British Isles bad, Irish Sea good?

Duckworth_Luas · 13-07-2015 04:25PM

Your Superior wrote: »

So why don't the British have a problem with the Irish Sea? The problems have been both ways.

Also, Europe isn't a nation, so poor analogy.

The Irish Sea is the English language name for the body of water. It describes, from an English point of view, the crossing required to reach Ireland from Britain.

The Irish Language name for it is Muir Mannan, the Sea of Man, named after the Celtic god Manann Mac Lir.

Your Superior · 13-07-2015 04:26PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

The Irish Sea is the English language name for the body of water. It describes, from an English point of view, the crossing required to reach Ireland from Britain.

The Irish Language name for it is Muir Mannan, the Sea of Man, named after the Celtic god Manann Mac Lir.

Yes, and it is used so widely....

WesternZulu · 13-07-2015 04:26PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Wales and Scotland ?

'The Irish Sea' is an English name...I'd be willing to bet that it was named by the British if you have an issue with it.

Would Britain like if these islands were called 'The Irish Isles'...would they feck!

Harry Palmr · 13-07-2015 04:27PM

Christ didn't AH used to be like this all the time? Its like the Belfast Agreement never happened.

Your Superior · 13-07-2015 04:27PM

WesternZulu wrote: »

'The Irish Sea' is an English name...I'd be willing to bet that it was named by the British if you have an issue with it.

Would Britain like if these islands were called 'The Irish Isles'...would they feck!

Yeah, you see it wouldn't be standard to name the islands by the smaller of the two main ones. Ireland is smaller, you see?

Junkyard Tom · 13-07-2015 04:28PM

You're Superior wrote: »

So why should the people of Britain care what you think?

I'm sure they don't. I, like many others, reject the validity of the term if that sticks in yours or anyone else's craw that's your problem. Get over it.

British Isles it is, then.

No. Stop getting your knickers in a twist because many of us reject the term.

Duckworth_Luas · 13-07-2015 04:28PM

Your Superior wrote: »

Yes, and it is used so widely....

No it has gone out of fashion and usage, just like British Isles.

Your Superior · 13-07-2015 04:29PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

No it has gone out of fashion and usage, just like British Isles.

Only in Ireland. To the rest of the world it is the British Isles.

WesternZulu · 13-07-2015 04:29PM

Your Superior wrote: »

Yeah, you see it wouldn't be standard to name the islands by the smaller of the two main ones. Ireland is smaller, you see?

Would they like if it was called 'The French Isles' then since the two islands are floating off the coast of France?

I doubt it somehow!

Your Superior · 13-07-2015 04:30PM

WesternZulu wrote: »

Would they like if it was called 'The French Isles' then since the two islands are floating off the coast of France?

I doubt it somehow!

Since France is not an island, your comment makes no sense.

darkpagandeath · 13-07-2015 04:31PM

WesternZulu wrote: »

'The Irish Sea' is an English name...I'd be willing to bet that it was named by the British if you have an issue with it.

Would Britain like if these islands were called 'The Irish Isles'...would they feck!

I'm not Irish. Geographical terms don't tend to bother me in the slightest.

The Backwards Man · 13-07-2015 04:32PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Christ didn't AH used to be like this all the time? Its like the Belfast Agreement never happened.

It's trivial nonsense that only people with nothing better to do get worked about. If you were living in Biafra you'd know what worry was.

WesternZulu · 13-07-2015 04:32PM

Your Superior wrote: »

Since France is not an island, your comment makes no sense.

You could argue that the British Isles makes no sense either especially since the republic gained independence.

The fact that so many people don't like the term, and it isn't used by both governments, suggests that the term is well past its sell by date.

Duckworth_Luas · 13-07-2015 04:32PM

Your Superior wrote: »

Only in Ireland. To the rest of the world it is the British Isles.

I've never heard anyone from British North America or German South-West Africa use the term ever.

RayM · 13-07-2015 04:32PM

I hate it when people over on the mainland call it the 'British Isles'.

Your Superior · 13-07-2015 04:33PM

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/07/13/wwn-guide-to-overreacting-when-someone-thinks-ireland-is-part-of-the-uk/

Junkyard Tom · 13-07-2015 04:34PM

I wonder how the British would be with these islands being referred to as 'The European Archipelago' which would surely be more accurate seeing as European does not connote a distinct country or nation of people like British does.

osarusan · 13-07-2015 04:34PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

the Isle of Man

It should really be called 'The Isle of Person'

SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS, UNITE.

13-07-2015 04:35PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

I've never heard anyone from British North America or German South-West Africa use the term ever.

What about anyone from the Dutch East Indies?

darkpagandeath · 13-07-2015 04:37PM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I wonder how the British would be with these islands being referred to as 'The European Archipelago' which would surely be more accurate seeing as European does not connote a distinct country or nation of people like British does.

Would the British isles not have been around before Europe was ? Was it not Christendom

Your Superior · 13-07-2015 04:38PM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I wonder how the British would be with these islands being referred to as 'The European Archipelago' which would surely be more accurate seeing as European does not connote a distinct country or nation of people like British does.

There's no such country as "Britain"

rubadub · 13-07-2015 04:39PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Why do some people feign innocence over this question?

Its really weird, feinging ignorance in what is presumably an attempt to appear smart, which backfires bigtime.

Putting history aside, if it was flipped around and it was called the British Sea and Irish Isles, then I reckon the British would be complaining and the Irish would not give a damn about that sea being named that way. I could imagine plenty of brits getting riled up if an english sportsman won something and all the press said "another great success for the Irish Isles"

Your Superior · 13-07-2015 04:41PM

rubadub wrote: »

Its really weird, feinging ignorance in what is presumably an attempt to appear smart, which backfires bigtime.

Putting history aside, if it was flipped around and it was called the British Sea and Irish Isles, then I reckon the British would be complaining and the Irish would not give a damn about that sea being named that way. I could imagine plenty of brits getting riled up if an english sportsman won something and all the press said "another great success for the Irish Isles"

Usual nonsense whataboutery from the nation that hailed that good Irishman Tony Cascarino, among many many others.

Junkyard Tom · 13-07-2015 04:45PM

Your Superior wrote: »

There's no such country as "Britain"

That's true but there is a British nation and the word 'British' has connotations.

British

1. of or relating to Great Britain or the United Kingdom, or to its people or language.

2. of the British Commonwealth or (formerly) the British Empire.
noun

1. the British people.

rubadub · 13-07-2015 04:46PM

Your Superior wrote: »

Usual nonsense whataboutery

You realise nobody believes you're as fucking stupid as you are trying to make out.

efb · 13-07-2015 04:49PM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

That's true but there is a British nation and the word 'British' has connotations.

Britishness is something about Mo Farah according to the Google ad

Ruu · 13-07-2015 04:50PM

They took Terry Wogan!

efb · 13-07-2015 04:52PM

seamus wrote: »

Bit of a silly question, it's pretty obvious. "British Isles" makes the implication that the both islands are part of Britain.

"Irish Sea" doesn't really make any such implications. No more than the "English Channel" does anyway.

I always thought the Englsh Channel was BBC...

(Robbed from Animaniacs I think)

super_furry · 13-07-2015 04:52PM

Ruu wrote: »

They took Terry Wogan!

Yeah but we got Jack Charlton in return. Good swap that

Realt Dearg Sec · 13-07-2015 04:57PM

super_furry wrote: »

Yeah but we got Jack Charlton in return. Good swap that

And Tony Cascarino.

British Isles bad, Irish Sea good?

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