Is u taking over?

Harry Palmr · 14-07-2015 01:44PM

Chillax or LOLLERS or summat.

Rawr · 14-07-2015 01:46PM

You pressed U, referring to me.

The correct answer is U!

Talib Fiasco · 14-07-2015 01:53PM

Samaris wrote: »

This is nothing to do with dyslexia or literacy difficulties. It may be to do with bad practice and a lack of caring though. At BEST, if one can argue that someone may really not know how to spell "you" due to being illiterate, it's probably not the best idea to encourage it as correct and fine.

Dyslexia seems to get blamed for a lot, including just not being arsed. With dyslexia, a person tends to see the letters wrong, as I understand it. I have a mild dyscalculia myself, and I might read 4 as 5 in my head, or write it down when I intend 4. Same or p and q and b and d and all the rest of it in dyslexia.

U is irrelevant to dyslexics and it's doing a lot of people a disservice to encourage its usage. Also, the notion that it's "much less prevalent in business emails" made me cringe a bit, as it suggests it may have appeared in them a few times at least.

Dyslexia is a lot broader than the general public think of though. It's not just the simple letter difficulty. U is very relevant to people with dyslexia, as they have a weakness in relation to sounds or phonemes in language. It's the same reason they mix up two/too/to and end up writing the number or why spelling words ending with y end with an e are common.

And isn't dyscalculia to do with numbers and maths and nothing to do with letters and literacy at all? You really cannot compare the two to be honest.

Shenshen · 14-07-2015 02:17PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Dyslexia is a lot broader than the general public think of though. It's not just the simple letter difficulty. U is very relevant to people with dyslexia, as they have a weakness in relation to sounds or phonemes in language. It's the same reason they mix up two/too/to and end up writing the number or why spelling words ending with y end with an e are common.

And isn't dyscalculia to do with numbers and maths and nothing to do with letters and literacy at all? You really cannot compare the two to be honest.

If you want to argue the finer points, what you describe is dysgraphia, not dyslexia.

Dyslexia usually describes problems which include sounding out words, spelling words, reading quickly, pronouncing words when reading aloud, and understanding what was read.
So for a dyslexic, stumbling across a u instead of you would be a problem, while for someone with dysgraphia writing u instead of you would be a nice shortcut.

And as a dyslexic, yes, I recongise words differently. I will read a u as a oo sound, not as you. And while it won't stop me from understanding after a second or so, it will slow down my reading of whatever message I might be looking at.

Either way, I think if you post or send a text, you are the one trying to communicate something. The least you can do is try and ensure people can read what you're trying to say.

Talib Fiasco · 14-07-2015 02:22PM

Shenshen wrote: »

If you want to argue the finer points, what you describe is dysgraphia, not dyslexia.

Dyslexia usually describes problems which include sounding out words, spelling words, reading quickly, pronouncing words when reading aloud, and understanding what was read.
So for a dyslexic, stumbling across a u instead of you would be a problem, while for someone with dysgraphia writing u instead of you would be a nice shortcut.

And as a dyslexic, yes, I recongise words differently. I will read a u as a oo sound, not as you. And while it won't stop me from understanding after a second or so, it will slow down my reading of whatever message I might be looking at.

Either way, I think if you post or send a text, you are the one trying to communicate something. The least you can do is try and ensure people can read what you're trying to say.

I thought you have dyscalculia and not dyslexia?

Your last point is true, but what if you simply cannot do that due to the learning difficulty you have? Should they be tarred and feathered like the poster on page 1 is willing to do?

DublinWriter · 14-07-2015 02:26PM

biko wrote: »

So why do they do it?

In faith, doest thou feele irkith bye such practyse?

eamonnq · 14-07-2015 02:29PM

OiL RiG wrote: »

*I am not actually invited to a party by the lake tomorrow, but the point stands. It's really not that difficult or time consuming to write properly.

Don't worry, there will be other parties that you may get invited to, or you can have your own party and don't invite any of them!!!

Baron Kurtz · 14-07-2015 02:29PM

valoren wrote: »

Personally, it's a useful filter to determine who is an idiot and who is not.

There's no real need to add any more to this thread. This says it all.

Shenshen · 14-07-2015 02:30PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

I thought you have dyscalculia and not dyslexia?

Your last point is true, but what if you simply cannot do that due to the learning difficulty you have? Should they be tarred and feathered like the poster on page 1 is willing to do?

Nope, that was a poster called Samaris. I'm Shenshen. But yes, easy enough to mistake

In my personal experience, people who actually have a reading/writing disorder can usually be spotted by the very careful attention they pay to their spelling and punctuation. They overcompensate. They proof-read their posts before clicking submit. They use spell checkers (and these days, sometimes end up with US spellings because of this).

I wouldn't tar or feather anyone over their spelling, but I do find that if it's too much of an effort for me to read what they've written because they couldn't be bothered, I can't be bothered to read it.
I might miss out on pearls of socratic wisdom, but that's the risk I take.

darkpagandeath · 14-07-2015 02:34PM

I'm going to go with Language and writing evolving all the time. I mean where did € come from :pac::pac::pac:

eamonnq · 14-07-2015 02:34PM

Shenshen wrote: »

I might miss out on pearls of socratic wisdom, but that's the risk I take.

I'd say there is little danger of that on boards.

Eugene Norman · 14-07-2015 02:37PM

The polls a bit off. I wouldn't use it on here, but it's surely acceptable in an informal SMS message.

Shorthand has been common for centuries, it's only in the typing/computer era (ignoring stenographers) that it disappeared from most writing.

Talib Fiasco · 14-07-2015 02:37PM

Shenshen wrote: »

Nope, that was a poster called Samaris. I'm Shenshen. But yes, easy enough to mistake

In my personal experience, people who actually have a reading/writing disorder can usually be spotted by the very careful attention they pay to their spelling and punctuation. They overcompensate. They proof-read their posts before clicking submit. They use spell checkers (and these days, sometimes end up with US spellings because of this).

I wouldn't tar or feather anyone over their spelling, but I do find that if it's too much of an effort for me to read what they've written because they couldn't be bothered, I can't be bothered to read it.
I might miss out on pearls of socratic wisdom, but that's the risk I take.

Hahahaha my apologies, perhaps I might be dyslexic myself :P

I am desperate for proof reading my texts/posts before I send them but that's more of an OCD thing than anything else, but I agree even those with learning difficulties should proof read too. It's clear though that education is critical. As a student teacher, and please God in a year or so, a teacher, I was astounded by some children I have encountered with literacy difficulties and this isn't so much a new thing either. There is a massive emphasis put on aiding people with dyslexia and other MGLD's which is essential, but this explicit intervention is definitely something that is new which makes me wonder how many people cannot even proof read their texts/letters as they were never taught the basics of revising, editing and redrafting their writing.