Live Aid this week 30 years ago - 13th July 1985

dd972 · 11-07-2015 02:31AM

OP, If there's a Phil Collins revival we'll banish you from these shores like a Ra informant...

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 11-07-2015 03:31AM

il gatto wrote: »

I suppose. I mean all those classic albums of the last 10 years like................um.
When this era starts releasing the likes of Rubber Soul, Exile on Main Street, The Queen is Dead, The Bends, Ziggy Stardust, Appetite for Destruction, Led Zep 2, Electic Ladyland, Darkness on the Edge of Town etc. etc. etc. you might have a point. Otherwise you need to stop talking and grow some ears.

I don't think it's totally fair that you've picked excellent albums from the 70's, 80's and 90's to demonstrate how poor the 'current' music era is.

You have to put Radiohead as a current music era band as well in fairness, their best stuff in my opinion is post 2000. There's also a lot of Morrissey stuff post 2000 that is exceptional. So the lines can be blurred.

There's been so many phenomenonal albums made since the turn of the century I think it's wrong to say music died and is no longer good. Queens of the Stoneage, Interpol, Kid Cudi, Outkast, Artic Monkeys, LCD Soundsystem, The Strokes, The Black Keys, Muse, Jay Z, Sigur Ros, Beck, The National ect ect ect can all be considered 'current' era musicians and have produced outstanding stuff that will stand the test of time.

I think what has changed in the modern era is that music tastes have massively diversified because of the internet. You'll have someone who's into techno sitting next to someone who's into Hip Hop sitting next to someone who likes Pop, whereas before it was far more broad.

il gatto · 11-07-2015 04:08AM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

I don't think it's totally fair that you've picked excellent albums from the 70's, 80's and 90's to demonstrate how poor the 'current' music era is.

You have to put Radiohead as a current music era band as well in fairness, their best stuff in my opinion is post 2000. There's also a lot of Morrissey stuff post 2000 that is exceptional. So the lines can be blurred.

There's been so many phenomenonal albums made since the turn of the century I think it's wrong to say music died and is no longer good. Queens of the Stoneage, Interpol, Kid Cudi, Outkast, Artic Monkeys, LCD Soundsystem, The Strokes, The Black Keys, Muse, Jay Z, Sigur Ros, Beck, The National ect ect ect can all be considered 'current' era musicians and have produced outstanding stuff that will stand the test of time.

I think what has changed in the modern era is that music tastes have massively diversified because of the internet. You'll have someone who's into techno sitting next to someone who's into Hip Hop sitting next to someone who likes Pop, whereas before it was far more broad.

I like a lot of those bands but would still question if even they have produced anything that will be stone cold classics.
I only picked a few favourites from past decade. There's hundreds more. These days the "special" albums seem few and far between. Definitely not phenomenal. IMO obviously.
Radiohead and Morrissey, while still active in this era are not a product of it. They're are a different generation. Beck as well.
I feel that rather than diversifying, music has homogenised. Q Magazine (when it was still worth a read) had a piece around 2000 about the end of tribes. It stated that in these days of digital media, the fact that music cost less to possess meant people would end up listening to bits of everything. Your list demonstrates this. You've put Jay Z and Sigur Ros on the same list. People are more likely than ever to listen to juxtaposed music on their MP3 players than before.

darkpagandeath · 11-07-2015 06:03AM

il gatto wrote: »

I like a lot of those bands but would still question if even they have produced anything that will be stone cold classics.
I only picked a few favourites from past decade. There's hundreds more. These days the "special" albums seem few and far between. Definitely not phenomenal. IMO obviously.
Radiohead and Morrissey, while still active in this era are not a product of it. They're are a different generation. Beck as well.
I feel that rather than diversifying, music has homogenised. Q Magazine (when it was still worth a read) had a piece around 2000 about the end of tribes. It stated that in these days of digital media, the fact that music cost less to possess meant people would end up listening to bits of everything. Your list demonstrates this. You've put Jay Z and Sigur Ros on the same list. People are more likely than ever to listen to juxtaposed music on their MP3 players than before.

You mean like these days artists releasing greatest hit's albums with tracks on them that were never even rated :P

11-07-2015 10:11AM

Draven Magnificent Ring wrote: »

You went to school in the middle of July?

Yep, I was brought up in London and we only ever had six weeks summer holidays

Cold War Kid · 11-07-2015 07:30PM

efb wrote: »

It achieved nothing, the money was essentially squandered.

It made Queen v popular gave Bob Geldof an unneeded ego boost and wasted the conscience of Westerners.

In what way was the money squandered? I don't understand the criticism of Live Aid. It's as if it would have been better that it didn't happen, which surely would make no sense.

darkpagandeath · 11-07-2015 07:32PM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

In what way was the money squandered? I don't understand the criticism of Live Aid. It's as if it would have been better that it didn't happen, which surely would make no sense.

What did it do exactly ? There was no Famine. Are the same people not still living in them camps.

Cold War Kid · 11-07-2015 07:40PM

Gave food to hungry people. It wasn't claimed it would solve everything. It was something, which is better than nothing. The cynicism is only for the sake of cynicism.

darkpagandeath · 11-07-2015 07:45PM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Gave food to hungry people. It wasn't claimed it would solve everything. It was something, which is better than nothing. The cynicism is only for the sake of cynicism.

What cynicism, The same people are in the camps reliant on aid.

fatherted1969 · 11-07-2015 07:55PM

I'd probably be biased being 45 but think the 80s, early 90s were the best era for music. Thought that concert was brilliant. Queen and U2 stole the show imo

efb · 12-07-2015 02:25AM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

In what way was the money squandered? I don't understand the criticism of Live Aid. It's as if it would have been better that it didn't happen, which surely would make no sense.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/24/g8.debtrelief

cajonlardo · 12-07-2015 11:54AM

efb wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/24/g8.debtrelief

By his own admission "Experts" like himself haven't a bulls notion of how many people died over there - not even to the nearest half million. Given that one admission of ignorance on perhaps the most pertinent and basic fact, how do you find him credible?

Were the news reports showing food distribution to hundreds of thousands faked?

Was RTE, BBC, UTV and the worlds media in on Geldof's deceit?

When the price of shipping was too high, the Live Aid crew bought their own ships. I doubt the guy who wrote that article is capable of buying a used car and transporting a take away.

Saying that the monies were used in the resettlement and other policies that contributed to the deaths of hundreds of thousands is an abstract concept. Do people want to believe that if Live Aid had not occurred then neither would the resettlement?

Some donated what they could afford, some donated more than they could afford. A LOT of that money was converted into food and a LOT of starving people got to eat that food. I know that is terribly simple but that is sometimes how life and death is.

branie2 · 12-07-2015 12:00PM

I was in Lourdes that day

PippaChic · 12-07-2015 12:21PM

fatherted1969 wrote: »

I'd probably be biased being 45 but think the 80s, early 90s were the best era for music. Thought that concert was brilliant. Queen and U2 stole the show imo

Same age here, but while those years produced lots of legendary hits there was a lot of rubbish also. Live Aid had the beast of the crop!

Personally I enjoy the many epic hits of the 70s, 80s and 90s - but I also love listening to Bruno Mars and Olly Murs!

Cold War Kid · 12-07-2015 04:08PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

What cynicism, The same people are in the camps reliant on aid.

efb wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/24/g8.debtrelief

The point is, they did something - which is obviously better than not doing something. The criticism of it is illogical. It's like saying don't bother going to the rescue of a person who has been mugged as this won't wipe out the mugging problem.

efb · 13-07-2015 02:05AM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

The point is, they did something - which is obviously better than not doing something. The criticism of it is illogical. It's like saying don't bother going to the rescue of a person who has been mugged as this won't wipe out the mugging problem.

You wouldn't celebrate it if the rescue was a failure. Live Aid failed.

Niemoj · 13-07-2015 04:37AM

I read the first word as Lidl and the second as Aldi.

I need sleep.

darkpagandeath · 13-07-2015 07:49AM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

The point is, they did something - which is obviously better than not doing something. The criticism of it is illogical. It's like saying don't bother going to the rescue of a person who has been mugged as this won't wipe out the mugging problem.

Lets try this Again, "There was no Famine" So what exactly did it do ? People do know what forced relocation is right ?

Cold War Kid · 13-07-2015 08:21PM

Failed what? It got food to hungry people which is all it was trying to do. Whether there was a famine or not, people were starving.

jem · 14-07-2015 03:13PM

Have to say that I remember it so well. I was 17 y/o.
Double tape deck taping the best bits. Lovely day outside and yet all inside.
U", Queen, Bowie outstanding. Sada fab looking. Tina and Mick and the skirt!!.
Will always remember The Cars and Drive and also freddie Mercury and Brian May playing/singing "Is this the World He created

Led Zeppelins epic failure and blaming Phil Collins.
Status Quo Rocking all over the world opening at Wembly.

Bowie heroes

Paul McCartheys failed mic( someone tripped and pulled out a cable )

Ah the great memories.

Live Aid this week 30 years ago - 13th July 1985

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