Sean O'Rourke Today Show

touts · 01-07-2015 10:15AM

BarryD wrote: »

Yep, they're a soft and easy target.

Why doesn't SOR get our Minister for Finance or Taoiseach in and try his luck?

He has a fair few FG ministers heads sticking on spikes outside the gates of RTE. He doesn't care which party the incompetent minister comes from.

01-07-2015 10:20AM

touts wrote: »

Joan Burton is getting her ass kicked by Sean. Destroyed her on Greece, Denis O'Brien and now on single mothers. She's fuming. Grab the popcorn and tune in.

We must have been listening to different interviews. He was shouting her down and not letting her explain how single parents can help themselves out of a rut. When single parents were getting double payments to do CE schemes, they were well able to get their children minded. Now that double payment is dropped, they don't want to know!

touts · 01-07-2015 10:30AM

Deleted User wrote: »

We must have been listening to different interviews. He was shouting her down and not letting her explain how single parents can help themselves out of a rut. When single parents were getting double payments to do CE schemes, they were well able to get their children minded. Now that double payment is dropped, they don't want to know!

You must have been reading the talking points Labour HQ sent her in with because you definitely heard a very different interview. He had to interrupt her several times to get her to answer the question he asked not the one she wished he had asked. She was waffling on and on and on and not saying anything. She wasn't explaining anything and that had nothing to do with Sean interrupting. I thought it was a great performance by Sean not willing to take the usual bland rubbish she, and other ministers, trot out.

BarryD · 01-07-2015 10:36AM

touts wrote: »

He has a fair few FG ministers heads sticking on spikes outside the gates of RTE. He doesn't care which party the incompetent minister comes from.

Which FG ministers?

touts · 01-07-2015 10:43AM

BarryD wrote: »

Which FG ministers?

Michael Noonan completely lost his temper with him a few weeks ago and came away from it with a PR disaster.

Big Phil was filleted on Irish water and had to skulk off to Europe.

I recall Richard Bruton getting a hammering in the early days.

BarryD · 01-07-2015 10:58AM

touts wrote: »

Michael Noonan completely lost his temper with him a few weeks ago and came away from it with a PR disaster.

Big Phil was filleted on Irish water and had to skulk off to Europe.

I recall Richard Bruton getting a hammering in the early days.

Well I missed Noonan so.

But Phil Hogan and Irish Water was another very soft and easy target (maybe justifiably). Hard to miss that one!! That'd be a 'tabloid interview'.

touts · 01-07-2015 11:00AM

BarryD wrote: »

Well I missed Noonan so.

But Phil Hogan and Irish Water was another very soft and easy target (maybe justifiably). Hard to miss that one!! That'd be a 'tabloid interview'.

Ah Get off the stage! Get off the Stage!

http://www.thejournal.ie/noonan-rte-siteserv-2074754-Apr2015/

And Hogan's wasn't a "tabloid interview". As things have turned out and the deals he oversaw have become murkier and murkier as they get investigated further it turns out he got off lightly.

BarryD · 01-07-2015 11:11AM

touts wrote: »

And Hogan's wasn't a "tabloid interview". As things have turned out and the deals he oversaw have become murkier and murkier as they get investigated further it turns out he got off lightly.

Anything, anything to do with Irish Water has been 'tabloid interview' status with the media for quite a while. The logic of restructuring water services in the country is completely lost, they're just a convenient horse to flog.

HeidiHeidi · 01-07-2015 11:13AM

Feck's sake, I escaped to the relative calm of Pat Kenny, and now she's on there :mad:

Her voice is back down to a normal pitch though. For now.

Harry Angstrom · 01-07-2015 11:15AM

touts wrote: »

Joan Burton is getting her ass kicked by Sean. Destroyed her on Greece, Denis O'Brien and now on single mothers. She's fuming. Grab the popcorn and tune in.

She's on now with Pat Kenny. I doubt he'll mention Denis.

michael999999 · 01-07-2015 12:16PM

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

She's on now with Pat Kenny. I doubt he'll mention Denis.

Not when one of them hopes to be employed by him in the future like Biffo, and the other one wants to stay in he's employment!

#redacted

touts · 01-07-2015 12:27PM

BarryD wrote: »

Anything, anything to do with Irish Water has been 'tabloid interview' status with the media for quite a while. The logic of restructuring water services in the country is completely lost, they're just a convenient horse to flog.

I'm pretty sure Minister Lowry also used the tabloid journalism and blocking progress arguments to dismiss some journalists questions about the whole murky relationships involved in the flogging off of national assets during the last FG led government. What Sean did today, and does consistently, is refuse to accept the meaningless dribble government ministers come out and which is accepted by the majority of journalists who are in fact little more than stable mates of the same ministers they are interviewing.

alaimacerc · 01-07-2015 03:05PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

Labour got less than 20% of the vote in the last election and yet they get lambasted for not delivering everything they promised. If most of the electorate wanted what Labour were promising, then most of the electorate would have voted for them..............but they didn't.

Exactly.

I watched that Independents' Day thing last night, with jokers like Ogle claiming that people had been "radicalised" by water charges. O RLY? Is that more people voting "left"? Or just the existing "left" being angry about it? (Skating over the elements of opposition to IW that clearly aren't in any sense "left" at all. Freeman, DDI, Lucinda Creighton... Ronon bleedin' Mullen, would you believe it...)

I think, sadly, what you'll find it that much the same people that voted for Labour to have a sadly small influence in the present government will vote for a variety of other parties... in order to have no influence at all over the next one.

Brendan Bendar · 01-07-2015 06:24PM

alaimacerc wrote: »

Exactly.

I watched that Independents' Day thing last night, with jokers like Ogle claiming that people had been "radicalised" by water charges. O RLY? Is that more people voting "left"? Or just the existing "left" being angry about it? (Skating over the elements of opposition to IW that clearly aren't in any sense "left" at all. Freeman, DDI, Lucinda Creighton... Ronon bleedin' Mullen, would you believe it...)

I think, sadly, what you'll find it that much the same people that voted for Labour to have a sadly small influence in the present government will vote for a variety of other parties... in order to have no influence at all over the next one.

Frankly , I thought you had a bit more sense than to watch crud like that.
No offence , but anyone who thinks Independents are anything more than a bunch of self-serving mē fēiners is challenged.

Now I'm sure you just looked for info purposes and you know the score,but sadly there are people out there who support these gloamers.

hullaballoo · 01-07-2015 06:58PM

Moderator: can we move the discussion back on topic, please

Odyssey 2005 · 02-07-2015 09:31AM

Love the way this dope from the water protest yesterday has the " only accurate account" of what went on yesterday

Callan57 · 02-07-2015 09:31AM

This clown seems to be channelling Charlie McCreevey - I know nothing, I saw nothing

Odyssey 2005 · 02-07-2015 09:34AM

He's making me WANT TO PAY my water bill.

touts · 02-07-2015 09:35AM

Callan57 wrote: »

This clown seems to be channelling Charlie McCreevey - I know nothing, I saw nothing

They are a right pair of muppets. They seem to have been at completely different protests. You started it by drawing batons. No you started it by throwing traffic cones. Scarily both of these are actually elected representatives.

L1011 · 02-07-2015 09:36AM

touts wrote: »

They are a right pair of muppets. They seem to have been at completely different protests. You started it by drawing batons. No you started it by throwing traffic cones. Scarily both of these are actually elected representatives.

One story is accurate, though.

Odyssey 2005 · 02-07-2015 09:48AM

I'm afraid there's nothing forcing them to stay here.

Callan57 · 03-07-2015 10:45AM

Apparently the definition of "democracy" changes to suit the agenda of Ruth Coppinger et al

serfboard · 03-07-2015 10:53AM

Callan57 wrote: »

Apparently the definition of "democracy" changes to suit the agenda of Ruth Coppinger et al

Could you please elaborate for those who didn't hear it, or who might want to podcast it?

BarryD · 03-07-2015 10:57AM

Callan57 wrote: »

Apparently the definition of "democracy" changes to suit the agenda of Ruth Coppinger et al

Indeed and according as to who has to pay. Bye, bye our €350 million loan to Greece but sure who gives a feck about the democratic wishes of the Irish taxpayer. Maybe we should just double the water charges to make up the loss??

foxtrot101 · 03-07-2015 12:03PM

BarryD wrote: »

Indeed and according as to who has to pay. Bye, bye our €350 million loan to Greece but sure who gives a feck about the democratic wishes of the Irish taxpayer. Maybe we should just double the water charges to make up the loss??

The Greek debt levels are unsustainable. So the only chance of getting some of that 350 million euro back is if Greece gets a debt write-down. If Greece defaults we'll get nothing.

michael999999 · 03-07-2015 12:04PM

BarryD wrote: »

Indeed and according as to who has to pay. Bye, bye our €350 million loan to Greece but sure who gives a feck about the democratic wishes of the Irish taxpayer. Maybe we should just double the water charges to make up the loss??

Or ask Fine Gael sugar daddy Denis o Brien to pay back the 350 million debt that was written off for him!

But that's not going to happen is it?

BarryD · 03-07-2015 12:13PM

foxtrot101 wrote: »

The Greek debt levels are unsustainable. So the only chance of getting some of that 350 million euro back is if Greece gets a debt write-down. If Greece defaults we'll get nothing.

Ah but which countries should take the hit in this write down, isn't that what I meant re Ruth Coppinger above? Everyone says write off the Greek debt but nobody really wants to be the one to do it. And of course, if it were to happen, there'd be a queue rapidly forming.

I suppose we could be martyrs and just write of the €350 million we lent them. As I say, stick a bit of extra tax on here and there and cut our social welfare payments a bit??? That'd do the job nicely, but of course you'd soon have a chorus of accusations of austerity and stealth cuts etc. and from the very people who advocate debt write off.

foxtrot101 · 03-07-2015 12:24PM

BarryD wrote: »

Ah but which countries should take the hit in this write down, isn't that what I meant re Ruth Coppinger above? Everyone says write off the Greek debt but nobody really wants to be the one to do it. And of course, if it were to happen, there'd be a queue rapidly forming.

It would most likely be an x percent write-down across the board. "The very people who advocate debt write off"... now includes the IMF.

Bits_n_Bobs · 07-07-2015 09:29AM

Pat Rabbitte obviously feels the people have sucked up enough austerity for him to ride into the sunset with his big fat pension...

Loafing Oaf · 07-07-2015 09:34AM

Remember Aine Lawlor told David Norris he wasn't running for election in ancient Greece? Well going by this interview, someone is going to have to tell a government rep in the run-up to the next election that they're not standing in modern Greece...

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