Reddit is Clueless

pablomakaveli · 03-07-2015 01:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So, in solidarity, at least 60% of the sections on Reddit made themselves private, some of them being the largest, and likely cut off millions in traffic that the site would usually get.

It is funny to think how the likes of buzzfeed and ladbible will be starved of content while r/funny is closed.:pac:

Darkglasses · 03-07-2015 01:40PM

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Boards is pretty bad in some ways as well. The thanks function is abused on here regularly for circlejerking. Also the layout on Boards means a single poster can derail a thread. On Reddit a troll can be simply downvoted off the page where they no longer impact on the thread itself.

Both sites have their good and bad points.

I don't think you can compare the circlejerking on Boards to Reddit though, on a lot of subreddits you only ever see one opinion, and everything else gets downvoted to invisibility. At least here you can read every comment equally unless it breaks a rule.

pablomakaveli · 03-07-2015 01:42PM

Darkglasses wrote: »

I don't think you can compare the circlejerking on Boards to Reddit though, on a lot of subreddits you only ever see one opinion, and everything else gets downvoted to invisibility. At least here you can read every comment equally unless it breaks a rule.

Thats certainly true. Ultimately though both Boards and Reddit have their good and bad points.

The Moldy Gowl · 03-07-2015 01:43PM

Vandango wrote: »

And you don't understand that this is Boards.ie and most Boarsdies couldn't give a crap about that shyte site.

Reddit is far better than boards. Far more interesting stuff on there and easier to organise than the way threads go here. I'll read the first few posts and leave the tread because it's too long.

Far better for pictures and 'funny' stuff. Even our ylyl thread is 2 days behind reddit and the reposted stuff isn't funny anymore.

You have way more people over there from different countries, compared to Dublin, and everyone else here.

Darkglasses · 03-07-2015 01:43PM

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Thats certainly true. Ultimately though both Boards and Reddit have their good and bad points.

Oh yeah for sure, nothing's perfect. I do like reddit for some things, like no matter what you're into, you can find an active place to discuss it. There's really nowhere here on boards to discuss e-sports, but there's countless active subreddits to chose from.

SmilesInMass · 03-07-2015 01:44PM

I just hope nofap stayed up or there will be a whole lot of ectoplasm and spooky ghosts around later.

The Moldy Gowl · 03-07-2015 01:44PM

pablomakaveli wrote: »

It is funny to think how the likes of buzzfeed and ladbible will be starved of content while r/funny is closed.:pac:

What will the you laugh you lose thread do?

03-07-2015 01:47PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

What will the you laugh you lose thread do?

Hell, what will the vast majority of Cool Vids & Pics do?

What I love is that one of the posts on the front page says, "with 60% of Reddit in the dark, this might be my only opportunity to get on the front page".

Earthhorse · 03-07-2015 02:05PM

A popular and effective employee was fired without prior warning and as a result the subreddit that relied most heavily on her for its functioning went dark and with it many other popular subreddits in solidarity.

This creates a headache for the owners of the site and sends a message far stronger than mere debate ever could. The idea that this could be seen as immature is unfortunate in a world of at will employment where heads of corporations no longer feel they answerable for their actions.

Aimead · 03-07-2015 02:06PM

There has been a lot of distrust between users of Reddit and the management for a long time now, with the moderators to a large extent getting trapped in the middle. The sacking was just the final straw that broke the camel’s back.

In trying to monetise the site the management have killed some of the key aspects that made Reddit a success in the first place. By trying to ‘sanitise’ it to appease advertisers, for example, they alienate those users for whom Reddit was a bastion of free speech or to discuss unpopular opinions. Lately it seems that criticising management actions would get you shaddowb&. The tone being set by management has filtered down in extremely troubling ways to some of the moderators/administrators. For example, there was a thread featuring a comment by Totalbiscuit that had garnered over 26,000 comments from Reddit users – and the image of a massive wall of deleted comments just screamed “something’s not right here”.

If the latest rumour is true that Victoria was sacked over the Sharpton then the management may be a completely lost cause.

Caliden · 03-07-2015 02:15PM

It's a load of white knights coming to the rescue of a 'maiden in distress'.

American employment law is vastly different to here and you can be let go for very minor things (downsizing, company going a different direction).

The volunteers for each subreddit seem to think they aren't replaceable and are staging a protest. Upper management in reddit is indeed crap and the new CEO is a troll but this just seems like it will hurt the site without achieving anything else.

Links234 · 03-07-2015 02:19PM

Caliden wrote: »

It's a load of white knights coming to the rescue of a 'maiden in distress'.

*Cringe*

She was an incredibly popular mod and was the driving force behind one of the absolute best parts of reddit by far, people aren't being "white knights" at all.

c_man · 03-07-2015 02:22PM

I just don't know how I'll go on... The world has changed forever, I'm too old to learn the new ways.

Tar.Aldarion · 03-07-2015 02:23PM

Emerald Tight Dime wrote: »

Really? How do you do that? I think reddit is really interesting but I hate the upvote system so I just give up.

(I had previously quoted the wrong person so deleted that post, apologies)

Go into any post and at the top there is sorting, by default it is best, what you want is to sort by "old", All the top level comments will start from the first written then.

Darkglasses wrote: »

I like reddit for a lot of things, but not the upvoting/downvoting of comments. Bad for actual discussion, just reinforces group think over time. Prefer the thanks system here.

Thanks system on boards is no different, it's generally worse because you see the same people thank the same people and you see the same popular opinions thanked. You can also see when certain people aren't thanked anywhere based on their views on different topics. This is because of the community aspect, and is both good and bad, same as anonymity of reddit is good and bad. And the problem with a linear format is it descends into mayhem pretty fast (you can't really talk to somebody who posted post number 200 if the current post is 500 here,), threads with large numbers of posts are completely unmanageable and go off topic into nothingness, yet I can skim through 10000 posts on a reddit thread easily and simply collapse the sub-discussion topics I am not interested in. I find it so handy to have everything indented and one subdiscussion all together.

hardy_buck · 03-07-2015 02:29PM

Aimead wrote: »

There has been a lot of distrust between users of Reddit and the management for a long time now, with the moderators to a large extent getting trapped in the middle. The sacking was just the final straw that broke the camel’s back.

In trying to monetise the site the management have killed some of the key aspects that made Reddit a success in the first place. By trying to ‘sanitise’ it to appease advertisers, for example, they alienate those users for whom Reddit was a bastion of free speech or to discuss unpopular opinions. Lately it seems that criticising management actions would get you shaddowb&. The tone being set by management has filtered down in extremely troubling ways to some of the moderators/administrators. For example, there was a thread featuring a comment by Totalbiscuit that had garnered over 26,000 comments from Reddit users – and the image of a massive wall of deleted comments just screamed “something’s not right here”.

If the latest rumour is true that Victoria was sacked over the Sharpton then the management may be a completely lost cause.

What is the Sharpton?

03-07-2015 02:30PM

In fairness you really can't compare the Thanks here to the up/downvoting on Reddit. As much as it annoys people, the Thanks doesn't destroy a discussion/conversation and doesn't stop it from happening. Not only do people on Reddit downvote you for simply expressing an unpopular opinion, it will actively insure that it is brought down to Oblivion.

Links234 · 03-07-2015 02:34PM

hardy_buck wrote: »

What is the Sharpton?

It wasn't Sharpton, but Jesse Jackson did an AMA and it was a disaster, some people have speculated this as the reason she was fired, but supposedly it was because she disagree with management over monetizing /r/IAMA and running video AMAs among other issues.

03-07-2015 02:37PM

Links234 wrote: »

It wasn't Sharpton, but Jesse Jackson did an AMA and it was a disaster, some people have speculated this as the reason she was fired, but supposedly it was because she disagree with management over monetizing /r/IAMA and running video AMAs among other issues.

What happened that made it a disaster?

It's funny when you see those awkward ones. Kevin Sorbo's one was also one of notoriety.

catallus · 03-07-2015 02:37PM

Maybe the mods of boards should emulate their reddit brethren

Tar.Aldarion · 03-07-2015 02:41PM

Woody's AMA was the worst disaster, and that is because she wasn't working on it. People don't know how to use the internet or reddit a lot and she was very helpful in explaining and he;ping.

Deleted User wrote: »

In fairness you really can't compare the Thanks here to the up/downvoting on Reddit. As much as it annoys people, the Thanks doesn't destroy a discussion/conversation and doesn't stop it from happening. Not only do people on Reddit downvote you for simply expressing an unpopular opinion, it will actively insure that it is brought down to Oblivion.

I never really find that - I can see that it is possible all right, people do downvote things they don't like. I generall find it's how you post and not what you post that matters. i post about veganism all the time over there (a very unpopular opinion with the masses), the level of discussion compared to here with non-vegans is night and day, and always get upvoted loads even when people disagree with me. I'd say I only have a handful of posts in 4 years that are negative.

omahaid · 03-07-2015 02:45PM

I can't see any site able to take over though, voat was one possible contender but it can't keep online for any period of time, digg never recovered from their crash, any other contender for front page?

03-07-2015 02:45PM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I never really find that - I can see that it is possible all right, people do downvote things they don't like. I generall find it's how you post and not what you post that matters. i post about veganism all the time over there (a very unpopular opinion with the masses), the level of discussion compared to here with non-vegans is night and day, and always get upvoted loads even when people disagree with me.

I think it also depends on where you post. I've had mixed results and insane ones. Think the highest upvote on a comment I ever got was over 3000, on something I thought was small and insignificant. People are weird.

Links234 · 03-07-2015 02:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What happened that made it a disaster?

Supposedly it got dogpiled by the various neo-nazi subreddits, some rather eh 'tough' questions got upvoted, and he replied kinda akwardly to them as if he was read a sanitized version of what had been asked.

Magico Gonzalez · 03-07-2015 03:08PM

Reddit is a business, she was responsible for a public facing part of it. If she didn't want to move (as is rumoured) to where the job is located, facilitated a completely disastrous AMA and objected to looking to make some money from her part of the business then cry me a river.

It's not public service, businesses need to generate revenue. Sometimes you have to move for work, a lot of have done it.

The CEO isn't popular because she won't let her business be used as a vehicle to make fun of fat kids and racist abuse (ps...not referring to the aforementioned AMA). It's a hard life, it'll happen to 4chan too. As a site grows so do the amount of tvrds who sign up to post offensive nonsense. I have every sympathy with the CEO of Reddit, she's got a hard task putting up with morons who want to pick on fat kids and think that they are entitled to run the business however they want whilst not paying and not consenting to any type of revenue generation.

Now this poor Victoria diddums is a cause celebre for, I dunno...having your cake and eating or something.

She stuck by her principles, it cost her the job, she'll get another one. Dry your eyes.

Mars Bar · 03-07-2015 03:08PM

jester77 wrote: »

You obviously don't understand it. It's very far from rubbish, there is endless amount of subreddits on all sorts of topics. Subscribe to a topic you are interested in and you will quickly see what a fantastic resource it is. It my second go to site after stackoverflow for all things development related.

I had given reddit a try three or four times and just didn't get it and I bitched about it on here too. However, a couple of months ago I tried it again and I got the hang of it. The "serious replies only" type threads can be REALLY good and the /r/funny has a few gems. It is quite American but they have some really good stuff that you wouldn't get on Boards and vice versa.

I nearly wet myself laughing at the story of an Island that was on lockdown and under SWAT surveillance because of a loose Bengal Tiger. Turned out it was just a pet Bengal cat named Tiger that had gone missing but it was reported incorrectly.

Caliden · 03-07-2015 03:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

In fairness you really can't compare the Thanks here to the up/downvoting on Reddit. As much as it annoys people, the Thanks doesn't destroy a discussion/conversation and doesn't stop it from happening. Not only do people on Reddit downvote you for simply expressing an unpopular opinion, it will actively insure that it is brought down to Oblivion.

Which is actually why 4chan is still a good website.

Sure there's load of crap on it but topics that are actively being discussed stay at the top.

Upvote/downvote is a terrible system because it's much quicker vote on something than it is to post a meaningful reply.

Anything that takes a while to read will most likely be lost unless it has a catchy title.

The Moldy Gowl · 03-07-2015 03:20PM

Mars Bar wrote: »

I had given reddit a try three or four times and just didn't get it and I bitched about it on here too. However, a couple of months ago I tried it again and I got the hang of it. The "serious replies only" type threads can be REALLY good and the /r/funny has a few gems. It is quite American but they have some really good stuff that you wouldn't get on Boards and vice versa.

I nearly wet myself laughing at the story of an Island that was on lockdown and under SWAT surveillance because of a loose Bengal Tiger. Turned out it was just a pet Bengal cat named Tiger that had gone missing but it was reported incorrectly.

You get way better stories over there alright.
And can post gifs and streams of sports games.
Meh I use both, but I reddit in the evening as most of my subs are just boobs.

tietambrown · 03-07-2015 03:23PM

Much prefer reddit to boards. So much more depth in far more topics, and you hardly ever see the same posters posting the same hackneyed jokes that you continually see here. Always find it amusing when I'm on the home page here and see a topic from 2 or 3 days ago on reddit just getting its own thread here. I don't mind the up/down vote either.

partyguinness · 03-07-2015 03:25PM

I must confess to never having heard of Reddit and just had to google it...the layout etc of the homepage does not appeal.

Retrovertigo · 03-07-2015 03:30PM

Caliden wrote: »

Which is actually why 4chan is still a good website.

4chan a good website? :pac::pac::pac:

Reddit is Clueless

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