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I had told a few people yesterday that I wouldn't be running the 7hills. And then I was back at my flat making my dinner and I started to notice that the pain was less. It was 7pm and I hadn't taken any painkillers since before 1pm, and I started to think that maybe I had *anti*-jinxed myself. Heart started pounding with the excitement and nerves of possibly running this race
. Took a couple of ibuprofen, and headed out for some music and then experienced some quite painful coughs later that night. Anyway, woke up this morning and turned over (a big trigger for the ribs), hmmm, not so sore in fact. Then got out of bed - ouch! That was it.
Walked into work and on my way I had a few coughs which caused me to stop and hold onto the side of my ribs. This was after having taken 1 paracetamol and 2 ibuprofen (I'd taken the ibup later, so maybe that hadn't quite kicked in yet) ... anyway, for *sure*, not-running was the right decision.
I was coming past the parliament about 10mins before midday, and to my surprise I was passed by 4 "challenge" runners, and then 1 "race" runner. I wasn't expecting to see any of the runners. It was about 2hrs 5mins for the challengers, and 1hr 35min for the racer ... and this point is less about a mile from the finish, so these are great performances. It was cloudy and less warm than usual today which will have helped the times. Would not be surprised if the racer was the overall winner in fact.
For me .... definitely no running until I have the X-ray results. The top rib is a bit sore when I press on it. I think I probably haven't fractured the rib because it doesn't seem to match the agony of some internet reports. Not to mention that fractures usually come from rugby tackles/falls-from-bikes etc.... So I'm hoping for just a bruise, which would have a shorter healing time. Can't believe the injury happened the week it did. I've had coughing issues during most of spring/summer, including one virus with *very* violent coughing fits a couple of months back .. and I've been doing some challenging runs with scrambling en-route over the past months .. but this happened towards the end of a week of *no* coughing, and with only "vanilla" running. Only unusual thing that week was the lifting of a not-so-little-baby ... and a bit of fast running I guess
I will try the stationary bike in the gym (boooooring) tomorrow or Tuesday because that has neither impact nor twisting.
Congrats nop and firedance on great 10ks. Going to read your reports now, and then I'm going to do some of the work that got neglected for the GP visit, X-ray clinic, not to mention the reading of endless articles on rib fractures/bruising.0 -
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SamforMayo wrote: »Hard luck on missing your target race, it's a dose. Hope you are on the mend soon.Bummed for you, M, but you are so much better off getting that fixed. Can't believe you went to work instead of the race, surely you deserved to pamper yourself!!!
Thanks to both of you, I'm really surprised how ok I am with it. It's bad timing, but on the other hand there was nothing I could do.
Have wasted a lot of time on this injury this week past, Anna. Know the reason for it wasn't "fun" (though I have to admit it wasn't necessary to read *quite* that many rib articles
), anyway I've a couple of things I have to get off the desk so better get to it now and have rescued something this weekend.
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Disappointed for you Hilly but as you say it's out of your hands and you'll hopefully have an answer soon enough. I know we're not allowed offer sympathy so I'll go for empathy instead, seeing as we appear to have the same mileage this week :rolleyes:.
All that hill training is really going to stand to you. It certainly didn't do your 5K time any harm
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+1, disappointed for you to miss your target race after all the epic prep. Also gutted I have to actually do work tomorrow instead of reading your report. Hope you'll be on the roads again very shortly!
Two links for you:
http://bestpartday.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/seven-hills-race-210615.html
http://yakhunter.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/over-70th-hill.html
The first one is by the writer of the "picture log" that I used to learn the course.
Btw, some runners travel to this race from the Netherlands each year and they have a prize for "first Dutch runner" each year (though you'd need to be based there to win that I think)
Results and photos are on the race website & my guess was right about the racer I saw being the overall winner.
I'm going to be absent from here for a week or two but fingers crossed it won't be too much longer.0 -
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But but but...let us know when the X-ray results are in won't you? Don't forget, all your work is in the bank and even with a couple of weeks rest/recovery, all you'll have to do is shake the piggy bank a bit for it to come tumbling back out.
Ps I'm another in the 5 mile a week club 0 -
But but but...let us know when the X-ray results are in won't you? Don't forget, all your work is in the bank and even with a couple of weeks rest/recovery, all you'll have to do is shake the piggy bank a bit for it to come tumbling back out.
Ps I'm another in the 5 mile a week club
I was having a sneaky look at the logs and I saw some posts about your achilles. That's a nuisance but your coach is very wise ..... Saw also that BG has had a bit of trouble, and now Ososlo. It's an epidemic here on these logs.
The results were back at the GP a week ago. Went to check them at the GP yesterday and was a bit stunned when the receptionist read out the date they arrived ... anyway everything was normal
. No pneumonia or TB or lung cancer or other problems that would explain rib pain and recurrent coughs :rolleyes:.
No sign of fractured ribs either .. they often don't show on X-rays but the pain is not agonising enough to have been that. It could be cartilage bruising or muscle twists or something called costochronditis ... they all have the same symptoms as rib fractures. I had the same thing happen on the other side of the body 15 months ago .. same pattern of the pain moving inwards to develop stabbing-pains in the breast. That took two weeks to clear, this time it's a bit sorer but should be totally gone by another week I'd hope.
Helps to hold the ribs in place for coughs/sneezes/laughs and this was "interesting" when the stabbing pains in the breast started. I've developed a technique holding my arm in a V like the way the warriors used to hold their breastplates, which is a bit more appropriate for the office :rolleyes:.
Anyway, I didn't mean to frighten anyone by staying quiet. I'm just didn't want to post any more medical update on this log ... so I was waiting until it had fully gone-away to give an update. It's a good bit better but I'm still on the painkillers.
There has been running yesterday and today! Easy and mostly on grass. Those went a lot better than last Thursday's attempt.0 -
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We'll that's good and bad isn't it?! Good that there's nothing sinister going on but damn frustrating that you haven't got to the bottom of it....
Sounds like you're progressing in the right direction anyway. Take care and I think you're well in tune with your body at this stage so listen well
won't say anything just yet about my high expectations of your example setting re pace, recovery, core, overall outlook etc on your return to fitness on the novices thread 0 -
not impressed GP didn't ring with results.
Hahahahaaa! This is the nhs and in particular my local practice is not highly-rated on admin/reception. I think they do their best but they are run off their feet. It was always the plan that I would check for the results rather than be told; and in fairness the GP predicted a "couple of days" but I held off because the girl who did the X-ray mentioned a week's wait.
Tbh I imagine they would have chased it up if the Xray had shown TB
Nice bit of tapering going on over there for the 5miles. Looking forward to seeing your name on the table!0 -
We'll that's good and bad isn't it?! Good that there's nothing sinister going on but damn frustrating that you haven't got to the bottom of it....
Sounds like you're progressing in the right direction anyway. Take care and I think you're well in tune with your body at this stage so listen well
Am really hoping I didn't seem tooooooo "in tune with my body" holding on to my chest at the coffee machine this past week :rolleyes:.won't say anything just yet about my high expectations of your example setting re pace, recovery, core, overall outlook etc on your return to fitness on the novices thread
Oh god, the thought of JD again (shudder). Haven't even been to Pilates in 3 weeks because I kinda thought my ribs would be better without crunches, last-raises and side-lifts ...
I'll be sending you and NE a PM with a training schedule soon to have a glance at before I introduce myself on the Novices thread. 0 -
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I rushed straight over to comment on your marathon plan - where is it:D:D
seriously though, how are things going for you since? hope the rib/chest/coughs are taking a holiday, have you started your DCM training yet?
Ahhhhhh
*some attention at last*
The ribs went a bit worse after the mid-week running of last week so I stopped again and went to the physio yesterday. Have a likely answer now, no relation to coughs-etc. The likely explanation is that a spinal joint got a tiny bit out of place, and the rib-pain is referred pain from that. Physio did some trigger-point stuff and I have very minor exercises to do ... and the rule of ~5miles every second day.
Have had the marathon-plan done for ages, but there was no long run last week and there won't be this week (though I am hoping to hit 20+ miles). So I'll have to revise the plan a bit with those lovely long runs, and it'll become a 16-week plan. Then I'll publish and everyone can ignore it .
I am going back to the physio next Monday and am optimistic I'll get the all-clear.0 -
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hillsiderunner wrote: »Ahhhhhh
*some attention at last*
The ribs went a bit worse after the mid-week running of last week so I stopped again and went to the physio yesterday. Have a likely answer now, no relation to coughs-etc. The likely explanation is that a spinal joint got a tiny bit out of place, and the rib-pain is referred pain from that. Physio did some trigger-point stuff and I have very minor exercises to do ... and the rule of ~5miles every second day.
Have had the marathon-plan done for ages, but there was no long run last week and there won't be this week (though I am hoping to hit 20+ miles). So I'll have to revise the plan a bit with those lovely long runs, and it'll become a 16-week plan. Then I'll publish and everyone can ignore it .
I am going back to the physio next Monday and am optimistic I'll get the all-clear.
fingers crossed this is the case! I'm looking forward to ignoring your plan already
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Bungy Girl wrote: »Good that you're close to getting the all clear, delighted for you!
Thanks.
Won't get too excited yet because I don't want to jinx it, but it feels like progress. 0 -
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hillsiderunner wrote: »Ok, for the public eyes .... meno thinks there is still a bit too much fast-stuff in it so this might get a bit revised.
Link first:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cFyfj-X7_qXYT8NHewjmIUi90Hn_9k6if077fxv9dko/edit?usp=sharing
Rough "shape" of the plan is
Mon | Tues | Wed | Thurs | Fri | Sat | Sun
rest | speed | easy | MLR | rest | easy | LSR
The MLRs will be done at easy pace but every second LSR will have some MP miles....
I'd have to agree with him and I know nothing about anything! why the hill sprints and strides the day after a session as a matter of interest (refer to my comment about knowing nothing) otherwise that looks like a cracking plan and you'll run a great marathon off the back of it for sure? Are you going to race those parkruns? 0 -
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Notwork Error wrote: »Ah balls! I spent a solid half hour trying to work with those stupid fookin nested quotes and quick reply on my phone when I could have posted here!:rolleyes: 0
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Ok, *now* the commentsI'd have to agree with him and I know nothing about anything! why the hill sprints and strides the day after a session as a matter of interest (refer to my comment about knowing nothing)
Clearlier suggested I put those in when his eyes passed over an earlier marathon schedule (had been planning for Paris in April originally). They would be short hills sprints of about 15secs. I think the point of those (and the strides) is that they don't take too much out of you ...otherwise that looks like a cracking plan and you'll run a great marathon off the back of it for sure? Are you going to race those parkruns?
Of *course* (if I'm kicking myself out of the house that early on a Saturday ...)You have a HM in August? No doing the FD 10 mile? Fingal 10 km and then add 9 miles? That one tough schedule.
It might get a bit lighter with a few adjustments. There won't be a FD 10miles, I'm in Dublin a few times over the summer but the visits don't line up with the Race series ... and I didn't find a local 10miles around that time. The HM is just a few weeks earlier than DCHM, should be all right. Won't be doing two HMs or anything. 0 -
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