing at the finish line with a punt of guinness in their each hand when I cross that line! FYP!! 0
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Really had to drag my ass out of the house tonight to do my 7 mile run. Last thing I wanted to do. Just checked my plan and saw I only had to do six miles. Sickened. I even ran up and down the road outside my estate a few times to make up the last mile. LIKE A FOOL!! Now for a glass of wine and pizza...
Ha ha, check with Dubgal if that means you can do a mile less on your LSR 0 -
Deleted User wrote: »Guys did I read in here that long slow runs should be on the flat? Or did I just make that up in my head?
I guess you made that up ...
Did you look at the route Chrislad created on Strava? There's quite some hills en-route, especially at the start. Best to get some hill training in! 0 -
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I guess you made that up ...
Did you look at the route Chrislad created on Strava? There's quite some hills en-route, especially at the start. Best to get some hill training in!
I ran some of those hills for my LSR on Sunday. The route is definitely hilly!
I found it tough going but I'm glad I did it so they aren't a surprise anymore! I'm familiar with most of the course, living in the city centre, but never ventured that far out before. I'm glad I get the chance to practice it! 0 -
Great stuff PJD . Can I suggest that you make it two groups to accommodate the different plans? Perhaps one group for the 14mile boards plan and another for the 12 mile HHN1?
There is generally one rule for these types of run i.e., no one runs alone. Within these groups I imagine there will be different paces so I'll be happy to volunteer to stay with anyone struggling in the 12 mile group in such a case. Maybe another boardsie or two would be able to do the same for the 14 mile group?[/QUOTE]
I'd be happy to jump in from around mile 7, ( isn't that when the fun starts ) but no doubt there'll be a few more experienced boardies around too.
I could give you a digout on this firedance but it's all wildly dependant on house move. I'd still be hoping to squeeze some runs in even with the move, might check in a bit closer and see how you and DG are fixed.0 -
I guess you made that up ...
Did you look at the route Chrislad created on Strava? There's quite some hills en-route, especially at the start. Best to get some hill training in!
Yeh I know the route, that's why I was double checking about the flat runs. I often make things up in my head fully sure they're true >.>
I have a lovely run over Killiney hill and down by Dalkey and dunlaoghaire that I love so I'm going to start that from this weekend and add bits to it some weeks as the miles increase, nice and hilly 0 -
Really had to drag my ass out of the house tonight to do my 7 mile run. Last thing I wanted to do. Just checked my plan and saw I only had to do six miles. Sickened. I even ran up and down the road outside my estate a few times to make up the last mile. LIKE A FOOL!! Now for a glass of wine and pizza...
LOL - I did the exact same thing last night but did two miles extra!!! I was looking at next Wednesday's run... Does this mean I get to do 2M less next Wednesday?? 0 -
I guess you made that up ...
Did you look at the route Chrislad created on Strava? There's quite some hills en-route, especially at the start. Best to get some hill training in!
It's not fair. All the uphills go on for miles, and all the downhills are over in less than half a mile, apart from the last one, which is handy as I'll be rolling at that stage!0 -
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Good call there EK, anything that doesn't go away as you run, or even gets worse needs to be seen to. Keep monitoring and fingers crossedeyeball kid wrote: »Got out for an easy run this evening to see how my calf is holding up after Tuesday and it seemed ok. Did the first 4km at my easy pace but could still feel it slightly. Dropped the pace to my lsr for the next 5km and it held up well, thankfully. Going to try the lsr on Saturday and see how it goes. If it gets bad at any stage then I'll bail on the run and try and see a physio.
You'll get thereThis Fat Girl Runs wrote: »I went for my second Garmin-less run tonight. I still wore it but turned it around on my wrist and covered up all but the mile counter.
Looking at the results I realised I'm really bad at judging my own pace! A couple of times I caught myself tuning out and my mind drifting and I wasn't paying much attention to my running. Not good! My splits were wildly inconsistent; fastest mile was 14:05 (mile 2 and 3) and my slowest was 14:55!
I guess me and my body still need some work in the ole communication department! Did you see the Naked Running Game post? Have a go and let me know how you get on
Ah see Mrs Mc's post belowDeleted User wrote: »Guys did I read in here that long slow runs should be on the flat? Or did I just make that up in my head?
HeheReally had to drag my ass out of the house tonight to do my 7 mile run. Last thing I wanted to do. Just checked my plan and saw I only had to do six miles. Sickened. I even ran up and down the road outside my estate a few times to make up the last mile. LIKE A FOOL!! Now for a glass of wine and pizza...
It's late..you're off the hook....for nowDear Dubgal, I have a confession to make...it's been many decades since my last one.
Last night I took part in 5K race with my club at a track meet, I did a mile warm up before hand and half a mile afterwards as a cool down plus stretching. My 5K time was 23:40 (nearly a minute over my PB) and I came last in the race having been lapped 3 times by the leaders. It was tough to stay going but I was happy I did as a few dropped out. Very different running on the track and I only did it as an opportunity to run on a track to be honest. Please forgive me!
Today I ran 4 miles at lunch time following the near nude rules and it went well. avg pace was 10:58 and I was at this pace the first time I checked my watch and held the same.
This evening I had a 3 mile jog with some club mates after a photoshoot to promote our club race next weekend, 11:14 was the average pace and was plenty of conversation going on so the effort was low.
I hope I am not in too much trouble for my actions and debated mentioning the race here but said I might as well be honest. I hope the penance you give me is not too bad. On a serious note, a club mate of mine got a nasty strain on the inside hip two weeks before the marathon last year from doing strides on the track...repetitive hip strain, so be careful with the track work lads. Avoid the inside lane and where possible, reverse direction every few laps.
No harm in testing it out tomorrow, but gently. I'll copy a useful post I read earlier for you, *back in a bit*I'm ready for a spanking here from the big boss.....after my treadmill exertions yesterday I could fell a slight strain in the groin area today, so I didn't run the 5k scheduled.
Should I try do the run tomorrow morning or just forget about it and wait until Saturday for the LSR?
I'm gonna be in Dublin on Saturday and plan to run the Phoenix park section if the course while I can!
Thanks Mrs Mc, I knew there was a post somewhere re this!Hey whoopsa this is a copy of a reply from FBOT01 a few pages back about inclines on LSR's ....LSR runs generally serve two main purposes the first being to provide time on your feet. The second being to train for race day conditions including trying to ensure that your long run terrain reflects what you will experience on race day. As DCM has a number of steady drags it would be useful to work similar inclines/drags into your long runs. DCM does not have any serious hills so nothing extreme is required here..... 0 -
Deleted User wrote: »Yeh I know the route, that's why I was double checking about the flat runs. I often make things up in my head fully sure they're true >.>
I have a lovely run over Killiney hill and down by Dalkey and dunlaoghaire that I love so I'm going to start that from this weekend and add bits to it some weeks as the miles increase, nice and hilly
Hey whoopsa - I know these routes, and felt their wrath many times The views make up for the pain somewhat.... I might see you there! 0 -
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Is anyone else having to bend plans to fit around life? I do a lot of travelling but I do my best. I need to settle down though with one. I've been flip flopping way too much!
My life is my biggest problem when it comes to this marathon. I'm seriously busy as it is, without adding all this extra running in!
It'd be great to take the next few months off work to train. Hmmmm....wonder what my boss would think of that idea 0 -
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