Cork GAA Discussion Thread

rvpalldway wrote: »

Cann the munstaa final gi to extra time/ would it be possible to get the 17.44 train

Stay around for the celebrations !

It makes sense wrote: »

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

A heartbreaking loss there's no point in trying to say otherwise but my heart goes out to the players and management in players have given there all huge huge ask with out talismanic Kingston captain who got one six last day as I said before the game in fact I think I was one of the few urged caution as I said he loss cannot be underestimated and this wasn't a clear cut cork win in beat limerick twice was always huge ask but Kingston in big big moment would got some huge seventeenth wides cork had


Cork dominated some key areas and as Mehapoy said were better team but at end day limerick scored more and only thing Cork couldn't do score need was greatest
I'm not going to single out lads missed key scores as I'm sure there gutted and my heart goes out them but I said in the post today scoring other games fine but tonight huge pressure beat same team twice and pressure got Cork lads
That's where Kingston loss was huge
If Kingston was there cork would won imo


Look at our forwards there immensely talented but bar Healy only three other scored and only got point each so composure and expirencr score pressure on is where Kingston was missed as limerick I said in post Kingston turned previous game and brought cork back last year game with a goal
He's calm and expirencr and composure would helped rest unit also as there were disciples missing a leader so to speak

Limerick key men were excellent, louhghin grimes and casey good and vital goal and Murphy and flangan and they all had grit expirence and leadership and brilliant hurling and expirence last year team to win a game should lost
Limerick normally past loose these games but sign very very good team win game should lost in championship and they not good last year but will imo improve as young lads now are gone shadow last year excellent team in got munster final so pressure is off for the tipp game

Tippeary may be favourite but quirks out and limerick huge areas improve will imo have a chance
I don't think there all Ireland in them but I hope and love if they won it as they deserve one


I doubted daly and o Connor dynamic in two manager no coach but be fair it's working and daly done good but there's still lot work on for Limerick for him to be regarded as great coach but I still think he better manager but time will tell


Caroll again outstanding as sweeper, great player

There's no doubt this is a set back in its best prepared cork team best management in years and yet still fell short unlike previous years Cork lost cork actually were the better team here
I wouldn't change much from what is being done currently under age as it's working but I'd increase gdo to twenty and keep work going as Cork just didn't have accuracy tonight and no consolation but Cork were definitely up there all other aspects
Out of interest ttm were the wides really bad shots from all angles or in any other game easy points surprised looney no score must of been held well as was o'mahony. Unfortunately another season passes by and the wait goes on the so called best team in a long time and still we cannot grap the top table at minor level. Few comments on the panel Dunne three years on panel but sub last night cannot remember him even taking the bull by the horns. Powter football captain I know he is a good player drafted in but what does that say about rest of lads who pick hurling first obviously we do not see all training/challenge matches but maybe we do not have the depth we think we have.

Wides were tough enough shots from distance and not overall straight forward
Cork had goal chance also


Powter is awesome footballer and remember saying poster here before Xmas shouldn't be ahead rest and wouldn't start him but with Kingston out he was added rightly so for experienced and leadership in he played minor football two huge games v kerry last year well and richestoen in both codes in munster final
So I think he was brought in for leadership and I don't think he was poor


Looney was quiet but form outstanding for aghada and Imokilly but more importantly harty cup this year and Dean Ryan cup year before and limerick as sub last this year

He will have better days
Cork lacked experience of key players like limerick lads last year had
Gunning should been a sub
O mahony was held but again form was outstanding senior club and under twenty one last year and good charville and ist day v limerick


Overall I thought panel picked was correct
There was always going be close calls as Cork huge options this year
Going on form it was imo picked correctly and one huge difference cork had loosing was Kingston loss and they could not control that imo

Hopefully it be dry in Wexford tomorrow night

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/wallace-urges-cork-hurlers-to-get-more-physical-193564.html
John Meyler was totally correct today but he's another voice saying what said three years ago yet nothing changes
Daniel kearney said it this year he wants tougher club championship and he's not big man yet no one listens
You would hope someone with power change club scene would bring in stronger ref guide lines


Last night Cork minors actually were impressive physically and definitely were not soft in hurling
Probably is these young lads will become soft hurlers playing in soft too nice hurling championship unless things change

Would agree was at a minor match last night and the standard of referee leaves a lot to be desired amazing amount of soft frees given keeper coming out with ball and the slightest touch from a forward free out even the players were baffled by some of the decisions worse think was a player got the butt of the hurley to his ear split it blood pouring from a sloppy pull and he let play go only when he saw the blood and stopped play and booked the other fellow. The Ccb has do to something about this as we are going no where with the current standard

fricatus wrote: »

What do you think about the scheduling of this match? The 7 p.m. throw-in time surely would have to put off a lot of travelling support, given the journey to Wexford (2 hours minimum there and back... plus the time to get out of Wexford town and through New Ross). Plus there's the football the next day in Kerry.

Not saying it will be decisive, but it certainly stacks the cards further in favour of the home team...

When should it have been held.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/cork-star-who-remains-a-rebel-45-years-after-crossing-the-enemy-line-to-live-in-the-kingdom-31348201.html

Great read and the point regards Donaghey that often is lost with some Cork management past and present when they put a big man as target full forward is Donaghey actually had the all round skill set to be effective
It's not just pick a tall lad and bomb high balls in and he gets huge scores

Yerra Dinny is a Kerryman now from lish-ning to Weeeshie on Terrace Talk.

http://www.eveningecho.ie/sport/the-paudie-kissane-column-kerry-have-always-pulled-forwards-back/

Very good read by a coach I rate extremely highly
Didn't rate him as great playerin was just good imo but outstanding potential as coach and I love see him next coach cork minor football with James McCarthy and possibly ephie Fitzgerald again with Derek javanese as Cork have good potential next year minors

Some excellent points by him but this was written Thursday so be fair didn't know kerry team then as named that night so only thing I disagree is says kerry aren't complacent
I think they are and warm weather camp just weeks ago proved that


By leaving maher out who outstanding v tipp Gooch Murphy wonderful geaney among others and weak full back line kerry in Enright only starter last seven games I think kerry are complacent in yes want win but they clearly belive there second team point beat Cork in half forward line is one graft hard work not as creative as it could be and seems kerry want contain cork for half then bring on subs


I don't believe kerry are naive to not know like Kisssne said Cork need good start as kerry get lead Cork have huge ask
So imo kerry not going for the game from the off by trying finish early which many thought they would do imo picking team shows complacency Sunday and if cork get half time have real chance as be fair that kerry team named is not great

As Kisssne said match up have be vital

Kerry belive a team with out probably five starters are still good enough beat Cork and that may be cork saving grace as kerry are not that great just yet

Wexford are horrendous. I'd expect Dunne to be done with Wexford after tonight.

Christ Cork are muck. Is there any player on that team that you look at that you could call a great player. What is going on?

Cork not scoring for 20 minutes is very worrying!

lim4ev wrote: »

Can't believe how bad wexford were when is the draw being made?

Monday morning. Cork v Clare or Limerick, first drawn gets home advantage unlike previous years where it was a neutral venue

Great to win, in any win is good in Wexford park however we must not be like other fans inother counties that at times become they can be naive and get carried away with a win and no there was nothing seen today in my view to show cork will win an all Ireland but I saw some of the old failings still there and a lot of questions still remains that it remains to be seen if we have the answers for them in the bigger tests.
Now this may seem harsh in the light of victory but we have had plentyof false dawns in cork gaa In the past so we must call it as it is.
Job done but hardly convincing overall in the second half.


Cork were terrific in the ist half with regards work ethic, hunger, want, and desire but have no doubt the wind with Cork in that half gave cork a huge advantage as once cork had a lead they settled where if Wexford had the wind and got the early lead it would have been a good test for Cork.

I was delighted Wexford came at cork in the second half in one way in it showed a lot of work to be done and up to management to rectify it and it showed our problems.

I lamented cork never had a chance v waterford with Harnedy out many times here.
Christ above he's importance to cork is like keane to united, mccaw to the all blacks, o connell to munster, maher to tipp, galvin in he's day to kerry, Martin Johnson to England, he's absolutely three hundred ten per cent vital to cork hurling as breathes leadership, hunger and balls I mean balls now real real balls of steel and a want and work ethic,a sheer hunger to block, hook, run, create, take belts, score goals or points,roar on he's team,it was tear jerking it was so so immensely beautiful to watch as these hurlers are a rare breed in cork hurling now.

Roy keane love or hate him, it's irrelevant in he single handedly dragged an average Ireland team to a world cup with a breathtaking performance v Holland in Dublin and like wise done the same with united to a champions league final v juventus by a superb show of leadership.

Harnedy display of leadership tonight single handedly gave this team it's rebirth and was like jesus being resurrected leading he's disciples in he's just back from injury and what a performance.

Lehane deserves the man of the match and played a whole game but Harnedy with he's sheer drive and will to win ball on the ground or the air set the template for cork in the game.

Soon as he went off it was noticeable how cork crumbled and were devoid of leadership in the forwards.
He was right to be subbed as he only just from injury so you don't risk him for another game.
If Harnedy misses another game for Cork their beaten before they start in truth.

This legend absoultey a true legend, a warrior of conviction among the great, great, really really great, i mean the great players is the heart beat of Cork like canty was in football and he should be captain next year as yes Nash is good but Christ sweet lord he's inspirational further out the field for cork.

If we had three more player like Harnedy we'd be flying
Harnedy would walk on the kk team and be better with a better team.

Thank you Harnedy your an absolute credit to cork and you show the true values of cork hurling .
He took my breath away tonight in a
Sensational epically magnificent leadership performance.

If cork get lorcan back we will be stronger and while we won't win the all Ireland we could on any day beat Galway, limerick, waterford, but clare would worry me as they had a huge win tonight and now they they have a fully fit team back so they have momentum now and they are going to be as real contenders to kk and tippeary.

The second half showed why cork won't win the all Ireland in they depend on Harnedy too much so kk or tipp will target him and Cork failed to keep the intensity up and Wexford I'm surprised were so poor but kk destroyed them but Cork couldn't do what kk done and put them away.

Nash made a great save and was composed throughout with a good variation and accuracy with he's puck outs overall.
The full back line was good but it wasn't fully tested but Ellis playing deep was good and offers hope that cork may solve it this year and fair play to management as they kept mcdonnell off McDonald and cahalane had a good game while he's harshly critsed at times imo.


Murphy was good in the corner back position for Cork.
Mcdonnell was good and when the high ball went in to full back it was good Ellis was there and he's solid and with lorcan back offers cork hope in he can fill the centre back or cahalane also at centre back back and free Ellis for full back.


Cahalane had a fine game, good point but imo needs to be left in a central position not at corner or wing back.

Ellis was outstanding and is a warrior and is abrasive and aggressive and leads well with plenty of hurling.
He has yurned in to a terrific player and is irreplaceable with Corknow.

Murphy had a good game but is still raw in he's hooked too easily but that's up to landers to spot as coach and erase this
He was good and will get better.

Walsh used he's height well and was good at half back and should stay there the next day imo.
He had no pressure to shoot for scores and so relished in the freedom.

Kearney was everywhere and is a leader and warrior.
Cooper is still raw hurling wise but he's work rate and ability in winning dirty ball means he's deserving of a place.

Cronin had poor wides but like I said didn't need to score tonight but all he had to do was just limit le chin and he did it well.
Again another player some fans like to question but he was good again and won some good ball in the air.
Lehane was brilliant and is becoming consistent and when Cork needed a leader with Harnedy off, notice how horgan again when the need was greatest went he missing but with out a score nearly for twenty minutes lehane had the conviction to score a match turning point.
He got a great goal, hooked, blocked, won ball and created and scored a goal.

Cadogan was busyand worked hard but never really broke free but he's day will come.
Horgan again like I say was absolutely brilliant and wonderfully performed when cork had a run and went ahead and had control.
Flawless in the ist half he was.


But when Cork cried for leadership when Harnedy was off, horgan never stood up like the great great really really great i mean great players do and he's eight years now on the senior panel and an all star player.
He had a glorious chance to goal and again as seen if you look at he's record in missed goal chances down the years when he missed there awful wides and that was a poor wide again tonight.Now fair enough he got a late challenge that should be punished by the referee but I thought he could went for the shot earlier

At Half forward imo he didn't show any real improvement in the second half and again he's fading in and out of games at crucial times.

It Won't do v kk and tippeary so he must improve.

Lawton now I never thought he is a forward or midfield player for senior inter county.
But I said today,a poster here who I admire said he played well at half back for club before and would be good there and that poster was spot on.

Credit due he played the deep role working in the half back line and I thought hes work rate and hunger, he' blocked and hooked three times vitally to prevent scores and moved forward to get two points and always made himself available for the free pass, i was hugely impressed by him and I would hope he is not started half forward or midfield but name him there but play him in this deep role around half back the next game.


Wexford is not the ultimate test but he to be fair showed well in this role tonight.
It was a terrific display in the basics of the game that are often are unappreciated in games of hurling nowdays imo.

The good news is Cork won tonight and got two goals and none were conceded. The bad news is Cork had the wind so had a good start in the ist half but we're outscored in the second half and went off the boil and the full back wasn't fully tested either and horgan still is unconvincing when needed and the lack of depth in defence subs wise is a huge huge worry.
Even when lorchan mcloughlin is fit cork still have no real cover in defence.

We must be realistic after this win.
Wexford I must admit I was wrong were poorer than thought but the wind with Cork in the ist half gave cork momentum so no cork are not all ireland contenders after this one win but if we play limerick who won't learn a thing from westmeath, we with their orthodox styles suiting cork type of hurling, we would have a good chance to win And there's goals in limerick defence and at last cork showed a desire to go for goals tonight.
Limerick won't fear Cork either and understandably so.


At least JBM last game in charge wasn't in Wexford and if it's to be he's last game in charge at least hopefully it will be a top team that ends it and not team outside the top four.

They got the tactics right with a sweeper but in fairness it's been long overdue so while credit due to management tonight to be fair now we can't laud them with too much credit yet, as he as manager done what you expect a cork manager to do in to devise a game plan accordingly to your opponent's.

You would not thank your posts man for delivery of the the post as Roy keane would say.
Job done tonight but a lot of huge work ahead but it's great to be still in the championship tonight.
But going a long spell with out scoring is a huge worry as against the kk and tippeary and Clare's of this world they will blitz you scoring wise and the game would be over in a blink of an eye truth be told.

Does anyone have a blue terrace ticket? Urgent enough I know but Id buy it and collect it before the game near the stadium! Cheers if anyone does

We will be beaten in Killarney today,the question is by how much?