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CloughCasey1 · 19-07-2015 11:09AM

leg wax wrote: »

last of the pt bulls gone yesterday
508kg 1430
478kg 1290
422kg 1160
391kg 1100
266kg 740

Your happy out so.

Willfarman · 19-07-2015 12:15PM

Was the last one a late calf or a bad un?

Kovu · 19-07-2015 01:42PM

What are cows like at the minute? Have one here that we're fed up of, even though she's a good breeder. Has broken at 40 days and is a bit of a loon when trying to round her up. What are the blood rules re factory. She has never been blooded.

Is she fit? She has got no meal and calf still on her but ready to wean. would a few weeks in a shed make her over fat?

I know nothing about putting animals to the factory so help me out lads!!

Grueller · 19-07-2015 01:55PM

Kovu wrote: »

What are cows like at the minute? Have one here that we're fed up of, even though she's a good breeder. Has broken at 40 days and is a bit of a loon when trying to round her up. What are the blood rules re factory. She has never been blooded.

Is she fit? She has got no meal and calf still on her but ready to wean. would a few weeks in a shed make her over fat?

I know nothing about putting animals to the factory so help me out lads!!

Fine cow kovu. She looks well fleshed to my eye anyhow. Blood her and away with her asap imo. I killed one lately in no better condition and got €4.30 a kilo. Let her on when prices are still strong.

Kovu · 19-07-2015 02:21PM

Grueller wrote: »

Fine cow kovu. She looks well fleshed to my eye anyhow. Blood her and away with her asap imo. I killed one lately in no better condition and got €4.30 a kilo. Let her on when prices are still strong.

You got a good price there!
Will she still have to be blooded for the factory? Am also waiting on two other cows, if they repeat, they can join her.

mf240 · 19-07-2015 02:24PM

No blood needed for factory.

Kovu · 19-07-2015 02:27PM

mf240 wrote: »

No blood needed for factory.

At all? She was born in 2010 and escaped it all these years.

mf240 · 19-07-2015 02:31PM

Kovu wrote: »

At all? She was born in 2010 and escaped it all these years.

Yip. No blood for factory. Only mart or private sale.

Bullocks · 19-07-2015 02:36PM

A mate of mine brought 3 like her(maybe not as good ) to the mart last . I'll ask him and report back . I'd say she is grand for factory and would save you the price of blooding her . But then again someone might give better money in the mart and get more weight on her themselves

Kovu · 19-07-2015 02:39PM

Bullocks wrote: »

A mate of mine brought 3 like her(maybe not as good ) to the mart last . I'll ask him and report back . I'd say she is grand for factory and would save you the price of blooding her . But then again someone might give better money in the mart and get more weight on her themselves

True, but I think she'd go overfat very quick as she's put up that on grass alone while feeding a brute of a blue heifer. Ask and let me know though! I suppose I could feed her in the field for a few weeks with a bucket. Save hardship of the shed.

leg wax · 19-07-2015 03:21PM

Willfarman wrote: »

Was the last one a late calf or a bad un?

reared on a teat ,always struggling .

simx · 19-07-2015 03:54PM

Kovu wrote: »

You got a good price there!
Will she still have to be blooded for the factory? Am also waiting on two other cows, if they repeat, they can join her.

ThAts an outstanding price imo best I heard for a R grade cow is €4.10, would you not mart her? Could be better off, good cows very much so in demand, looks fine for flesh to me

Kovu · 19-07-2015 04:54PM

simx wrote: »

ThAts an outstanding price imo best I heard for a R grade cow is €4.10, would you not mart her? Could be better off, good cows very much so in demand, looks fine for flesh to me

Cost of blooding, mart fees, day spent in the mart.....easier to send her one way with a haulier who builds up loads to send in.

cute geoge · 19-07-2015 05:16PM

I have often sent the odd cow to factory with haulier ,sometimes i am happy and more often not
That cow could carry more weight imo and would fly in the mart at the moment
As far as i know bruc. testing is to be done away with shortly ,vet told me only waiting for our minister coveney to anounce it.
I have a few to mart myself and am holding tough until then

visatorro · 19-07-2015 05:54PM

Kovu wrote:

Cost of blooding, mart fees, day spent in the mart.....easier to send her one way with a haulier who builds up loads to send in.

yeah but the dealer will get a better price than you for himself in factory. so he can give more in the mart iykwim? sometimes you get more in the mart for a factory fit animal

mf240 · 20-07-2015 11:24AM

visatorro wrote: »

yeah but the dealer will get a better price than you for himself in factory. so he can give more in the mart iykwim? sometimes you get more in the mart for a factory fit animal

Ya but unless theres someone to bid against him he wont .

In the local mart the dealers stand back for each other for every other lot.

That plus the cost of blooding and call out fee for vet.

Muckit · 20-07-2015 11:49AM

Kovu wrote: »

True, but I think she'd go overfat very quick as she's put up that on grass alone while feeding a brute of a blue heifer. Ask and let me know though! I suppose I could feed her in the field for a few weeks with a bucket. Save hardship of the shed.

Well fleshed facory fit cows are a great trade in the marts atm. There's is a big variation in the price you will get for cows in different factories. Some specialise in them. Others don't want to know. My advice for what it's worth, is It will pay you well to blood her and sell hard through the ring.

Factory in Moyvalley, among others, is good for cows. Dealers buying through the ring will put a few together and get them going on a load. They can afford to pay you more than you would get selling direct to your local factory.

Also she could just as easily go north with your marts proximity and the strong sterling against the euro.

Kovu · 20-07-2015 11:57AM

Some very good points for both. Damn.....I was expecting to be told outright what to do :pac: I suppose I could get onto a vet who's a mate of mine and ask him to blood her when he's in the area. Would save us a call out fee as he expressed an interest in her calf last time he was here, kill two birds with one stone.
Going to put them in today and wean her, calf is Nov so well fit, reckon she's about 340kg or so.

keysersoze1 · 20-07-2015 12:08PM

do not send a cow to the factory that's suckling a calf...you'll get her price in the mart at the moment dealers or no dealers

Kovu · 20-07-2015 12:09PM

keysersoze1 wrote: »

do not send a cow to the factory that's suckling a calf...you'll get her price in the mart at the moment dealers or no dealers

I know that, hence her being weaned. Both the father and myself have experience working in factories but not for a few years.

leoch · 20-07-2015 12:29PM

are the factories that dodgy that a dealer will get more for ur cattle in the factory than urself i thought the grading machine would be the same for everyone

tanko · 20-07-2015 12:39PM

leoch wrote: »

are the factories that dodgy that a dealer will get more for ur cattle in the factory than urself i thought the grading machine would be the same for everyone

A dealer who can put a lorry load of cows together might get 420c/kg but a farmer bringing one cow might get 400c/kg. It's nothing to do with the grading machines.

Farmer Pudsey · 24-07-2015 07:27AM

Are prices gone this crazy have not been in a mart in ages. But looking at DD at present some lads that are buying are going to get a scalding. Both lots of cattle are more than likly 2017 factory cattle. Some lads are buying for the sake of buying

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/fr-bulls/9925977?offset=22
http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/9-british-frisian-bulls/9973619?offset=9

CloughCasey1 · 24-07-2015 08:13AM

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Are prices gone this crazy have not been in a mart in ages. But looking at DD at present some lads that are buying are going to get a scalding. Both lots of cattle are more than likly 2017 factory cattle. Some lads are buying for the sake of buying

Hopefully they are as I've a few going tomorrow.
Both sets would have been got for 480 last yr. B&W will be first to take hit in a slump. We bought an 20mt old well made frx for 815 last yr. Will know the result of that by Monday.

Cavanjack · 24-07-2015 09:02AM

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Are prices gone this crazy have not been in a mart in ages. But looking at DD at present some lads that are buying are going to get a scalding. Both lots of cattle are more than likly 2017 factory cattle. Some lads are buying for the sake of buying

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/fr-bulls/9925977?offset=22
http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/9-british-frisian-bulls/9973619?offset=9

Would anybody really pay those prices. Is it more a case of lads chancing their arm? The country must be full of fr bull weanlings like above, many of which were kept on to drink milk. These will surely hit the marts in the coming months and early next year and the a#$e (if they have any) will fall out of them

AP2014 · 24-07-2015 10:17AM

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Are prices gone this crazy have not been in a mart in ages. But looking at DD at present some lads that are buying are going to get a scalding. Both lots of cattle are more than likly 2017 factory cattle. Some lads are buying for the sake of buying

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/fr-bulls/9925977?offset=22
http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/9-british-frisian-bulls/9973619?offset=9

Seems they are from talking to lads going to marts. Absolutely crazy. I have a lanky HEX that was thrown in from dealer this year. He would be around 400kg. I am thinking of letting him go soon as prices seem mad.

Count Mondego · 24-07-2015 09:50PM

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Are prices gone this crazy have not been in a mart in ages. But looking at DD at present some lads that are buying are going to get a scalding. Both lots of cattle are more than likly 2017 factory cattle. Some lads are buying for the sake of buying

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/fr-bulls/9925977?offset=22
http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/9-british-frisian-bulls/9973619?offset=9

Don't think that is happening. Was in Gort mart last night.

Ch hf 300kg €940 - Nice animal
Aax nov/14 355 €985
Bax jan/15 280 €850

They're mental prices alright but there was value in year and a halves. A pen of lovely CH heifers came in, 8 together about 450kgs. They went for 1050 which was actually good value for their quality. Though it was ridiculous to put 8 in the ring together, how many lads were there for 8?

Farmer Pudsey · 24-07-2015 09:56PM

Count Mondego wrote: »

Don't think that is happening. Was in Gort mart last night.

Ch hf 300kg €940 - Nice animal
Aax nov/14 355 €985
Bax jan/15 280 €850

They're mental prices alright but there was value in year and a halves. A pen of lovely CH heifers came in, 8 together about 450kgs. They went for 1050 which was actually good value for their quality. Though it was ridiculous to put 8 in the ring together, how many lads were there for 8?

All you need is two

CloughCasey1 · 25-07-2015 12:22PM

Lmx feb 14 540kg 1340
Bbx apr 14 520kg 1350
Lmx jan 14 505kg 1390
Bbx apr 14 530kg 1240

AP2014 · 25-07-2015 12:44PM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Lmx feb 14 540kg 1340
Bbx apr 14 520kg 1350
Lmx jan 14 505kg 1390
Bbx apr 14 530kg 1240

These your own? Bullocks? Any pics?

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