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Would you support a family member wanted to die by assisted suicide?

  • 17-07-2015 04:21PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,294 ✭✭✭✭


    I saw another thread on a different forum about euthanisa. In it a man was mentioned who had a very rare type of cancer and he had no hope of surviving and to my knowledge he would had a very poor quality of life. So he decided to end his life via euthanisa. They said they felt so sorry for his family/etc who to the best of my knowledge supported his choice.
    I think I would support a family member dying via euthanisa as long as it was a terminal illness/would be in a lot of pain/have a very poor quality of life. I'd also have no problem caring for them during there illness if that's what they wanted.
    What would you do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,060 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Yes I would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Yes, I would.

    We extend the help to animals that we are too brainwashed and pussy-footed about to extend to human beings.

    If someone close to me were in utter pain and misery which will only go one way, and wants it to end, I would see it as my duty to help them end it. Once my child is grown and I don't have any other responsibilities, I would put myself at risk for prosecution for it, too.

    It's a very specific situation though, so I hope I never encounter it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    I don't know. I think I would do everything in my power to try and persuade them not to but if they had made the decision and I knew that they were not for turning on the matter then I would certainly do my best to be there for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Without a shadow of a doubt. Sometimes natural death is a bloody awful thing (both to experience and witness somebody go through). If a family member sought to avoid such a thing and knock their own wicket over it would be frankly inhumane of me to stand in their way.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Of course I would, because I'm not a selfish asshat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Yes I would. And I'd do anything I could to help them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    I think I would support a family member dying via euthanisa as long as it was a terminal illness/would be in a lot of pain/have a very poor quality of life. I'd also have no problem caring for them during there illness if that's what they wanted.
    What would you do?

    They are two very different things. Supporting someone's right to choose euthanasia in the event of a terminal illness is one thing, but caring for someone throughout an illness isn't an option for a lot of people for a huge range of reasons.


  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    When I had to put down my own dog once, the vet put the needle into a vein in his leg, and told me to inject it when I was ready. I'm glad he took that approach, it allowed me to take ownership of the whole thing. Instead of feeling like a pitiful bystander, I felt like I'd lived up to my obligations and had done him a good deed.

    Now before anyone recoils in indignation at comparing family members to dogs, I know family relationships are usually more intense, and I'm sure none of us want to be physically wielding the needle. All I'm saying is that perhaps being in that position where you can say, 'we've reached the end, this is cruel, it has to stop', makes you less of a victim.

    An inability to intervene or comfort your family member when they are close to death, or even in pain, is deeply upsetting. Anyone who's been in that position knows what a Godsend morphine can be, and everyone knows morphine quickens death. Why can't we just accept and improve upon a practice that is already happening?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭RayCon


    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Yes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭Two Sheds


    Being related to a sick or dying person should not give anybody rights over that person's life. If any of my family took that upon themselves, where my life is concerned, I would politely tell them to go to hell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    'Yes' if I was in their will and 'No, sure hang on a while' if I wasn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,871 ✭✭✭rolliepoley


    I'ed even dig the hole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,786 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Depends, if it was someone like Ian Huntley I would, but then I would resuscitate the bastard, and repeat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,490 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    Yes I would . Would probably break my heart but it would be worse to have it break from watching them suffer excruciating pain if they were truely not going to back down from their decision.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    Absolutely.
    If it's what they wanted and had thought it through would have to honour their wishes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Two Sheds wrote: »
    Being related to a sick or dying person should not give anybody rights over that person's life. If any of my family took that upon themselves, where my life is concerned, I would politely tell them to go to hell.

    :confused:
    You know what "assisted" means yeah? We're talking about someone that wants to die asking for help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭my teapot is orange


    It depends what you mean by "support". I would definitely be of the view that someone who has no quality of life and wants to end it should be allowed to, but as it stands that isn't always legal. I wouldn't do anything to help that might get me into legally murky waters. Even booking travel would be assisting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    If it was their wish yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,294 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Two Sheds wrote: »
    Being related to a sick or dying person should not give anybody rights over that person's life. If any of my family took that upon themselves, where my life is concerned, I would politely tell them to go to hell.

    My thread was relating to people who made up there own mind that they wanted to die, not family members choosing to end somebodies else's life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Yes, I've seen to many of my family die, wasting away painfully to cancer. If I'm ever that bad I'd beg to be put out of my suffering and not be a burden on my family members of them having to visit me in hospital for months, help me get to the bathroom and do my washing. It's only kicking the can down the road and prolonging needless suffering, that's not life, that's not living.

    I'm not saying my dying relatives were a burden during their final months, I just don't want to be that person.

    I would help any member of my family suffering that didn't want to be there any more, forcing them to live is just the height of cruelty for selfish reason imo.

    I had to put my cat down a few weeks ago, he was only 8 and could have lived another few months in suffering but the right thing to do was put him asleep. I went in with him and the whole process, took him home and buried him. It broke my heart, one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. I was very upset, angry and guilty with myself having to do it but it was the right thing.

    A family member I would imagine a is million times worse and very hard but when it's the only option instead of them suffering along needlessly and they asked and were still 100% in mind then it's the least you can really do to help them one last time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    Of course - there's no sane reason to prolong a persons suffering when the only outcome is certain death following cruel and intolerable pain. Needless to say the god heads love that sort of thing which is why they oppose preventing such barbarity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭Two Sheds


    My thread was relating to people who made up there own mind that they wanted to die, not family members choosing to end somebodies else's life.
    Whether they ask or not it still amounts to choosing death for somebody else.
    It's an act of extreme arrogance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Two Sheds wrote: »
    It's an act of extreme arrogance.

    It's an act of mercy. Arrogance is standing by and watching them suffer after they have asked for it to be ended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,294 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Two Sheds wrote: »
    Whether they ask or not it still amounts to choosing death for somebody else.
    It's an act of extreme arrogance.

    I'd consider not allowing somebody carry out there dying wish to be an act of extreme arrogance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭jjC123


    Two Sheds wrote: »
    Whether they ask or not it still amounts to choosing death for somebody else.
    It's an act of extreme arrogance.

    It's an act of compassion. Oftentimes there's no dignity in natural death. People who've lived long lives,worked, raised children, been good friends, talented sportspeople/actors/scientists/teachers/ whatever shouldn't be reduced to something ill, incontinent and more dependant than a baby at the end of their lives. If it's their wish, let them go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭Two Sheds


    I'd consider not allowing somebody carry out there dying wish to be an act of extreme arrogance.
    Surely you mean 'assisting' or even doing it for them? Isn't that what the debate is about?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    No, I don't think I'd help anyone kill themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭jjC123


    No, I don't think I'd help anyone kill themselves.

    But the question is whether or not you'd support their decision?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    My thread was relating to people who made up there own mind that they wanted to die, not family members choosing to end somebodies else's life.

    I think he meant family not respecting a person's wishes and keeping them alive when they want to die


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