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Deepsouthwest · 30-06-2015 10:07PM

just do it wrote: »

Moorepark vs AC/DC

Not a tough decision really

The irish are real AC/DC diehards, I was in a nightclub in majorca on sat night(sounds fancy, but it was a dump!) with an irish gang on the afters of a wedding, DJ refused to play AC/DC. €20 later we had a "whole lot of Rosie"!!

freedominacup · 01-07-2015 07:21AM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Ah jaysus jdi you have really dug a hole for yourself here.

wonder why the hole was in the back of it :eek:

You're not old enough to be told.

freedominacup · 01-07-2015 07:24AM

stretch film wrote: »

If they were playing in my back garden I'd close the curtains .

Don't be over compensating stretch. I reckon there's a bad haircut and a denim jacket with the name of some heavy rock outfit scrawled across the shoulders amongst your skeletons.

mahoney_j · 01-07-2015 08:07AM

Fookin power gone here all day from 9 to 5 .fourthbtime this year .biggest issue is no water flowing to cow troughs .slurry tank hooked up and off to fill load of water from natural spring on out farm .

Greengrass1 · 01-07-2015 08:17AM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Fookin power gone here all day from 9 to 5 .fourthbtime this year .biggest issue is no water flowing to cow troughs .slurry tank hooked up and off to fill load of water from natural spring on out farm .

On the hottest day of the yr so far too

jaymla627 · 01-07-2015 08:21AM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Fookin power gone here all day from 9 to 5 .fourthbtime this year .biggest issue is no water flowing to cow troughs .slurry tank hooked up and off to fill load of water from natural spring on out farm .

Did you give the tank a blast of the power washer inside would be very wary of giving cows water from a slurry tank, have a 5.5 hp water pump here for any emergencies and a couple of ibcs on a flat bed trailer

mahoney_j · 01-07-2015 08:33AM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Did you give the tank a blast of the power washer inside would be very wary of giving cows water from a slurry tank, have a 5.5 hp water pump here for any emergencies and a couple of ibcs on a flat bed trailer

Flushed 2 loads of water from well through it last night ,should be fine ...

Brown Podzol · 01-07-2015 08:37AM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Fookin power gone here all day from 9 to 5 .fourthbtime this year .biggest issue is no water flowing to cow troughs .slurry tank hooked up and off to fill load of water from natural spring on out farm .

Sometimes in that situation I'd hire out a petrol driven generator just for the water pump. All you'd need to do is top up the petrol a couple of times during the day.

mahoney_j · 01-07-2015 08:42AM

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Sometimes in that situation I'd hire out a petrol driven generator just for the water pump. All you'd need to do is top up the petrol a couple of times during the day.

On a group scheme unfourtnately so not an option ,only 3 farms in area on it ,we should really sort something for a geni for situations like this but 2,of us are sinking our own wells this year .4 times so far is very excessive ,got no hop from esb

Timmaay · 01-07-2015 09:23AM

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Sometimes in that situation I'd hire out a petrol driven generator just for the water pump. All you'd need to do is top up the petrol a couple of times during the day.

Have one of them cheap 2200w lidl/aldi generators here, power was out here for 2 full days after a storm afew years back, it drove the pump no bother for them solid 2days.

Timmaay · 01-07-2015 09:28AM

Milk urea here down about 10/12 last few collections. Too low or should I ignore it this time of the year? Cows on about 2kg of a high energy 12%, 24L, 3.7 bf 3.5p so still milking reasonably well.

Greengrass1 · 01-07-2015 09:30AM

Milk disease report came in yesterday with a low positive for neospora.
now there's 2 dogs here bit never let near calving pens or anything like that.
One thing that I have been wondering about is when dept were trapping badgers last yr he caught a fox now since the spring I'm seeing a fox out in mid day out in the fields and last week I seen 2 together wandering around the place.
I'm wondering have we got a new set that could be spreading neospora.

Any ideas on what to do

whelan2 · 01-07-2015 09:32AM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Milk disease report came in yesterday with a low positive for neospora.
now there's 2 dogs here bit never let near calving pens or anything like that.
One thing that I have been wondering about is when dept were trapping badgers last yr he caught a fox now since the spring I'm seeing a fox out in mid day out in the fields and last week I seen 2 together wandering around the place.
I'm wondering have we got a new set that could be spreading neospora.

Any ideas on what to do

blood a few and sew what results come back, wouldnt panic on the basis of the milk results, wait and see what next test is like either

jaymla627 · 01-07-2015 10:31AM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Milk disease report came in yesterday with a low positive for neospora.
now there's 2 dogs here bit never let near calving pens or anything like that.
One thing that I have been wondering about is when dept were trapping badgers last yr he caught a fox now since the spring I'm seeing a fox out in mid day out in the fields and last week I seen 2 together wandering around the place.
I'm wondering have we got a new set that could be spreading neospora.

Any ideas on what to do

Have had a 10 abortions down the years with it, and cows where kept milking/blooded neospora positive but in all the time my bulk tank sample has been negative so a low positive would definetly indicate you have a problem...
The foxes/dogs don't actually have/carry neospora they can only contract it from say eating cleanings from a neospora positive cow and then shed the virus in urine/faeces for a couple of weeks which is the danger time for cows to pick it up from contaminated feed/water sources, have started putting all cows cleanings down the slatted tank here to prevent any if the dogs picking it up again
It's been proven to that a dog usually becomes immune to neospora once it has contracted the disease and fought it off the first time so the likely hood of them getting it again from eating contaminated cleanings is small

Milked out · 01-07-2015 10:36AM

Timmaay wrote: »

Milk urea here down about 10/12 last few collections. Too low or should I ignore it this time of the year? Cows on about 2kg of a high energy 12%, 24L, 3.7 bf 3.5p so still milking reasonably well.

Was talking to advisor yday and he said grass protein was ranging from 22 down to 11% with the lower protein figure on drier ground where the n prob wasn't being taken up by the plant as growth was affected by dry weather, could explain your low urea reading?

Milked out · 01-07-2015 10:39AM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Milk disease report came in yesterday with a low positive for neospora.
now there's 2 dogs here bit never let near calving pens or anything like that.
One thing that I have been wondering about is when dept were trapping badgers last yr he caught a fox now since the spring I'm seeing a fox out in mid day out in the fields and last week I seen 2 together wandering around the place.
I'm wondering have we got a new set that could be spreading neospora.

Any ideas on what to do

Dogs may pick up neospora but they get rid of it themselves so wouldn't worry about your own so much, just keep em away from calving pens. Vet said just to put the cow incalf to beef bull as daughters would have it when I asked about cow that aborted with it last year but I just culled her as no point holding on to them

stretch film · 01-07-2015 10:48AM

freedominacup wrote: »

Don't be over compensating stretch. I reckon there's a bad haircut and a denim jacket with the name of some heavy rock outfit scrawled across the shoulders amongst your skeletons.

Poodle rock days well behind me now

mf240 · 01-07-2015 11:04AM

Milked out wrote: »

Dogs may pick up neospora but they get rid of it themselves so wouldn't worry about your own so much, just keep em away from calving pens. Vet said just to put the cow incalf to beef bull as daughters would have it when I asked about cow that aborted with it last year but I just culled her as no point holding on to them

Had one here vet said shed abort again if put in calf.

If dogs are ****ting on silage it can spread it.

I wouldnt let the dog near calving pens anyway in case of a cow getting agitated after calving.

minktrapper · 01-07-2015 12:51PM

Blackspot. Think I have a cow with blackspot. She has a teat which is very slow to milk.There seems to be a lump of sorts in the teat end more so than the other teats.There is also a bit of blood coming from it when I draw it.Also a bit of a scab on the end which is red.Anybody know of a cure other than culling her.Using a product called Isaderm formally known as Fusaderm at the moment.

Cow Porter · 01-07-2015 02:33PM

minktrapper wrote: »

Blackspot. Think I have a cow with blackspot. She has a teat which is very slow to milk.There seems to be a lump of sorts in the teat end more so than the other teats.There is also a bit of blood coming from it when I draw it.Also a bit of a scab on the end which is red.Anybody know of a cure other than culling her.Using a product called Isaderm formally known as Fusaderm at the moment.

get a perscripction from vet for Fucidin / Fucidin H and take it to a pharmacy as its a human product

kevthegaff · 01-07-2015 02:53PM

Have ye any underperforming cows ye send to the factory lads this time of the year? Going with 2 nxt week, only milking 13l and very fat

mahoney_j · 01-07-2015 03:02PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

Have ye any underperforming cows ye send to the factory lads this time of the year? Going with 2 nxt week, only milking 13l and very fat

Send them to mart Kev ,trade fairly hot at moment!!!

kevthegaff · 01-07-2015 03:06PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Send them to mart Kev ,trade fairly hot at moment!!!

i would jerry but locked up, costing me money this crap! Do ye send to the mart in milk or dried off?

mf240 · 01-07-2015 03:21PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

Have ye any underperforming cows ye send to the factory lads this time of the year? Going with 2 nxt week, only milking 13l and very fat

13 l ×30 cent = 3.90 a day or 27 euros a week.

Ive a couple milking since spring 14 they will go to the factory shortly.

Greengrass1 · 01-07-2015 05:10PM

For any one currently expanding or thinking of expanding Patrick gowing launched a new expansion scheme today where himself and your own advisor will come our to your farm.
Go through your current situation and where you want to be in 5-6 yrs time.
He will then do up a physical and financial plan for the farm for the next 5 yrs.
It will be a Brilliant service
will cost about 500e for it but well worth it

kevthegaff · 01-07-2015 06:05PM

mf240 wrote: »

13 l ×30 cent = 3.90 a day or 27 euros a week.

Ive a couple milking since spring 14 they will go to the factory shortly.

-60c per day for meal exc grass down:-)

browned · 01-07-2015 08:01PM

question for anyone in moorepark today. at the first stand Padraig French made the claim that for every 1 tonne of feed purchased last year (on 74 pasturebase farms) the farmer ended up making a loss of 126 euros. none of our group questioned him on how he worked out the loss, did any subsequent group get an answer?

jaymla627 · 01-07-2015 09:19PM

Gdt down 5.9%, with milk powder down nearly 11% getting more likely milks heading the wrong side of 25 cent a litre

Injuryprone · 01-07-2015 09:32PM

browned wrote: »

question for anyone in moorepark today. at the first stand Padraig French made the claim that for every 1 tonne of feed purchased last year (on 74 pasturebase farms) the farmer ended up making a loss of 126 euros. none of our group questioned him on how he worked out the loss, did any subsequent group get an answer?

I think it was every 1 tonne over and above a baseline of approx 0.5t per cow. Supposed to reflect that more intensive farms with more bought in feed would be less profitable.

Wildsurfer · 01-07-2015 09:33PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

For any one currently expanding or thinking of expanding Patrick gowing launched a new expansion scheme today where himself and your own advisor will come our to your farm.
Go through your current situation and where you want to be in 5-6 yrs time.
He will then do up a physical and financial plan for the farm for the next 5 yrs.
It will be a Brilliant service
will cost about 500e for it but well worth it

My Teagasc advisor does this for me as part of my advisory service, should be no need to fork out another 500 quid for the privilege. I've read enough of your posts to know that You already know what you want to achieve in the medium term, so its just a matter of inputting that data to the farm physical program, and revisiting it each year to see if you are meeting targets and maybe adjust some figures. Make your advisor work for you, that's what he's there for!

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