Beef General Thread

Mad4simmental · 05-07-2015 01:04AM

The calves didn't get a bolus yet and will have plenty of good after grass in front of them. But it will take a month before they get fully ust to the creep, that's the start of August and the stronger ones only 8ish weeks from being pulled from mammy. I'm going to try use it as a tool to brake the bond before hand by placing it in the next field in the rotation. That's the plan anyway.

Farmer Pudsey · 05-07-2015 01:43AM

Kovu wrote: »

I'm not too great on the self mixes as we always use a nut but would barley not be a bit harsh on their stomach? Would they be tempted enough to eat it is the second question :P

A miller salesman said the same when I spec'ed a ration of barley and hulls this year, now I know it is two year old fresians but from the first day they are emptying the troughs. I orders straight hulls a while back and he said they all wanted barley and maize in the mix.

Base price wrote: »

I wouldn't go with 3:1 to start off with. Soya meal is not that palatable and you could turn them off before you start. Many years ago a nutritional advisor told me not to include more than 20% soya meal. I also found that younger stock are more inclined to leave the soya meal in the end of the trough.
I would go with straight barley (rolled) first and then slowly introduce the soya meal t build up the protein content.
We always feed rolled barley to calves and young stock and have no issues.

Soya bean meal not palatable:rolleyes: FFS the only reason I would not use it is the price. Nobody has mentions calcium. Calcium build bones, build bones.

Good loser wrote: »

No need for protein meal (the soya) on grass.

I agree to many get hooked on protein put a bit of calcium in the mix.

Reggie. · 17-07-2015 09:52AM

Sold 4 cattle yesterday in delvin mart.
2x HEX blks 485kgs €1120
1x FR blk 510kgs €1130
1x AAX blk 565kgs €1230

All animals 18/19 months old.

AP2014 · 17-07-2015 09:56AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Sold 4 cattle yesterday in delvin mart.
2x HEX blks 485kgs €1120
1x FR blk 510kgs €1130
1x AAX blk 565kgs €1230

All animals 18/19 months old.

Unreal prices Reggie for hex, fr and aax. Fair play. Are they the ones you stuck pics up of recently?

Reggie. · 17-07-2015 10:16AM

AP2014 wrote: »

Unreal prices Reggie for hex, fr and aax. Fair play. Are they the ones you stuck pics up of recently?

Yeah the same ones. Surprised how heavy that AAX was. Well in fairness was happy with all thier weights to be fair

AP2014 · 17-07-2015 10:18AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Yeah the same ones. Surprised how heavy that AAX was. Well in fairness was happy with all thier weights to be fair

Unreal weight, didn't look it. Had some great chx's last year that age hardly that weight. Tempted to let a few go myself now early sept or oct. Will see how I am for grass.

Reggie. · 17-07-2015 10:20AM

AP2014 wrote: »

Unreal weight, didn't look it. Had some great chx's last year that age hardly that weight. Tempted to let a few go myself now early sept or oct. Will see how I am for grass.

I'd be thinking of letting them go now. Test the water. Animals from 400kg to 600kg are on demand.my advice is to go before the glut of cattle come in from the fields

simonhm · 17-07-2015 10:22AM

i have a bbx heifer born in April 14 . only problem with her is she got lapped in wire with her back leg with the previous owner and she cant walk on it as a result of the damage. her nerve is gone on that leg. she is eating grass and meal and is walking on 3 legs. what would she be worth and where would I sell her ?

CloughCasey1 · 17-07-2015 11:30AM

simonhm wrote: »

i have a bbx heifer born in April 14 . only problem with her is she got lapped in wire with her back leg with the previous owner and she cant walk on it as a result of the damage. her nerve is gone on that leg. she is eating grass and meal and is walking on 3 legs. what would she be worth and where would I sell her ?

Keep her until November and finish her in factory. Mart would be way too much hardship on her. See have any local butchers their own abattoir and they might by her by live weight when ya flesh her out a bit.

whelan2 · 17-07-2015 11:31AM

my dad has a pb aa cow very heavy, dry a long timeand a pb aa heifer- lunatic but has quietened down a bit- probably over 600kg. How long do ye expect prices to stay at current levels? Will have to blood them and convince him to sell them

CloughCasey1 · 17-07-2015 11:32AM

Reggie. wrote: »

I'd be thinking of letting them go now. Test the water. Animals from 400kg to 600kg are on demand.my advice is to go before the glut of cattle come in from the fields

Think I might follow your advice on that. Those sorta prices don't come too often. Most of what I have won't be suitable to finish this yr as they april and may weanlings that I bought last yr as couldn't rear calves early on as down with tb.

Reggie. · 17-07-2015 01:06PM

whelan2 wrote: »

my dad has a pb aa cow very heavy, dry a long timeand a pb aa heifer- lunatic but has quietened down a bit- probably over 600kg. How long do ye expect prices to stay at current levels? Will have to blood them and convince him to sell them

They might stay a little while longer but if you notice the graph at the back of the journal it's around this time the glut of cattle arrive to marts.

The mart yesterday had plenty of cattle in it but mainly cows, bulls and heifers. Not too many bullocks.

Once the glut arrives I'd say the prices will come under pressure a bit. Can't see them plummeting but I'd say they will drop a little

Bullocks · 18-07-2015 02:38PM

Sold 3 heifers and a bull weanling today
BB 300kg €810
LM 420kg €1000
LM 460kg €950
BB bull 260kg €820

Happy with that

just do it · 18-07-2015 02:46PM

Bullocks wrote: »

Sold 3 heifers and a bull weanling today
BB 300kg €810
LM 420kg €1000
LM 460kg €950
BB bull 260kg €820

Happy with that

Good stuff. What quality were they?

Bullocks · 18-07-2015 02:56PM

just do it wrote: »

Good stuff. What quality were they?

They weren't export , that's for sure .
The €1000 heifer was nice and she was 4 * for replacement
They were out of limx cows

Reggie. · 18-07-2015 04:06PM

Bullocks wrote: »

They weren't export , that's for sure .
The €1000 heifer was nice and she was 4 * for replacement
They were out of limx cows

Good prices at marts now eh bullocks

CloughCasey1 · 18-07-2015 04:08PM

Bullocks wrote: »

Sold 3 heifers and a bull weanling today
BB 300kg €810
LM 420kg €1000
LM 460kg €950
BB bull 260kg €820

Happy with that

Were you in Headford with them? Lad was saying store bullocks were dear again. What ages were yours?

Limestone Cowboy · 18-07-2015 04:42PM

whelan2 wrote: »

my dad has a pb aa cow very heavy, dry a long timeand a pb aa heifer- lunatic but has quietened down a bit- probably over 600kg. How long do ye expect prices to stay at current levels? Will have to blood them and convince him to sell them

I heard from 2 people in the last few days that blood testing is finished this month?? Anyone know if there is any truth behind it?

Bullocks · 18-07-2015 04:51PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Good prices at marts now eh bullocks

Oh it is . I have a good mind to get rid of a have of smaller stuff aswell , they will probably make as much now as in October even with a bit more weight on them

Bullocks · 18-07-2015 04:53PM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Were you in Headford with them? Lad was saying store bullocks were dear again. What ages were yours?

No Maam cross, I have a fr cow for headford next Saturday though , the vet hadn't her tested on time this week to go

Bullocks · 18-07-2015 04:55PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

I heard from 2 people in the last few days that blood testing is finished this month?? Anyone know if there is any truth behind it?

Maybe in the herd test but I think you will still have to test for selling over 24 mnths. Greysides might have a more definite answer though

ganmo · 18-07-2015 05:38PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

I heard from 2 people in the last few days that blood testing is finished this month?? Anyone know if there is any truth behind it?

Once NI gets the all clear is what I heard and that was expected this month

whelan2 · 18-07-2015 05:56PM

ganmo wrote: »

Once NI gets the all clear is what I heard and that was expected this month

asked vet the other day and he said they have heard nothing yet , so it will be here for a while

Reggie. · 18-07-2015 07:41PM

Bullocks wrote: »

Oh it is . I have a good mind to get rid of a have of smaller stuff aswell , they will probably make as much now as in October even with a bit more weight on them

Thinking the same but will have nothing to eat the grass then

whelan2 · 18-07-2015 07:46PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Thinking the same but will have nothing to eat the grass then

what about some sheep:D

Reggie. · 18-07-2015 08:02PM

whelan2 wrote: »

what about some sheep:D

How very dare you :P

Bullocks · 18-07-2015 08:14PM

whelan2 wrote: »

what about some sheep:D

You'd want a fair few sheep to eat it as it's coming at the minute but they are down in price a bit I hear . I'll just bale any surplus as I haven't enough fencing for sheep at the minute .
If we don't get a good autumn around here I'd say there will be go on silage hay around Christmas

simonhm · 18-07-2015 10:16PM

bought nice texel ewe lambs to clip the grass for €92 hd

orm0nd · 18-07-2015 10:55PM

simonhm wrote: »

bought nice texel ewe lambs to clip the grass for €92 hd

what weight ?

leg wax · 19-07-2015 09:11AM

last of the pt bulls gone yesterday
508kg 1430
478kg 1290
422kg 1160
391kg 1100
266kg 740

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