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The US Think They Can Extradite Gary Davis

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  • #272
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,016 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    FYP for you there horse, You seem to have found him guilty no matter what.
    but shur murika said so its true. we don't question it, murika is always right. guilty until proven innocent is his motto even if the evidence is a joke, or the charge dubious

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #273
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,298 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    end of the road wrote: »
    but shur murika said so its true. we don't question it, murika is always right. guilty until proven innocent is his motto even if the evidence is a joke, or the charge dubious

    Please don't quote me as a basis for your argument. I would prefer not to be lumped in with you on these issues.


  • #274
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,016 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Someone would have to see it and remove it. And also not report it to the Police. You know like a mod or an admin.
    how do you know he didn't report it to the garda, but as the servers may not have been based in ireland they couldn't do anything?

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #275
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,016 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Nope he did not, But he did moderate Illegal activity.
    or maybe, he isn't guilty

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #276
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    But I have just broken the law, You have it right there in front of you, by not reporting me to the police you are facilitating criminal activity as are the mods and admin of the site.

    This is just getting silly, I bet we would not be having this conversation if the forum was used to put hits out on people.


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  • #277
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,298 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    This is just getting silly, I bet we would not be having this conversation if the forum was used to put hits out on people.

    Of course it's getting silly, I'm pointing out the silliness of your stance that a man who lives in Ireland and was a moderator/admin on a site that had no servers in America should be extradited to America for crimes they claim happened. Unless they can prove 100% that he broke laws serious enough for him to probably spend a good chunk of the rest of his life in prison then the judge should tell them to **** off!

    And FYI there are plenty of sites out there that offer wayyyyyyy worse than silk road, Maybe the world police should go for those people first.


  • #278
    Means Of Escape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Why would they want to extradite someone who did not break any law ? Yes he is innocent until he is found guilty of a crime. That does not stop them requesting extradition to bring him before a court of law.

    Furthermore federal cases take along time to come have warrants issued and for the case to come to court
    Invariably this length of time is required to make their case watertight
    An extradition request is not served on a whim without the evidence being very strong against the defendants.
    The core of his operation must have been US based and they probably have a mountain of evidence against him with all the data they would have obtained through both liens and seizure rights attributed to all federal cases .
    Unfortunately for this chap there is no distinction between mail fraud , drug smuggling and his activities etc and they all carry hefty fines coupled with long jail terms.


  • #279
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    end of the road wrote: »
    how do you know he didn't report it to the garda, but as the servers may not have been based in ireland they couldn't do anything?

    Where should he face charges then ? On the internet ? This is the crux of the issue to be honest just not letting America have him.


  • #280
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Of course it's getting silly, I'm pointing out the silliness of your stance that a man who lives in Ireland and was a moderator/admin on a site that had no servers in America should be extradited to America for crimes they claim happened. Unless they can prove 100% that he broke laws serious enough for him to probably spend a good chunk of the rest of his life in prison then the judge should tell them to **** off!

    I don't have to America is doing that.


  • #281
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,298 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I don't have to America is ATTEMPTING that.

    It's gonna get real boring if I have to keep fixing those posts of yours. You got the noose already made up?


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  • #282
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,016 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Well here for a start but I willing to bet you won't be pursued for it under the Blasphemy law. It's a bit silly comparing freedom of speech with facilitating the sale of illegal drugs.
    no its not. facilitating illegal activity is facilitating illegal activity. you have to report the mods to the aranian police for allowing the criticising of the prophet Mohammed. otherwise your complicit in allowing the facilitation of illegal activity. see how ridiculous that sounds? well, thats what your suggesting with your posts

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #283
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    It's gonna get real boring if I have to keep fixing those posts of yours. You got the noose already made up?

    I would be right with you if it was a guy being charged with blasphemy for example. But Facilitating illegal drug sale is pretty bad.


  • #284
    DarkyHughes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    Yeah, that's not on. What the US have done in Yemen and Pakistan is pretty outrageous but this case in the OP is a whole other ball of wax

    I agree with that but my point is the US can getaway with what ever it feels like & not be held accounted for it. Donald Trump has pledged if he is elected president he'll build a wall on the Mexican/US border & make the Mexicans build & pay for it & then "make the Mexicans play nice" (whatever play nice means. Now as mad as that sound they could actually do that if they really wanted & didn't care about being isolated in the region.


  • #285
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    end of the road wrote: »
    no its not. facilitating illegal activity is facilitating illegal activity. you have to report the mods to the aranian police for allowing the criticising of the prophet Mohammed. otherwise your complicit in allowing the facilitation of illegal activity. see how ridiculous that sounds? well, thats what your suggesting with your posts

    :pac:


  • #286
    DarkyHughes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    knucklehead6 wrote: »
    About the only thing you said there that makes any sort of sense is that an F-16 doesn't care about legal mumbo jumbo.


    Then again, an F-16 IS an inanimate object.

    It all makes sense. What part are you having trouble with?


  • #287
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,016 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    StinkyMunkey wrote: »
    Give him to the yanks tbh, saves the tax payer. The yanks prolly pay for the flight too.
    saves the tax payer what. its not another countries job to save the irish tax payer anything. handing them to america over rules our jurisdiction. i suppose you don't want ireland to have any authority over itself at all?

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #288
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    end of the road wrote: »
    saves the tax payer what. its not another countries job to save the irish tax payer anything. handing them to america over rules our jurisdiction. i suppose you don't want ireland to have any authority over itself at all?

    Then they would just take him and not ask the courts. Is one expecting Seal team 6 or something coming over if they cant get him legally ?


  • #289
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,016 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Means Of Escape wrote: »
    Federal charges have a very high conviction rate so he knows his goose is cooked once he is put on a plane bound for the US.
    yes, he would be whether he is guilty or not. its ensured that those upon such charges are found guilty

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #290
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    end of the road wrote: »
    yes, he would be whether he is guilty or not. its ensured that those upon such charges are found guilty

    :pac:


  • #291
    OneOfThem
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭OneOfThem


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I would be right with you if it was a guy being charged with blasphemy for example. But Facilitating illegal drug sale is pretty bad.

    You're not suggesting people can individually differentiate between which laws are bad and which are not are you? Surely the laws are the laws? Darkpagandeath, if that is indeed your real name, I am shocked. :pac:


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  • #292
    Means Of Escape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    It's gonna get real boring if I have to keep fixing those posts of yours. You got the noose already made up?

    No need to correct anything
    This guy will be convicted if he's extradited
    It won't be trumped up charges and Id say there have been plea bargains already set in place for his "colleagues" to furnish the FBI with more information.
    The federal agencies have unlimited access to all transactions ,conversations etc that they deem a threat to Homeland security . Since the 9/11 Commission report the CIA are now compelled to share all information they have on individuals that have been flagged by the FBI ,DEA and the ATF under the Patriot Act.
    In short they have a case and more than likely a solid and irrefutable charges against him and that's why they want him.
    He will have a long stay in the US and will be marked by all agencies within a month of conviction and barred from entering the US following his release
    In short he is finished and he knows it and if he doesn't his solicitor here does .


  • #293
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,016 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    DarkyHughes wrote: »
    Donald Trump has pledged if he is elected president he'll build a wall on the Mexican/US border & make the Mexicans build & pay for it & then "make the Mexicans play nice" (whatever play nice means.

    it means he will invade and bomb the **** out of the place and slaughter left right and centre. (well he is a nut after all so that is the only conclusion i can come to for what he means)

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #294
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    OneOfThem wrote: »
    You're not suggesting people can individually differentiate between which laws are bad and which are not are you? Surely the laws are the laws? Darkpagandeath, if that is indeed your real name, I am shocked. :pac:

    Then we would not be having this discussion would we.


  • #295
    KomradeBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    I have no interest in defending any of the scumbags involved in that site (the person who ran it all, in particular, is a very nasty individual), but the laws the law and he should not be extradited - he should be prosecuted and imprisoned here in Ireland.

    We don't know that he was only a mod either - the evidence against him isn't known.


  • #296
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,016 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Means Of Escape wrote: »
    No need to correct anything
    This guy will be convicted if he's extradited
    It won't be trumped up charges and Id say there have been plea bargains already set in place for his "colleagues" to furnish the FBI with more information.
    The federal agencies have unlimited access to all transactions ,conversations etc that they deem a threat to Homeland security . Since the 9/11 Commission report the CIA are now compelled to share all information they have on individuals that have been flagged by the FBI ,DEA and the ATF under the Patriot Act.
    In short they have a case and more than likely a solid and irrefutable charges against him and that's why they want him.
    He will have a long stay in the US and will be marked by all agencies within a month of conviction and barred from entering the US following his release
    In short he is finished and he knows it and if he doesn't his solicitor here does .
    he would have all ready entered the US once convicted as he will be jailed there unless he is sent back to ireland or the illegitimate terror prison

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #297
    Smiles35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    Means Of Escape wrote: »
    No need to correct anything
    This guy will be convicted if he's extradited
    It won't be trumped up charges and Id say there have been plea bargains already set in place for his "colleagues" to furnish the FBI with more information.

    There will be actual charges as opposed to a 'class action shebeen' thing. Are you sure?


  • #298
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Where should he face charges then ? On the internet ? This is the crux of the issue to be honest just not letting America have him.

    Wherever he actually was when he committed whatever crimes he is accused of.


  • #299
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    :pac:

    Why the pacman face? He wasn't in America when he did whatever he may have done. Ergo, it shouldn't be America's jurisdiction, and extradition should not be allowed. End of story.


  • #300
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Why the pacman face? He wasn't in America when he did whatever he may have done. Ergo, it shouldn't be America's jurisdiction, and extradition should not be allowed. End of story.

    Then why do the Americans want him ?


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  • #301
    OneOfThem
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭OneOfThem


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Then we would not be having this discussion would we.

    I'm just curious. If the blaspheme law was aggressively enforced. What would be your thoughts on a TOR site that facilitated the criticism of God/religion so that people could do so without being prosecuted?

    (I realise this is a bit of a segway from the specific focus of the thread, but I am genuinely curious).


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