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Andy Lee v Billy Joe Saunders - 19th Dec Manchester Arena (Date & Venue Updated)

  • 20-06-2015 07:09PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭


    This match up has been confirmed on twitter. Should be something special to have a stadium fight. Really looking forward to this one. Both fighters are not without their flaws and I think it will make up for an interesting technical battle. Two travellers fighting for a world title for the first time. Saunders should bring a good following over with him too so should make for a wonderful night.

    I have Andy getting a late KO. I'll break down my reasons for my pick later on. Who's heading to this? I'll most certainly be there.

    Who wins this fight? 76 votes

    Lee KO/TKO
    0%
    Lee point
    65%
    super_furrypuntosportingefbBig EarsBrian?yabadabadowalshbmenoscemoHigginsJjam_on_toastDaroxtarmooreman09ElWalrus3hn2givr7mx1scIron Hidemagma69blade1telekond1980degzs 50 votes
    Draw
    23%
    [Deleted User]shels4everdeath1234567callaway92killwillThe_Kew_TourIang87unknown13TMOrulescoronaextraprettyboy81AdamocovicMorrison JHandsomeRoverJ Mysterioakelly02matthew the statueMantis Toboggan 18 votes
    Saunders KO/TKO
    2%
    Hazysmg1982 2 votes
    Saunders points
    7%
    celt262ShatterProofDanteFlashdeanSpurionChris_Bradley 6 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭magma69


    Lee point
    Members of the travelling community. Andy Lee is from a settled traveller background and I believe Billy Joe Saunders is from a Romani gypsy background.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,187 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Where would I get tickets for this please?

    I posted earlier in the year about getting a ticket for this if it was in Ireland for OH, mad boxing fan and a special birthday for him too....

    Thanks so much if you can give me a heads up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭magma69


    Lee point
    Where would I get tickets for this please?

    I posted earlier in the year about getting a ticket for this if it was in Ireland for OH, mad boxing fan and a special birthday for him too....

    Thanks so much if you can give me a heads up.

    They aren't on sale yet but I'll be following this closely so I'll let you know as soon as they are available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,187 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    magma69 wrote: »
    They aren't on sale yet but I'll be following this closely so I'll let you know as soon as they are available.

    Very good of you. I really appreciate that. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    Draw
    killwill wrote: »
    Andy Lee and Billy Joe Saunders confirmed for Sept 19th in Thomond Park.

    Proper 50/50 World Title fight, hopefully Andy Lee delivers in front of his own fans!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 BrickFist


    Lee point
    I have my hotel room booked for this already, just waiting for the tickets to be released.

    I expect Lee to win by late KO, Saunders just hasn't got good stamina and Andy has murderous power in that right hook. I reckon Saunders will tire and Lee will catch him late.

    Btw how many can fit in the stadium with pitch seating ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Billy Joe on points, will be having a decent bet on it as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,283 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Lee point
    If Lee doesn't KO him then Lee will be tickled into defeat!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,564 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Draw
    Will be my first boxing fight. Looking forward to it.

    Isn't Lee related to tyson fury? Would be good to see a few of the younger furys on the under card.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Chrissybhoy


    Lee point
    Lads will you post when tickets are on sale I want to go myself


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Lee point
    Lads will you post when tickets are on sale I want to go myself

    No, they're mine....ALLL MINE !!! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    Yeah cannot see past a Saunders decision. Lee will start slow and Saunders should rack in the rounds, then Lee will come back but won't be enough. Could be a very close decision win. Should be a cracker though, I'll be there...hope the undercard is decent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭mooreman09


    Lee point
    Yeah cannot see past a Saunders decision. Lee will start slow and Saunders should rack in the rounds, then Lee will come back but won't be enough. Could be a very close decision win. Should be a cracker though, I'll be there...hope the undercard is decent

    Fair point, Lee does start slow and Saunders is sharp and effective early in fights. However Lee has only been beaten when he was overpowered and outmuscled.

    I think Andy is the fitter, stronger and more powerful fighter between the two and that will tell over twelve. Its plain to see that Saunders has stamina issues that will catch him out when he moves up and this is a step up for him.

    Andy has gotten past three very good and highly touted undefeated fighters in the last year or so that were operating on a much higher level than Saunders.

    I think that in order to really make a case for Saunders, you have to presume alot of things will happen. To make a case for Andy, most of the evidence is already there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Alpha_zero


    mooreman09 wrote: »
    Fair point, Lee does start slow and Saunders is sharp and effective early in fights. However Lee has only been beaten when he was overpowered and outmuscled.

    I think Andy is the fitter, stronger and more powerful fighter between the two and that will tell over twelve. Its plain to see that Saunders has stamina issues that will catch him out when he moves up and this is a step up for him.

    Andy has gotten past three very good and highly touted undefeated fighters in the last year or so that were operating on a much higher level than Saunders.

    I think that in order to really make a case for Saunders, you have to presume alot of things will happen. To make a case for Andy, most of the evidence is already there.

    Well Andy is also no stranger to stamina issues as well. He was being out boxed by both Craig McEwan and John Jackson and needed the hail mary KO to snatch victory. The Korobov fight was closer but he was still getting out boxed.

    Saunders is European level and has fought a much lower caliber of opposition than Andy. For me Andy needs a dominating win to really solidify his position as a legitimate champ, whether by a commanding UD or a devastating KO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭mooreman09


    Lee point
    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    Well Andy is also no stranger to stamina issues as well. He was being out boxed by both Craig McEwan and John Jackson and needed the hail mary KO to snatch victory. The Korobov fight was closer but he was still getting out boxed.

    Saunders is European level and has fought a much lower caliber of opposition than Andy. For me Andy needs a dominating win to really solidify his position as a legitimate champ, whether by a commanding UD or a devastating KO.

    I agree on McEwan out boxing him but Lee was the fitter man that night, the cards were level after 9 going into the last round. If it had have been a Championship fight over 12 rounds it wouldn't have been considered a lucky win. Just a strong finish and great KO.

    The Jackson fight was an absolute nightmare for Lee and I think that due to the 154lb limit, he would not have come on strong. However he still had the strength to get him out of there.

    He was down by a couple of rounds to Korobov but in fairness looked comfortable enough after the opening couple.

    Saunders has only fought to Euro level so far as you said but I believe his ceiling is higher than that. Win or lose, he'll probably win a title at some point. He's only 25 and has alot of tools.

    Would love to see Andy putting on a big dominant performance, but I'm afraid it'll be more heart in the mouth stuff where he'll pull it from the fire. Saunders I reckon will take 5/6 of the first half when Lee will take over with a couple of KD's and either stop him or win with 2/3 points to spare. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Lee point
    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    Well Andy is also no stranger to stamina issues as well. He was being out boxed by both Craig McEwan and John Jackson and needed the hail mary KO to snatch victory. The Korobov fight was closer but he was still getting out boxed.

    Saunders is European level and has fought a much lower caliber of opposition than Andy. For me Andy needs a dominating win to really solidify his position as a legitimate champ, whether by a commanding UD or a devastating KO.

    The knockdown in the 9th round meant Lee was level on 2 scorecards going into the final round against McEwan. He only needed to win the 10th to win the fight. While stamina problems were indeed an issue for Lee in the past, he actually outlasted McEwan in that fight, who's punch resistance seemed to escape him mainly due to fatigue more than the power of Andy's shots.

    Lee's training has changed greatly since he moved to Adam Booth however. Stamina seems to be more a strong point of his these days than a weakness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭sxt


    Plus Booths style is more stamina conserving. His fighters throw alot less punches ,tend to circle their opponents more , and use alot of feints- see david haye


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭rvpalldway


    Lee point
    Does anyone know who might it be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,167 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Lee point
    rvpalldway wrote: »
    Does anyone know who might it be?

    Talks of Katie Taylor for one.
    Press Conference put back a week so next tues. 14/07


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,266 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    blade1 wrote: »
    Talks of Katie Taylor for one.
    Press Conference put back a week so next tues. 14/07
    yeah katie said it on the radio last week


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Would actually lean towards Andy for a change in this one. Saunders is a nice little boxer but nothing special. Korobov-lite. Of course he'll still out-box Andy for long stretches but I think Andy will connect often enough and solidly enough to swing things his way

    Booth has done wonders for Andy. For the first time in his career he has evasive footwork. Steward had him for a decade and didn't give him that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,625 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Lee point
    Any update on when tickets will be on sale ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭magma69


    Lee point
    yabadabado wrote: »
    Any update on when tickets will be on sale ?

    I'd imagine next week sometime. Press conference next Tuesday, so we should know then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,167 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Lee point
    Anyone want to take a guess at ticket prices?
    I had ringside seats when he last fought in Limerick but expect it to be way more costly this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭magma69


    Lee point
    blade1 wrote: »
    Anyone want to take a guess at ticket prices?
    I had ringside seats when he last fought in Limerick but expect it to be way more costly this time.

    Complete guess but I reckon the nose bleeders corner seats will start at 40. 60 for center stand. prob 100, 150, 200 then for ring side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,167 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Lee point
    magma69 wrote: »
    Complete guess but I reckon the nose bleeders corner seats will start at 40. 60 for center stand. prob 100, 150, 200 then for ring side.

    Thanks magma, hopefully this time Paul O'Connell doesn't sit in front of me!:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭magma69


    Lee point
    Been confirmed that tickets will be on sale next Tuesday 14th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭rvpalldway


    Lee point
    how big will the intrest be in buying the tickets?Will i have to try buy the tickets straight away after there released or could I wait an hour because ofr work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Draw
    magma69 wrote: »
    Been confirmed that tickets will be on sale next Tuesday 14th.

    Have they said what kind of prices we can expect? Will they be sold through Ticketmaster or what? Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Tickets will start at €30, pretty good starting price!


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