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Grain price.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    and what number do you want it over or under?

    320.

    Edit. It must be over 320.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass



    Educate a simple beef man, What is the Hapsberg test (something to do with milling quality is it?) what score are you aiming for?

    Hagberg measures how much the grain has started to sprout(wet weather), producing an enzyme alpha-amylaze that breaks down the starch(flour) which is the energy store for the seed and big indicater of quality.
    take about 20g of wheat
    grind to flour
    add distilled water 100ml to the 'slurry'
    place in 100degree water for 60 seconds stirring constantly
    take out place in a stand get a special plunger that is like a seive and count how long it takes to fall to bottom of test tube the time taken in seconds is you 'falling no.'. Normally goes to 5 mins 300secs but dawg kept going, cut off is 215 for low quality wheat up to 240+ is now prefered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass


    Dawggone wrote: »
    320.

    Edit. It must be over 320.

    Take it yours is for mixing with bulk shyte from over here ;). Normally only count to 300 here.

    Hope your man gets better soon, lucky man, 4 string bales?
    Balers replaceable but a pia.
    Whats bluetounge? spread by flies before sbv was the rage iirc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Blackgrass wrote: »
    Take it yours is for mixing with bulk shyte from over here ;). Normally only count to 300 here.

    Absolutely.


    They count here until the end.


    Spraying a urea solution during grain fill worked wonders for protein. Some results are over 14.5%. Will be part of the agronomy from now on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Blackgrass wrote: »
    Take it yours is for mixing with bulk shyte from over here ;). Normally only count to 300 here.

    Hope your man gets better soon, lucky man, 4 string bales?
    Balers replaceable but a pia.
    Whats bluetounge? spread by flies before sbv was the rage iirc?

    Top man and extremely lucky. Was tying down an artic load and telescopic took off and hit the load. Broken back.

    Bluetongue is a virus and I think that midge/mozzies are the vector.
    Animals with swollen heads and drooling.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Spraying a urea solution during grain fill worked wonders for protein. Some results are over 14.5%. Will be part of the agronomy from now on.

    Our combine driver was at a drivers focus group for future developement, told him to get them to put a Qtas type machine to record on the fly in field. Imagine the bonus vs that sample getting lost in the heap :). Like urea as doesn't come and go as quick as An and plant gets better use, did drought hold yeild knocking protein up a few %?. We'll have a slightly above average yeild here not enough rain and not enough heads, spring crops worse affected couldn't keep enough tillers alive in cold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Top man and extremely lucky. Was tying down an artic load and telescopic took off and hit the load. Broken back.

    Bluetongue is a virus and I think that midge/mozzies are the vector.
    Animals with swollen heads and drooling.

    Mechanical or opperator error? Surely he'll be stiff for life(all going well) and in reality spending his days rattling a bad back isn't doable in a tractor?:( Wait and see type job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Blackgrass wrote: »
    Mechanical or opperator error? Surely he'll be stiff for life(all going well) and in reality spending his days rattling a bad back isn't doable in a tractor?:( Wait and see type job.

    Parked on a slope with boom up and forgot handbrake...
    In fairness his job has been less and less driving.
    Four consultants have seen him and said that he will be as good as new.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Blackgrass wrote: »
    Our combine driver was at a drivers focus group for future developement, told him to get them to put a Qtas type machine to record on the fly in field. Imagine the bonus vs that sample getting lost in the heap :). Like urea as doesn't come and go as quick as An and plant gets better use, did drought hold yeild knocking protein up a few %?. We'll have a slightly above average yeild here not enough rain and not enough heads, spring crops worse affected couldn't keep enough tillers alive in cold.

    Drought has hit yields no doubt.
    I have control plots on several fields ( every second tramline treated with urea) and the average gain is 2.1% over untreated.
    We are now harvesting deeper land and the yields are around the 9t/ha.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Absolutely.


    They count here until the end.


    Spraying a urea solution during grain fill worked wonders for protein. Some results are over 14.5%. Will be part of the agronomy from now on.

    We find it's simpler to throw/put the urea on when we are crimping:D

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    blue5000 wrote: »
    We find it's simpler to throw/put the urea on when we are crimping:D
    Lol.
    I use acid when crimping. Btw, acid is the job as a rodent repellant.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,148 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Dawggone wrote: »
    320.

    Edit. It must be over 320.

    Thanks. Always nice to learn a bit about different enterprises.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Another one burned out yesterday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Another one burned out yesterday.

    Do you just have to accept that you'll have one or 2 burn out, or is there something the operator can do to prevent it. Are they being clean out often enough?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Do you just have to accept that you'll have one or 2 burn out, or is there something the operator can do to prevent it. Are they being clean out often enough?

    Every machine is blown down at least once per day.
    The advice we are given is to turn off pto and head fast to nearest road/passageway, pull pin and drive.
    This is to minimise the chance of straw/stubble fire as houses could be lost.
    This year is very dry so you can expect these kind of losses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭ml100


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Every machine is blown down at least once per day.
    The advice we are given is to turn off pto and head fast to nearest road/passageway, pull pin and drive.
    This is to minimise the chance of straw/stubble fire as houses could be lost.
    This year is very dry so you can expect these kind of losses.


    What's the green barley price at the moment?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    ml100 wrote: »
    What's the green barley price at the moment?

    I've no idea tbh. Subtract circa €25 to €30 from dried price to give a ballpark figure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    ml100 wrote: »
    What's the green barley price at the moment?

    Mid to late €130 for sept pay being quoted atm up and down but definitely under €140


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass


    Beans beans beans. About 8 -9 days to go to harvest in osr. Would like more pods on the stem but what is there are full big and bold. Should be a good yield nothing to shout about. Free N on the root nodules (small white/creamy 'balls')


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    Blackgrass wrote: »
    Beans beans beans. About 8 -9 days to go to harvest in osr. Would like more pods on the stem but what is there are full big and bold. Should be a good yield nothing to shout about. Free N on the root nodules (small white/creamy 'balls')

    Hopefully you'll make the price of a pair of laces.:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Blackgrass wrote: »
    Beans beans beans. About 8 -9 days to go to harvest in osr. Would like more pods on the stem but what is there are full big and bold. Should be a good yield nothing to shout about. Free N on the root nodules (small white/creamy 'balls')

    Will that N be lost when crop is harvested?
    How do they are created ? Presume by the plant?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass


    Hopefully you'll make the price of a pair of laces.:)

    used to tie up properly but broke after 1 month constant rubbing i guess, lasted 18 months like that and like a slip on so much handier


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass


    Will that N be lost when crop is harvested?
    How do they are created ? Presume by the plant?

    Beans are a legume crop so fix N like clover, about 40kg/ha i've been told. Will drill straight in with drill with milling wheat just lift worst of tramlines but not too bad ruts at all any where this year :). Helps drive early growth would reckon causing roots to go deeper before winter bites hard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Blackgrass wrote: »
    used to tie up properly but broke after 1 month constant rubbing i guess, lasted 18 months like that and like a slip on so much handier

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass


    Get your head out of that gutter.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Bog Man 1


    Any idea of the Acreage of Beans sown in Ireland this year and expected Tonnage to be harvested and is the feed industry ready to use it . What was the forward price being offered by Glanbia earlier in the year and how does that compare with prices available now .. It looks to me a lot of the beans were sown in lighter ground and will not yield that well .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass


    Bog Man 1 wrote: »
    Any idea of the Acreage of Beans sown in Ireland this year and expected Tonnage to be harvested and is the feed industry ready to use it . What was the forward price being offered by Glanbia earlier in the year and how does that compare with prices available now .. It looks to me a lot of the beans were sown in lighter ground and will not yield that well .

    Goin on a boat for human consumption from here, couldn't quote stock feed prices


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Blackgrass wrote: »
    Goin on a boat for human consumption from here, couldn't quote stock feed prices

    Do pollinators make a big difference to the yield ?- know a lad that used to bring in a couple of bee hives at flowering -

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,148 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Do you need to desiccate before harvesting beans?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass


    Markcheese wrote: »
    Do pollinators make a big difference to the yield ?- know a lad that used to bring in a couple of bee hives at flowering -

    Ye we have local bee keeper in can't say how much of an effect it has but generally works well to move onto different crops at different stages. Have pollen banks/strips and some wild flower meadow in as well. Suits more so as can move away around time of pesticide apps


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