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A chance to scrap the Angelus - Nutella, Croissants and Pineapples.

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  • #422
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    tirchonaill86 wrote: »
    The angelus is part of the rock this country of ours is built on...its faith. You are entitled to whatever you believe in or choose not to believe in. That is your decision and i respect that. But whoever wants to challenge parts of what Ireland was built on can go somewhere else as far as I'm concerned. Is it that painful for you guys to respect our one minute of silent reverence? This is Ireland....we fought and died for this beautiful christian country of ours. We welcome all faiths or lack of it as equals but please respect whats important to us. God bless.

    But the country existed long before the Christian or Catholic faith came along. If you believe the legend, that Welsh fella Patrick robbed the country of the rock it was built on, which wasn't the angelus or Catholicism. And it's not silent at all. BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG


  • #423
    Skrynesaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Skrynesaver


    tirchonaill86 wrote: »
    The angelus is part of the rock this country of ours is built on...its faith. You are entitled to whatever you believe in or choose not to believe in. That is your decision and i respect that. But whoever wants to challenge parts of what Ireland was built on can go somewhere else as far as I'm concerned. Is it that painful for you guys to respect our one minute of silent reverence? This is Ireland....we fought and died for this beautiful christian country of ours. We welcome all faiths or lack of it as equals but please respect whats important to us. God bless.


    Tell that to James Connoloy
    James_Connolly wrote:
    It is neither Freethinker nor Christian, Turk nor Jew, Buddhist nor Idolator, Mahommedan nor Parsee – it is only human.


  • #424
    tirchonaill86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭tirchonaill86


    hahahahahahahaha fred i knew you would come back with that one. was expecting it. well as a good christian and more importantly human being i can take a joke and i give you that one fred. Well i like the sound of the bells personally i find it comforting. My favourite film is darby o gill and the little people. I often wonder what Darby would say if he was alive today....or indeed the little people if they saw how things are going. Well i bet King Brian would turn in his grave. Ireland be free....Ireland be brave. Or all the blood spilled in faith and honour will be meaningless. Young people of Ireland....you are called to respect the bloodline of Irish men and women who sacrificed through poverty and suffering refusing to bend with an iron will....standing together to fight united in hearts and spirits to protect this beautiful land of ours. We drove the snakes and the Brits out...now we face a more hidden, indirect, sneaky, insidious threat... the threat of secularism and the accusers of today. We can redeem ourselves even after all the mistakes and greed of the Celtic tiger...its not too late to respect the brave irish people who went before us. Them bells are in our hearts Fred....in all seriousness its about much more than the bells. The angelus is only the tip of the iceberg for whats coming. Lets take a stand IRELAND. lets stand together. We were always stronger that way.


  • #425
    Fred Swanson
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  • #426
    Skrynesaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Skrynesaver


    TírChonaill a stór yours is only barely the most out there post in this thread, perhaps the sunstroke is getting to you?


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  • #427
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Skrynesaver wrote: »
    TírChonaill a stór yours is only barely the most out there post in this thread, perhaps the sunstroke is getting to you?

    Too much pineapple pizza and jaffa cakes maybe?


  • #428
    Fred Swanson
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  • #429
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    LuckyDude12 wrote: »
    I second on you with that.
    Don't see how a minute of silence can affect a persons life ENORMOUSLY!!

    It's not a minute of silence, it's a minute of religious propoganda on a state broadcaster of a supposedly secular nation disguised as a minute of quiet reflection.


  • #430
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    I see we've descended into semantic arguments again?

    Are you suprised given the opposition's inability to make valid points and argue their position coherently?


  • #431
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,595 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    what's silent about it, they are bells are you are meant to recite the hail mary both ends are not meant to be silent


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  • #432
    tirchonaill86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭tirchonaill86


    I am a first timer! I come in peace! i realise that some people may be disturbed by my comments in time to come but i don't mind. You can't speak the truth and be liked at the same time in todays day and age. I am not a sheep but a shepard...a shepard who is sad to see his flock go astray. For they know not what they do. Though i am not the ruler nor control any man or beast on this island, i seek to lead or educate if you will. I am a beacon of enlightenment in a dark place. My mission is to serve. To serve others....to give to receive. I have love for my fellow brothers and sisters. I have no problem sitting on buddhas lap for a selfie. I have no problem hanging out with muhammad, as long as its doesn't involve ak s and dynamite, or having ice cream with a protestant. But people need to remember that the ligaments, tendons and organs are one unique art project that requires thanks and blind faith. Beware of the wolf who dresses like dolly....dont get roped into the worldly views...the vortex or whirlpool of lies if you will. For never forget who the father of lies is. But never ever forget no matter what you do as pat short famously once said enjoy yourselves. kids, adults, elderly alike wear nice clothes, brush your teeth and smile, everybody bring back the hug and childlike silliness. Talk rather than tweet...write rather than text. Don't read the newspapers they will only get you down. And folks....wear sunscreen because there is a heatwave coming tomorrow and I'm fair skinned i don't know about you but i only like to feel the burn on a deep squat with a fine petite bouncing bottom out front on a fast rolling treadmill. Theres nothing wrong with controlled lust or a gentle glance even in marriage. We are only human after all. Don't beat yourselves up ok? Bless.


  • #433
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    But we can still eat Hawaiian pizza right? RIGHT??????


  • #434
    tirchonaill86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭tirchonaill86


    As long as its not genetically modified yeah? Now hybridised pineapple trees they are a tougher climb. Even the monkeys know. You have to know your onions. Preferably organic. But never steal from the health food store. Its tempting and we are only human. Pineapples from costa rica are ok....pineapples from the USA i would leave it personally. Knock three times on the pineapple to erase suspicion.


  • #435
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    tirchonaill86 wrote: »
    I am a first timer! I come in peace! i realise that some people may be disturbed by my comments in time to come but i don't mind. You can't speak the truth and be liked at the same time in todays day and age. I am not a sheep but a shepard...a shepard who is sad to see his flock go astray. For they know not what they do. Though i am not the ruler nor control any man or beast on this island, i seek to lead or educate if you will. I am a beacon of enlightenment in a dark place. My mission is to serve. To serve others....to give to receive. I have love for my fellow brothers and sisters. I have no problem sitting on buddhas lap for a selfie. I have no problem hanging out with muhammad, as long as its doesn't involve ak s and dynamite, or having ice cream with a protestant. But people need to remember that the ligaments, tendons and organs are one unique art project that requires thanks and blind faith. Beware of the wolf who dresses like dolly....dont get roped into the worldly views...the vortex or whirlpool of lies if you will. For never forget who the father of lies is. But never ever forget no matter what you do as pat short famously once said enjoy yourselves. kids, adults, elderly alike wear nice clothes, brush your teeth and smile, everybody bring back the hug and childlike silliness. Talk rather than tweet...write rather than text. Don't read the newspapers they will only get you down. And folks....wear sunscreen because there is a heatwave coming tomorrow and I'm fair skinned i don't know about you but i only like to feel the burn on a deep squat with a fine petite bouncing bottom out front on a fast rolling treadmill. Theres nothing wrong with controlled lust or a gentle glance even in marriage. We are only human after all. Don't beat yourselves up ok? Bless.

    WUT?


  • #436
    tirchonaill86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭tirchonaill86


    Hi there! Which part do you feel you need explained? Bless.


  • #437
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,595 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Michael Martin to the big T
    Did the Atheist Association, on which I have a question, raise the issue of the Angelus? It made very strong representations to RTE. I believe it is overdoing it in this regard. One cannot just excise out of existence Christian beliefs and the need for reflection. I would have believed that what now stands for the Angelus, the moment of reflection before the "Six One News", is not exactly injurious or offensive to anyone. One runs the risk of becoming offensive and intolerant of the various manifestations of spirituality and religion in the country. There is a need for balance in the public debate. I would accept the bona fides expressed in the debate on the more substantive issues but when the debate focuses on such micro elements, it offends many people.
    http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/takes/dail2015063000026?opendocument

    AI didn't mention in their own report of the meeting http://atheist.ie/2015/02/historic-first-meeting-taoiseach/
    On the fundamental issue of school patronage, resources comprise the key issue in primary schools today. Sometimes this does not get said enough. I visit many primary schools - Educate Together, Catholic and Church of Ireland schools. It needs to be said that there are people of many faiths and none on the campuses of denominational schools which cater for them in a very harmonious and effective way. There are many different nationalities and people of different religions and none in many of our primary schools who get along fine. We need to acknowledge that in terms of the development of primary and secondary school settings. Critical mass is important. We are now constructing three or four schools in very close proximity to each other and that also needs to be thought through as well in terms of the proper use of resources, a bit of common sense and an understanding of where various people are coming from. Resources at primary level are a major issue in terms of the capitation grant, pupil-teacher ratio and a range of other supports that have been taken from primary schools in recent times. Many teachers and principals are fed up with the phoney debate on patronage entered into by the previous Minister for Education and Skills. It is a load of bluster and spin with no substance behind it yet it distracts from core issues facing teachers.

    think Atheist Ireland/TEach don't Preach needs to have chat with Michael Martin if they havn't already


  • #438
    SpaceTime
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    tirchonaill86 wrote: »
    The angelus is part of the rock this country of ours is built on...its faith. You are entitled to whatever you believe in or choose not to believe in. That is your decision and i respect that. But whoever wants to challenge parts of what Ireland was built on can go somewhere else as far as I'm concerned. Is it that painful for you guys to respect our one minute of silent reverence? This is Ireland....we fought and died for this beautiful christian country of ours. We welcome all faiths or lack of it as equals but please respect whats important to us. God bless.

    Advocating a bit of sectarian / ethnic / philosophical cleansing now are we?

    You're calling on other people to respect your views while telling other Irish people to get out of their own country!

    That is absolutely not the Ireland that our revolutionaries and most of our forefathers and foremothers fought for.


  • #439
    Absolam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    1. Yes many people the world over feel the need for omnipotent sky fairies and I've met plenty of them, they usually refer to them as God and there are many Gods, which is strange because most people claim that their God is the real God, who's right do you know? Anyway I'm not a believer though so I don't fully understand the need for an omnipotent sky fairy, perhaps you as a believer could better explain that to me?
    So, would the short version of that be no, you haven't ever met someone who told you they needed omnipotent sky fairies?
    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    2. Been covered already, not interested in going around in circles.
    No you alleged it already, you never even attempted to substantiate it.
    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    3. I believe you're 87.46583648% right on that, give or take 33.58476563R2D2%
    I'll happily take the majority.
    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    4. Same as 2.
    NOt at all, but feel free to quote it if you think you did.
    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    5. Expect for before the 6.01 news of course.
    Would you care to point out where that right is specified? I think that claiming it's a right just because it happens and you don't like it is a bit of a stretch....
    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    6. Don't want to see 'atheism' on TV to balance out the angelus, again we've been through that.
    Which is fine for you, but perhaps Catholics do want time on tv that reflects their beliefs. Why should they give up what they want just because you don't want it?
    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    7. Thank you for that, you've been very helpful, it's always nice to hear from priggish people when you've committed heinous crimes :)
    You're welcome. If you didn't like the answer though, you can only blame yourself for asking the question.
    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    8. I'm not in fear of your post, you just highlighted the penchant the religious have for attempting to spread fear. I actually loved that post because you showed yourself up, it was excellent, keep it coming :D
    Well, if you weren't in fear, then no fear was spread. Which excellently illustrates my own point about hyperbole being a tool heavily favoured by those trying to make a point seem more than it is.


  • #440
    Absolam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    oldrnwisr wrote: »
    Just one minor point here.
    Self-identification is not something which is relevant to this debate. Just because someone says they're a catholic doesn't make them one. I could claim to be a vegetarian, but if I do so while eating an XL Bacon Double Cheese Burger then my statement is inherently untrue. This is because vegetarianism has a specified meaning. Catholicism on a theological and a practical basis carries specified meanings and requirements.
    In fairness this particular thread of the discussion stems directly from a specific assertion about self identification by Nicolas Cage:
    Nicolas Cage wrote: »
    I think Huntergonzo's point was that if they were in any way honest with themselves, they wouldn't call themselves catholics
    So whilst it may not be all that relevant to the wider debate about the Angelus, self identification is the crux of this particular (sub-sub) discussion, and it seems to have enough relevence to exercise some opinions. I agree, there are definitive conditions set out for what is required to be a Catholic, and I did offer an explanation of what it takes to be a part of the Catholic Church in answer to Marks point that the word Catholicism means nothing to everyone if it can mean anything to anyone.
    oldrnwisr wrote: »
    With regard to theology, <...> So the question is, if you don't agree with the teachings of the church, to what extent are you really catholic. If you're a member of the Man Utd. supporters club but you think that the best team are Chelsea, then to what extent are you really a Man Utd. supporter.
    I don't disagree that the Catholic Church is the ultimate arbiter of who is Catholic. However, the question (so far at least) has not been to what extent you are really Catholic, it has been whether or not you are really Catholic.
    I agree that Catholics can exist in states of grave sin, can be excommunicated, and can be in greater or lesser degrees of communion with the Church. But in all of these states, and whether to the most tenuous or fullest extent, they remain Catholics.
    However, I do believe there is a place for self-identification still. If a Catholic decides they are no longer Catholic, I don't see that they are bound in any way to accept that the Church has power to arbitrate their decision; by renouncing their Catholicism they renounce the Church's authority, and self-identification is the sole test of their position.


  • #441
    Fred Swanson
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  • #442
    Absolam
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    Mark Hamill wrote: »
    The whole point of the label is to describe the contents. If the label doesn't do that, then it is useless.
    Then perhaps you shouldn't use a label that's at odds with what the authority on the subject claims is the case; a claim which is backed up by the tins themselves?
    Mark Hamill wrote: »
    The catholic church agree they are catholic because if they consistently applied there own doctrine, they would decimate their numbers in Ireland. The RCC is as hard on their doctrine as they think they environment allows, hence in the west the pope might ask "Who am I to judge gay people?" whereas in somewhere like the Phillipines he will claim that "[Sexuality, marriage and the family] realities are increasingly under attack from powerful forces which threaten to disfigure God's plan for creation".
    Which part of Catholic doctrine would prohibit any person baptised in the Catholic Church from being Catholic, specifically?


  • #443
    Absolam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    Mark Hamill wrote: »
    Again, putting all this effort into doing anything except answer a few very simple and short questions.
    So when I answer your questions, I'm derailing the discussion.
    When I question your questions, I'm avoiding the discussion.
    I think you may be a little conflicted on what it is to participate in a discussion...
    Mark Hamill wrote: »
    It's clear you don't want discussion to continue on the Creeds because you know it will force to you admit that catholics are supposed to believe them, which contradicts your opening post.
    it's hilarious to watch you squirm.
    Hmm. Are we now moving the goalposts again to what Catholics are supposed to believe, instead of what a catholic is supposed to be, or the original what it takes to be a part of the Catholic Church? I don't particularly mind discussing the Creeds, I don't even mind agreeing that Catholics should probably subscribe to and even profess quite a lot of what they say. Unfortunately for you, that doesn't contradict any of my posts. Not professing the Creeds won't make someone who is Catholic not Catholic.


  • #444
    Absolam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    No, I'm saying it's hypocrisy because they're feigning a stance by coming out with two completely incompatible messages.
    My perspective has little to do with it. To quote the Merriam-Webster dictionary: hypocrisy noun \hi-ˈpä-krə-sē also hī-\": a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion"
    But the Church doesn't feign to believe anything; it believes that to be gay is not sinful, and to engage in gay acts is sinful. You believe that those two messages are incompatible (which doesn't make them hypocritical since both are honestly held), but really, it's no more incompatible than saying that being heterosexual is not sinful, but engaging in heterosexual acts outside of marriage is sinful. Heterosexuals have a get out clause where homosexuals don't but that's just unfair, not hypocritical.
    SpaceTime wrote: »
    They're trying to have their cake and eat it.
    It's a bit like saying "I'm not xenophobic and many of my friends are Irish, lovely people but... I wouldn't want to actually sit next to one.."
    Well, I've no idea what cake you think they're having and eating; I don't see where any advantage to the Church arises out of this. but to your example, yes it could be like that if you honestly weren't xenophobic, yet felt morally obligated not to sit next to Irish people.
    SpaceTime wrote: »
    Likewise you can't really have a major problem with 'gay acts' and come out with statements like in the catechism describing gay people as "“intrinsically disordered” and messages describing Ireland's gay marriage referendum result as a "defeat for humanity" and then say you love gay people!?! -- My perspective is that I can see 'spin' from a mile off.
    Well, you can; the Church obviously did (though to be fair the Catechism actually says " tradition has always declared that homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered (my bold)". You may see it as 'spin', others may see it as the Church reconciling Jesus's commandment to love one another with Gods instruction that to lie with a man as with a woman is an abomination.
    SpaceTime wrote: »
    I think trying to wrap the spin the Angelus into a pretend secular thing is also the height of hypocrisy and probably a bit blasphemous too.
    Well, I don't know if any Catholics are advocating the Angelus should become a secular thing; I'd rather examine their reasoning before deciding if I thought it was hypocritical. As for blasphemous, I don't think not having the Angelus is blasphemous, and I don't think having a secular event at the time of the Angelus is blasphemous, so I'm not sure where you're going there...


  • #445
    Absolam
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    No need to suppose it, I added the last line of my post in edit, dealing with just that. After you posted I'm afraid, sorry about that, but at least you have an answer to your question!


  • #446
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Also, given the number of posts and quotes within them to the 'machine gun' school of debate.


  • #447
    Absolam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    obplayer wrote: »
    Also, given the number of posts and quotes within them to the 'machine gun' school of debate.
    Consider it a token of respect for people putting effort into multi-point posts that I try to respond to as many as possible of a posters points, rather than just offering a bland catchall response aimed more at the posters than their posts :)


  • #448
    tirchonaill86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭tirchonaill86


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    Advocating a bit of sectarian / ethnic / philosophical cleansing now are we?

    You're calling on other people to respect your views while telling other Irish people to get out of their own country!

    That is absolutely not the Ireland that our revolutionaries and most of our forefathers and foremothers fought for.

    I most certainly am not advocating any form of cleansing. I am absolutely against any form of oppressive violence or indeed forced deportations. I am merely stating that as part of our cultural and religious identity, i find it extremely disrespectful for people whether they are Irish or indeed foreign to try to remove what is important to the majority of Irish people. We don't own very much of anything anymore here in Ireland and you want to take away the small moment of the day that we can feel at peace with ourselves in reflection. This is our history. This is the very soul of what it means to be Irish for the majority. This is the link to our past and that past isn't all dark. I am not asking anyone to leave, but i am saying that if you want to come here of different faith or you want to stay with none, you need to respect the wishes of the majority of our society. To do anything else would be social deviance and not congruent with the values of a predominantly catholic country. Im all for respecting other faiths/religions, and i don't mind facilitating other faiths wishes, thats what makes me christian but come on now space-time i don't know what your main issue is with a catholics small moment of reflection? Whats your problem with it may i ask? I respect an atheists right to their own views but they must also respect our rights as believers. Its really simple. If they don't, well maybe they are in the wrong place or need to have a good long think to themselves. Because I'm just thinking of them out of love, its not very healthy if they feel that strongly about these issues to be listening to the bells at six o clock. But maybe they could change the channel for a minute? i can't possibly accept how one could feel so offended at another human beings right to reflect on their faith. And also when i said they can go somewhere else, maybe what i should have said is they may need to go somewhere else for their own sakes as suppressed emotion or unresolved conflict is a major risk factor in premature morbidity. So i apologise for my wording it may have caused offence or been deemed aggressive so i am sorry for that. I just want everyone to get along, love one another as human beings number one, and we can all practice or faiths or lack of here in Ireland, while respecting the people that defended this island and sacrificed their lives under oppression, forced slavery and ethnic cleansing regimes. Surely you guys would respect the rock that this country was built on, surely you would have love for the men, women and children that went before us by allowing us to carry on their traditions and let us keep what we hold dear in our hearts ourselves??? We have to separate the mistakes of the catholic church from this also, their leadership was obviously flawed but our faith remains our faith. Goodnight and God bless Ireland from all threats great and small.


  • #449
    padohaodha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭padohaodha


    This old chestnut again...change the channel if ure offended.there are far bigger issues in ireland.get over it.


  • #450
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    Absolam wrote: »
    So, would the short version of that be no, you haven't ever met someone who told you they needed ?

    So now you want to ask the questions and answer them? I told you I have meet people who feel the need for omnipotent sky fairies, I would say most people who believe in god without a shred of evidence must feel the need for one otherwise what's the point in believing in an all powerful, unproven sky fairy? And as I asked you before which god is the real one? why are there so many gods anyway? and do you believe in all those other gods?
    Absolam wrote: »
    Which is fine for you, but perhaps Catholics do want time on tv that reflects their beliefs. Why should they give up what they want just because you don't want it?

    You seem to have a very fundamental problem understanding the idea of a state being neutral so it's fair for all, either that or I was right when I said you have the 'we're the catholic majority so you can fcuk off' attitude. Listen I really don't care which of those 2 options are correct, I am 99.46457346% sure give or take 0.24727% that it's one or the other though. So feel free to have the last word on this issue, I know people like you blow their load of getting the last word.
    Absolam wrote: »
    Well, if you weren't in fear, then no fear was spread. Which excellently illustrates my own point about hyperbole being a tool heavily favoured by those trying to make a point seem more than it is.

    Well that just means mission failed for you so because the attempt to spread fear was there, and spreading fear is the foundation which religion is built on. You highlighted that even more by the way I caught you editing the post to add in a few more sentences (rather than just correcting an error for example, but I'm sure you don't make errors anyway), it was great, someone who fancies himself getting caught with the trousers down :)


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  • #451
    padohaodha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭padohaodha


    I thought the it was decorum onboards to play the topic and not the man.ure just scoring points against a poster
    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    So now you want to ask the questions and answer them? I told you I have meet people who feel the need for omnipotent sky fairies, I would say most people who believe in god without a shred of evidence must feel the need for one otherwise what's the point in believing in an all powerful, unproven sky fairy? And as I asked you before which god is the real one? why are there so many gods anyway? and do you believe in all those other gods?



    You seem to have a very fundamental problem understanding the idea of a state being neutral so it's fair for all, either that or I was right when I said you have the 'we're the catholic majority so you can fcuk off' attitude. Listen I really don't care which of those 2 options are correct, I am 99.46457346% sure give or take 0.24727% that it's one or the other though. So feel free to have the last word on this issue, I know people like you blow their load of getting the last word.



    Well that just means mission failed for you so because the attempt to spread fear was there, and spreading fear is the foundation which religion is built on. You highlighted that even more by the way I caught you editing the post to add in a few more sentences (rather than just correcting an error for example, but I'm sure you don't make errors anyway), it was great, someone who fancies himself getting caught with the trousers down :)


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