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Mum on the Run
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Bungy Girl wrote: »Wow, I'd be following in hallowed footsteps in that case. I'm not worthy
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I'm looking forward to giving these a bash. There's some variety in there anyway that'll keep it interesting. See you Sunday
. Unless you're going to the Morton Games in which case I will see you Friday 
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am also going to Morton on Friday, was just going to post a question on the thread about tickets, you can pay on the night but am wondering whether it'd be safer to buy in advance...will it be jammers/full d'ya think?0 -
Bungy Girl wrote: »Third time lucky for you so!
10 miler was 2012 just before I did my back in so I'd say I'd be a bit quicker now but won't have a chance to do a race before the half. Closest will be a 10K 2 weeks before, not sure if that's much use as a predictor ?
For me the problem with the half is the fear of the unknown in that I've never come close to the required pace for that distance. I've done so many 5Ks they are familiar territory and don't really hold any trepidation for me. The half on the other hand.....:eek:
7:33.43 min/mi pace....sure you'll be practically jogging compared to your 10k and 5k paces :pac: Seriously, you are capable of one mile flat out 'in or around' six minutes so I think you will (pleasantly) surprise yourself come September after all this base building. I think you will also benefit hugely from training without racing so often. No harm in having a healthy respect for the distance for sure, it won't be easy, but I think it is more within your grasp than you give yourself credit.0 -
Bungy Girl wrote: »Wow, I'd be following in hallowed footsteps in that case. I'm not worthy !
I'm looking forward to giving these a bash. There's some variety in there anyway that'll keep it interesting. See you Sunday. Unless you're going to the Morton Games in which case I will see you Friday .
No, can't make Friday 
seriously not happy about it but I have a set in stone dinner date with a friend over from London. Not the kind of friend that would appreciate a potentially cold and shivery Morton stadium on a Friday night...even with a bribe of fit bodies and cans from Centra.... 0 -
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No, can't make Friday seriously not happy about it but I have a set in stone dinner date with a friend over from London. Not the kind of friend that would appreciate a potentially cold and shivery Morton stadium on a Friday night...even with a bribe of fit bodies and cans from Centra....
That's a shame. Sunday it is so!
What's not to love about freezing in the bleachers with a tepid can of Heino
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7:33.43 min/mi pace....sure you'll be practically jogging compared to your 10k and 5k paces :pac: Seriously, you are capable of one mile flat out 'in or around' six minutes so I think you will (pleasantly) surprise yourself come September after all this base building. I think you will also benefit hugely from training without racing so often. No harm in having a healthy respect for the distance for sure, it won't be easy, but I think it is more within your grasp than you give yourself credit.Completely agree. BG, you are talking yourself into fearing the HM... The base building will increase endurance, you already have the speed. All going well, you should be well within reach of that A goal.
Thanks for the vote of confidence, it's appreciated. I've to do 15 mins at 1 hour pace tonight (<7:30) so will see how that goes first :rolleyes:. I was hoping to have the Flabs conquered by then too but the consultant was worse than useless so it's back to experimenting with potential triggers and trying to manage it again myself. One thing I think will help will be to run the half course as a LSR before the base building is up. 0 -
Bungy Girl wrote: »Thanks for the vote of confidence, it's appreciated. I've to do 15 mins at 1 hour pace tonight (<7:30) so will see how that goes first :rolleyes:. I was hoping to have the Flabs conquered by then too but the consultant was worse than useless so it's back to experimenting with potential triggers and trying to manage it again myself. One thing I think will help will be to run the half course as a LSR before the base building is up.
yep would totally agree with that and it will eradicate your 1/2 distance daemons while you're at it!! I totally understand why the fear is there but you will sort that between now and then with the work you are putting in.
has the flabs been flaring up again?0 -
Bungy Girl wrote: »Thanks for the vote of confidence, it's appreciated. I've to do 15 mins at 1 hour pace tonight (<7:30) so will see how that goes first :rolleyes:. I was hoping to have the Flabs conquered by then too but the consultant was worse than useless so it's back to experimenting with potential triggers and trying to manage it again myself. One thing I think will help will be to run the half course as a LSR before the base building is up.
Bummer so it's not the gall bladder? That was what you suspected wasn't it?
And yes, definitely run it as a lsr in fact, give me a shout when you're doing it. It really is a decent course, there's just a biatch of a last mile but you can hold a bit back for that. If you haven't killed yourself early on (like I did last year), it's actually not that hard or long at the end. 0 -
yep would totally agree with that and it will eradicate your 1/2 distance daemons while you're at it!! I totally understand why the fear is there but you will sort that between now and then with the work you are putting in.
Makes sense! Cheers for that.has the flabs been flaring up again?
No, as it usually only appears when racing. I just kinda know it's still lurking if that makes sense ? I'm just a bit concerned it'll blow up if/when I'm pushing it during the half. But no point in worrying about stuff that hasn't happened. 0 -
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Bummer so it's not the gall bladder? That was what you suspected wasn't it?
Yup, it ain't the GB. Consultant could tell me what it wasn't but not what it is/might be :rolleyes:And yes, definitely run it as a lsr in fact, give me a shout when you're doing it. It really is a decent course, there's just a biatch of a last mile but you can hold a bit back for that. If you haven't killed yourself early on (like I did last year), it's actually not that hard or long at the end.
Cool, will do. It'll probably be around mid/end August once I've built up to 2 hours LSR. Would be great to have company for it.0 -
Bungy Girl wrote: »Makes sense! Cheers for that.
No, as it usually only appears when racing. I just kinda know it's still lurking if that makes sense ? I'm just a bit concerned it'll blow up if/when I'm pushing it during the half. But no point in worrying about stuff that hasn't happened.
No there certainly is not! having said that if you could find the cause & eliminate it, it won't be on your mind pre race.. The Lakes will help with that especially if it doesn't flare up at that.0 -
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Bungy Girl wrote: »Third time lucky for you so!
10 miler was 2012 just before I did my back in so I'd say I'd be a bit quicker now but won't have a chance to do a race before the half. Closest will be a 10K 2 weeks before, not sure if that's much use as a predictor ?
For me the problem with the half is the fear of the unknown in that I've never come close to the required pace for that distance. I've done so many 5Ks they are familiar territory and don't really hold any trepidation for me. The half on the other hand.....:eek:
Well someone with more expertise might like to chime in here but for me that kind of trepidation gets put to bed by plenty of training at the required pace (or faster) - i.e. the LT and VO2Max sessions in the Pfitzinger plan. What kind of training is happening after your base phase stuff?0 -
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Monday – Easy
Just laps of the park. Nothing of note to report.- 4 miles @ 8:59 (grass, path) incl. 6 x 20 sec strides
Tuesday – Easy
It turned into a really nice sunny evening just as I was heading out for this (having got drowned in a summer shower 30 mins earlier). Took in an undulating route from Griffith Park up towards DCU, did a lap of ‘Albo’
and then along Griffith Avenue where I did the strides.- 4 miles @ 8:53 (path, undulating) incl. 6 x 20 sec strides
Wednesday – S&C, Easy run incl. 15 mins @ 1 hour pace
Pilates class (tough!), followed by the first bit of sustained speed in over 3 weeks :eek:. Plan called for 15 minutes at ‘one hour effort’ in the course of a medium run, which this week is 7 miles. After doing some sums I came up with a range of 7:15-7:30 for the 1 hour pace and then mapped out a route in advance to ensure that particular segment would be flat and with the prevailing wind behind me. Did 3 and a bit miles easy around Clontarf, then just over 2 miles at pace, with the balance done into the wind, on grass, back down the promenade. The paced segment felt manageable but tough, maybe I’ve forgotten how to run any way but easy. I also need to remember to turn off the auto lap on the Garmin for this sort of session to save unnecessary calculations after the fact. I almost talked myself out of going to the gym but went in the end as I had to pass the entrance anyway :rolleyes:. Just did about 25 mins, 2 sets. Walked home and had a massive dinner. Still hungry.- 7 miles @ 8:38 average (path, grass, mainly flat) incl. 15 mins @ 7:26
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Hi BG. Good training going on here. I was wondering if you would like to share your base building plan? If I ever get back running again, i'd like a plan to work off for the first few months of rebuilding my base so wouldn't mind a peek at yours to see if it would suit me?
Hi RR, good to hear from you. Probably handiest to share via email so just PM your address. I have 2 plans that might help, one I used when starting back from scratch after the disc injury and the other is the framework and advice Clearlier gave me for increasing mileage/base building to a new level.
Where are you at currently with the comeback ?
P.S. Be aware there is zero racing allowed ! Nada, not even a sprint for the bus :eek:. Can you handle it ? 0 -
Thursday – REST
Unplanned and out of my control ! Luckily I still had a rest day in hand for the week so just swapped this with Saturday. Took advantage of the free gaff and the remote control and watched 'Unbreakable: Western States 100', a documentary about the 2010 race. Inspiring stuff. Almost made me want to run 100 miles. But not quite.
Friday – 90 mins LSR incl 20 mins @ 2 hour effort/pace
Strictly speaking the paced segment should be part of the other medium run of the week (Sunday’s in this case) but since that’s designated a social run, I decided it would be far more sociable of me to get this out of the way today and not break into tempo on a cliff edge somewhere between Greystones and Bray. Did a few more calculations which suggested 7:45 – 8:00 min/mile pace would be about right for a 2 hour effort. Headed to St.Anne’s via Howth Road and started the segment outside the gates on Sybill Hill Road to include the middle section of the Raheny 5 route. Even though the pace felt steady and the effort about right the Garmin was showing anything from 8:30 to 7:05 anytime I looked at it and it didn’t really settle throughout the 20 minutes. So it wasn’t much help and the pace ended up slightly faster than it should have been (although the route I chose was net downhill so that would account for it I suppose). Could I have kept the effort for 2 hours ? Probably. Whether I’d want to is a different question :eek:. Felt good to let loose a bit on this. Was much easier than the 1 hour effort on Wedneday. Still had 45 mins to go after the paced segment so completed the full Raheny 5 loop then home the same way with an extra loop to make up the 90 minutes.- 90:00 (10.5 miles) @ 8:35 incl. 20 mins @ 7:43
Follow up trip to the osteopath and all is well. Some lovely clicks and crunching of bones and I’m good to go for another while. Happy days.0 -
Bungy Girl wrote: »Hi RR, good to hear from you. Probably handiest to share via email so just PM your address. I have 2 plans that might help, one I used when starting back from scratch after the disc injury and the other is the framework and advice Clearlier gave me for increasing mileage/base building to a new level.
Brilliant, thanks. Will PM youBungy Girl wrote: »Where are you at currently with the comeback ?
I'd rather not talk about it! It makes me depressed. Slow slow slow recovery despite lots of hard work. I refuse to be beaten though,no matter how long it takesBungy Girl wrote: »P.S. Be aware there is zero racing allowed ! Nada, not even a sprint for the bus :eek:. Can you handle it ?
I can promise to try ! 0 -
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I'd rather not talk about it! It makes me depressed. Slow slow slow recovery despite lots of hard work. I refuse to be beaten though,no matter how long it takes
sorry to hijack your log, BG, but get well soon, RR! We miss you on the Sunday runs. slow and steady and working on your strength is definitely the best way to go - I really think it took me all of 2014 to reap the benefits from Pilates and strength training and get back to running consistently. It felt like forever at the time, but once I put the injuries behind me I got back to where I had been quickly enough, and I know you will too. Hope you're not in too much pain day to day with the Achilles?0 -
Saturday – Easy
Yawn. In retrospect I should have combined the 3 shorter runs this week into two and taken an extra rest day as this really wasn’t worth the effort of getting changed. Meh.- 3.5 miles incl 6 x 20 sec strides (grass, path).
Sunday – Greystones to Bray social run
Roadtrip at 9 bells from DNS with aquinn to Bray where we met Firedance and, wind howling, acknowledged that we were indeed crazy, before taking the DART to Greystones to meet up with Dubgal at the start of the trail. I can only imagine how spectacular this route is on a clear day. Visibility wasn’t great this morning unfortunately but it’s a lovely route and we had a very enjoyable run. And, thanks to the kindness of random internet strangers, we were treated to a hot shower, tea & scrumptious goodies post run.
Just noticed the now default ‘Kilkeel’ on my Garmin changed to ‘Treaddur Community’ today. No idea what’s up with that- 4.7 miles (trail, path)
TOTAL WEEKLY MILES: 33.7 (target 35*)
*I thought, briefly, about going out again to make up the 35, but as it would mean a third shower as well as testing the patience of the OH I decided against the run in the interest of domestic harmony.
Now, to schedule next week's 45 miles and juggle life etc. around them!0 -
Almost half way
Monday – Easy longer run #1 of 2 incl. segment @ 1 hour pace/effort
Couldn’t wait to get out for this even though the conditions looked a bit grim setting off. Had a vague idea of an 8 mile loop that would allow for the paced section to be on a long, flat stretch with the wind behind me. Griffith Ave, Killester, Castle Ave down to the promenade before hitting the lap button for the start of the 18 mins. Got to the Bull Wall and wasn’t even half way so continued on towards St.Anne’s for a bit before realising I’d have to turn back or risk finishing the 8 miles too far from home and I had to be back in time for dinner. Turned around into a gale force wind (it was only a gentle breeze when it was behind me!) and battled to keep the pace in the right zone (7:15-7:30). I know I should have reduced the pace and kept the effort but I didn’t have the discipline . As a result I was very glad to hit the lap button after the 18 mins had elapsed, so obviously too fast.
I’m finding the 1 hour pace/effort hard to judge, and the weather’s not helping, but hopefully I’ll get better at it as time goes on.- 8 miles @ 8:26 incl. 18 mins @ 7:17
Tuesday - Easy, S&C
Taking tomorrow off so did Pilates this evening instead. Don’t know when I’m going to fit the gym in this week, although it appears from Myles’ log that all one needs is a few cubic metres and a cubicle so I should probably just multi-task and get my session done in Penney’s changing rooms. Ran the long way round to get to Pilates and did some strides into the wind on the promenade. What is the story with the wind ? It has been mental for months now.- 6 miles @ 8:56 incl. 6 x 20 sec strides
DAYS SINCE LAST RACE - 30
DAYS UNTIL NEXT RACE* - 35
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Bungy Girl wrote: »Almost half way
although it appears from Myles’ log that all one needs is a few cubic metres and a cubicle so I should probably just multi-task and get my session done in Penney’s changing rooms. ] I think judging by his description Penney's changing rooms are actually too big...
nice work on the 1 hour pace effort even if a smidge too fast - its all a learning curve 0 -
Bungy Girl wrote: »Almost half way
DAYS UNTIL NEXT RACE* - 35
*Not that I’m counting or anything….
What's on Sept 1st? I've the Grant Thornton 5km that night, are you entered?0 -
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Bungy Girl wrote: »There's a 3 miler in Raheny. I couldn't find a race for Monday
Hilarious, base building finishes on the 30/08, one day rest and straight to racing.0 -
Hilarious, base building finishes on the 30/08, one day rest and straight to racing.
I won't be taking it too seriously. Just need to wake up the legs before the Lakes 10k. Although my 3 mile PB is years old and pretty soft so I might have a go at that . Is the Grant Thornton a work thing ? 0 -
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Bungy Girl wrote: »I won't be taking it too seriously. Just need to wake up the legs before the Lakes 10k. Although my 3 mile PB is years old and pretty soft so I might have a go at that . Is the Grant Thornton a work thing ?
Oh right, yeah. Wake up the legs. Hmmn. All twitchy to race more like.
If you get a team of 4 and pay €100 you can race as far as I know:
http://www.grantthorntoncorporatechallenge.ie/index.php/event1/0
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