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I never get approached by guys??

  • 01-07-2015 05:56PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14


    I don't know where else to ask this. I'm 20 and i'm really starting to think i must be ugly. Guys never seem to approach me, anywhere. My friends seem to always get guys and they always
    have boyfriends, whereas i'm always the single one. It knocks my confidence knowing i can't really get a guy. I don't know if this is just in my head but guys do seem to stare at me, friends that i've been with notice this too when we're out and about but most of the time i just think they're staring because i'm ugly or they're not really staring at all!

    The weird thing is, i have joined a dating site just to see where i stand and i do seem to get loads of guys messaging me etc, but i assume this happens to all girls. Alot of these guys are after one night stands.

    It's really knocking my self esteem and i just feel really unattractive. Why would a girl never get approached?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭368100


    Why don't you go and talk to a guy that takes your fancy? Take matters into your own hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    Why not approach them instead? Or try put yourself at the bar at the same time and start small talk? It takes 2 people to show interest for anything to even happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 funnygirl


    I have done this before and it didn't end well. I just assume if a guy likes a girl he would approach her. My friends get approached by guys without talking to them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Shemale


    If a guy is looking at you and you like him smile at him, I wouldn't go over to a girl I liked when I was single if there wasnt some sort of eye contact or smiles exchanged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 funnygirl


    I give eye contact and smile but they don't seem to approach anyway? The few times i have approached guys it didn't go well so i'm nervous about doing that again


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭368100


    funnygirl wrote: »
    I have done this before and it didn't end well. I just assume if a guy likes a girl he would approach her. My friends get approached by guys without talking to them

    If every guy let one bad experience stop them from chatting someone up then nobody would get anywhere.

    It's 2015 girls, just go and chat a fella up, equality and all that ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    funnygirl wrote: »
    I have done this before and it didn't end well. I just assume if a guy likes a girl he would approach her. My friends get approached by guys without talking to them

    Switch the situation around and you'll find out why men don't approach women as often as they'd like, they've been burned too many times.

    Also, just because your friends get approached by guys without talking to them doesn't mean there's something wrong with you or you're ugly.

    People generally act a lot more confident when out if they already have a boyfriend or girlfriend because they're not trying to impress anyone, a lot of the time they don't realise how confident they actually come across so to the opposite sex, that is appealing, confidence in yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 funnygirl


    But aren't looks the first thing attracts someone to you? even if my friends were single they would still get guys approaching them. If everyone else is getting approached and i'm not, it just seems i must be unattractive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,152 ✭✭✭Passenger


    Be more proactive if you want to meet men and approach them. You're you, you're not your friends so stop comparing yourself to them. The whole "I'm a girl, therefore I should be approached" attitude possibly comes across as arrogant when you're out and 'expecting' to be approached?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 funnygirl


    I don't expect to be approached when i'm out. I go out to have fun with my friends and by the end i notice no one has approached me.
    I am in no way shape or form arrogant. I'm not even that confident myself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,152 ✭✭✭Passenger


    funnygirl wrote: »
    I don't expect to be approached when i'm out. I go out to have fun with my friends and by the end i notice no one has approached me.
    I am in no way shape or form arrogant. I'm not even that confident myself.

    It was a question not an accusation, as in do you unknowingly project an 'arrogance' to deter any possible approaches? Some men can find the whole approaching thing unnerving too you know, hence the reliance upon Dutch courage to do most of their approaching.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭FizzleSticks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭OneOfThem


    I've had lots of female friends over the years, that were, by all accounts, completely undeniable rides, that didn't tend to get hit on on nights out.

    This probably won't be popular advice... but mostly they tended to dress quite conservatively (comparatively). As a guy, if you see a girl out in a club etc, even if she's gorgeous, if she's not dressed somewhat provocatively, when most other girls are, you tend to presume it's deliberate and she doesn't want to be approached, because she has a boyfriend, or she's just not open to things right now, or whatever. It reads as a 'stay away' kind of signal. Could be a million miles off, but does this ring any bells by any chance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    OneOfThem wrote: »
    I've had lots of female friends over the years, that were, by all accounts, completely undeniable rides, that didn't tend to get hit on on nights out.

    This probably won't be popular advice... but mostly they tended to dress quite conservatively (comparatively). As a guy, if you see a girl out in a club etc, even if she's gorgeous, if she's not dressed somewhat provocatively, when most other girls are, you tend to presume it's deliberate and she doesn't want to be approached, because she has a boyfriend, or she's just not open to things right now, or whatever. It reads as a 'stay away' kind of signal. Could be a million miles off, but does this ring any bells by any chance?

    I would agree with this, also OP , look up the phenomenon known as 'resting bit*h face' Ive had a lot of female friends who almost never get hit on and its purely that their default facial expression makes them look angry or bored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 funnygirl


    What would you class as conservatively? I myself don't think i dress conservatively, like i'd wear what most girls my age wear. And to the other post i think my natural face does look sort of moody but i do smile alot!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dress however your want to dress, OP. Look however you want to look. The biggest thing I'd always go for in confidence and someone being comfortable in their skin.

    You've mentioned smiling with a guy and yet they didn't approach - why didn't you? If you like someone, go up to them. Don't let them do all the work. You said before that you tried and it didn't go well - what happened? Was there any indication that they were interested or did you approach them at random?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭skirtgirl


    OneOfThem wrote: »
    I've had lots of female friends over the years, that were, by all accounts, completely undeniable rides, that didn't tend to get hit on on nights out.

    This probably won't be popular advice... but mostly they tended to dress quite conservatively (comparatively). As a guy, if you see a girl out in a club etc, even if she's gorgeous, if she's not dressed somewhat provocatively, when most other girls are, you tend to presume it's deliberate and she doesn't want to be approached, because she has a boyfriend, or she's just not open to things right now, or whatever. It reads as a 'stay away' kind of signal. Could be a million miles off, but does this ring any bells by any chance?

    Really? I must go out this weekend wearing my shortest skirt and I will report back here. That is the most shallow thing I have heard in a long time. No offence intended.
    Op go out and have a dance and a laugh. What is for you won't pass you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭OneOfThem


    skirtgirl wrote: »
    Really? I must go out this weekend wearing my shortest skirt and I will report back here. That is the most shallow thing I have heard in a long time. No offence intended.
    Op go out and have a dance and a laugh. What is for you won't pass you.

    Yeah really. And no offense taken. When guys approach girls on a night out its not because they've watched them walk across the dance floor and thought "God, I bet she has the most fascinating views on the Armenian genocide!", it's because they've looked at them and thought "she's sexy, I'd like to have sex with her" (doesn't mean that's all they want, but that's what has them walking in your direction), and the sexier a girl is dressed, the more likely they are to think that. Don't have to like it, but it's true.

    However if OP says she dresses the same as the other girls, then its probably not the definitive factor. Shorter skirts a good idea though. If you've nice legs, show them off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭ManOfMystery


    OneOfThem wrote: »
    Yeah really. And no offense taken. When guys approach girls on a night out its not because they've watched them walk across the dance floor and thought "God, I bet she has the most fascinating views on the Armenian genocide!", it's because they've looked at them and thought "she's hot, I'd like to have sex with her" (doesn't mean that's all they want, but that's what has them walking in your direction), and the sexier a girl is dressed, the more likely they are to think that. Don't have to like it, but it's true.

    I'm a guy, and don't agree with this, so I'm not sure where you got this idea that all men find girls more attractive with less attire.

    Girls dressed very provocatively (or who are verging on looking slutty) are a massive turn-off for me, and I know I'm not the only one in my group of mates who feels like that.

    Ever hear the term 'less is more'? Plenty of guys like myself find that sexiness is not about showing more breast or leg, it's about how they carry themselves, how confident they are, dressing nicely for the occasion, and so on .............. so please don't feel you need to speak for all of us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭OneOfThem


    I'm a guy, and don't agree with this, so I'm not sure where you got this idea that all men find girls more attractive with less attire.

    Girls dressed very provocatively (or who are verging on looking slutty) are a massive turn-off for me, and I know I'm not the only one in my group of mates who feels like that.

    Ever hear the term 'less is more'? Plenty of guys like myself find that sexiness is not about showing more breast or leg, it's about how they carry themselves, how confident they are, dressing nicely for the occasion, and so on .............. so please don't feel you need to speak for all of us.

    Not slutty. Just sexy. A sexy little skirt, rather than jeans, for example. A sexy dress that shows off her figure, rather than one which does not. The OP wants more men to hit on her. Dressing sexy (if she isn't already) will accomplish that. Guys approaching girls in a night out know nothing about them. They approach them because they find them sexually attractive (and would like to sleep with them (and potentially more). Well that's balanced by how receptive they think the girl will be to them. Woman look sexier when they dress sexier. They also seem more receptive to being approached on a night out, all else being equal, than if they are dressed more reserved.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    I think some of the advice here is really bad. Simply saying "why don't you approach them" doesn't help and she's already explained she is not confident enough...maybe she is shy, etc. It doesn't answer the op's question at all.

    As for saying she should dress provactively....eh...no this is really bad advice. Obviously looking good helps but most of the girls I've met in bars and clubs were actually dressed quite casually. The OP should dress how she feels comfortable and confident.

    As a shy guy who has tired to overcome it I find it easier to approach girls if:

    1) she seems friendly...smiling etc. Obviously if she smiles in my direction its a good indicator.

    2) laid back environments....nightclubs and many late night bars can be too crowded and too loud to talk to someone. Sometimes I wish I smoked because smoking areas are good for this. :)

    3)she is part of a small group (for example just her and her friend).... It's very intimidating to approach someone in a big group. It's also quite easy to say hello to a woman at the bar when getting drink (usually not very successful for me though)

    Check out where your friends are when they are approached....have they broken away from the group for a bit...are they at the bar or smoking area? That's probably the easiest thing to examine. If you always stay with the large group guys won't have the confidence to talk to you because of the humiliation if he is rejected.

    Hope that helps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 funnygirl


    Thanks Primal Nut, I wouldn't be confident enough at the moment to approach guys. And to the other posters I don't dress conservatively by any means but i don't dress slutty either, it's just not my style. I have a hard time believing how you dress actually matters that much, if a girl is attractive she'd be attractive in any clothes no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭bolopapa


    Right now you seems a little desperate and most guys would just take advantage of that.
    Plus with dating i believe theres a cycle, you form hard to get guys chase, you push they pull, e.t.c

    You do not have to start making eye contact with every bill and john.
    Just place youself in position to be asked out. Also it possible you are prettier than all your friends, a natural mans brain is wired to go for the easier kill.
    Try being are places alone or taking a stroll alone no friend just you alone.
    And also you could consider joining a gym. with more male members than females.
    Goodluck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 funnygirl


    And also i guess i was asking why would a girl never get approached. Now don't get me wrong i don't expect to get approached, i just thought most girls do at some point. Any girls i've met or any of my friends are always telling stories of guys hitting on them and i just think well it never happens to me, so naturally i just think i must be unattractive.

    bolopapa i'm not desperate to have a boyfriend or anything i just think there must be something wrong with me. I've never even been on a date so far.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    funnygirl wrote: »
    Thanks Primal Nut, I wouldn't be confident enough at the moment to approach guys. And to the other posters I don't dress conservatively by any means but i don't dress slutty either, it's just not my style. I have a hard time believing how you dress actually matters that much, if a girl is attractive she'd be attractive in any clothes no?

    I personally don't think a lack of confidence is necessarily an excuse, especially on a night out. You would likely have Dutch courage. Don't be too drunk, because any reasonable guy would refuse to entertain you. There's a safety reason behind that. It would be a great way for you to work on your confidence, your shyness. Plus it would mean that you're not standing around, waiting for a guy to approach you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 funnygirl


    I'm not much of a drinker. Lack of confidence isn't an excuse, it's a real issue for me. If i'm not confident about my looks i would find it very hard to approach any guy, and it doesn't help the fact i've yet to see any girl approach a guy. What i've seen is guys always do the approaching so i would probably be seen as weird if i did that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 768 ✭✭✭PinkLemonade


    When I was younger I styled myself many different ways. As a blonde (caked in tan etc.) I got by far the most attention, got chatted up a lot while out, but always in a quite sleazy way.

    When I went for a darker/indie kind of look I didn't get as much attention but the guys that did approach me seemed more intersted in actual conversation/phone numbers and not just scoring.

    When I went back to my natural hair and subtle tan/makeup, I was approached by less guys again, but the quality of the men that did approach me was so much better, I don't mean they were better looking, just that they were genuine in wanting to get to know me and weren't just playing the numbers games. They'd ask me out on dates rather than just looking for a hook up.

    I prefer quality myself over quantity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 funnygirl


    I would prefer quality over quantity too, it's just no guy approaches me ever. And i'm 20 now and they still don't. I've never even been asked out on a date.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    funnygirl wrote: »
    I'm not much of a drinker. Lack of confidence isn't an excuse, it's a real issue for me. If i'm not confident about my looks i would find it very hard to approach any guy, and it doesn't help the fact i've yet to see any girl approach a guy. What i've seen is guys always do the approaching so i would probably be seen as weird if i did that.

    Are you doing anything for your lack of confidence? Are you working on being confident in your looks? Lack of confidence is an excuse when you're doing nothing to rectify your problems. Also women approach men more often than you think and I can tell you this from personal experience. I love when a woman approaches me, because confidence is such an attractive quality. Their confidence and attitude would be more attractive to me than their body type.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 funnygirl


    I have been working on my confidence but no matter what i do i'm just not confident in myself at all. There's no magic fix to be more confident. For various reasons in my life i've always had low self esteem.


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