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  • #9392
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    I reckon whatever they have banked wont be long getting a good hole made in it especially when you take into account the bought in ground this year, their system just smacks of getting milk out of cows for the sake of it...
    given the scale of the operation a couple of pence loss on the litres they are producing would sink a farm fairly quick once your in a system like theirs you cant really cut costs when your dealing with their type of cows and overheads

    where you see that article?


  • #9393
    Deepsouthwest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Just totting up months supply figures and going to send in just short of 1000 Ltrs less this month compared to May (same ammount of collections ).cows held peak extremely well this year solids figures will also be up on June 14 ,should hit 3.58 average p for month but only 3.53 fat

    V similar story here re litres, although admittedly my littes wouldn't be as high as urs, also got 3.58 protein for May milk this yr (highest I've ever had for may milk). Unfortunately it didn't kick on for june, will struggle to break the 3.60 average, not that that's anything to be ashamed off. Butterfat doing ok here, will average in the mid 3.90's. Between this and the v favourable weather it's all a big help in a bad milk price yr.


  • #9394
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    I reckon whatever they have banked wont be long getting a good hole made in it especially when you take into account the bought in ground this year, their system just smacks of getting milk out of cows for the sake of it...
    given the scale of the operation a couple of pence loss on the litres they are producing would sink a farm fairly quick once your in a system like theirs you cant really cut costs when your dealing with their type of cows and overheads

    They cant be doing too bad if there able too buy land.


  • #9395
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Deepsouthwest wrote: »
    V similar story here re litres, although admittedly my littes wouldn't be as high as urs, also got 3.58 protein for May milk this yr (highest I've ever had for may milk). Unfortunately it didn't kick on for june, will struggle to break the 3.60 average, not that that's anything to be ashamed off. Butterfat doing ok here, will average in the mid 3.90's. Between this and the v favourable weather it's all a big help in a bad milk price yr.

    Yeah same here down 4k litres on last June but will be coming in .14 ahead on p to 3.59 and .05 up in bf to 3.88 having fed less ration as well. Must try to keep it up now and watch the grass with the boost in growth likely to come this week. If the solids can keep the price up to 30c or close to it for remainder of low spell it would help big time


  • #9396
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    It'll be like hay basicly. Thats how they do it in johnstown castle. On that till there on the point of calving and then there briught into the shed to calve
    Don't see how it'd be a problem better than them eating regrowths that are full of N off the paddocks and ill be reducing what grass I grow and taking longer to build up grass fir the fall
    You've dried them up very early no?
    only giving ours 6 wks. They in very good condition

    Will you have silage ground coming back in gg? Will be drying off here start of August so will keep them on poorer paddocks and hopefully will have after grass from second cut coming in mid august to drop stocking rate to 2.6 or so. Six to eight weeks on very strong grass may not be great for em. How ye managing minerals?, have always used licks here but not too keen anymore in case badgers come a calling. Could try and get something to keep em up high but cows would knock most stuff


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  • #9397
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Milked out wrote: »
    Will you have silage ground coming back in gg? Will be drying off here start of August so will keep them on poorer paddocks and hopefully will have after grass from second cut coming in mid august to drop stocking rate to 2.6 or so. Six to eight weeks on very strong grass may not be great for em. How ye managing minerals?, have always used licks here but not too keen anymore in case badgers come a calling. Could try and get something to keep em up high but cows would knock most stuff

    Yeah sr will be down to 2 come August. Thinking of reseeding 11 ac if I can so that'll leave us at
    2.2/ 2.3
    Would strong grass be bad for them I'm just going by what there doing in johnstown. Think they have silage in a feeder fir them. I'll have to ask aidan at the next meeting.
    its how the autumn calving herds in England do it.
    mineral in blocks here too. Never thought about badgers tbh. Is there molasses in yours? Nome in ours. Will prob just use bagel minerals and put in a barrel in fiekd they eat them no problem that way


  • #9398
    jaymla627
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,124 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    awaywithyou wrote: »
    where you see that article?

    Irish tractor and agri June edition


  • #9399
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    http://ow.ly/OUXaG how to deal with low bf


  • #9400
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    whelan2 wrote: »
    http://ow.ly/OUXaG how to deal with low bf

    Pure advertising
    remember they did a piece on eprinex during spring
    one farmer was dousing cows with it when they calved. Wasnt dosing them at dry off with a white dose

    He must have been looking for the dearest way to do things


  • #9401
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Got a dose early last week and of course being the hero that I am did nothing about it. That was a mistake and had to spend half Fri all Sat and Sunday in bed.

    Ticking over this am but no work in me. My advise is if you feel this coming on stop and hit the hay. Wife was telling me of a few people took a week to get over it


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  • #9402
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Cow Porter wrote: »
    Just plugged mine out and yes still flashing after 5 mins.
    Was wired for 3 phase so electrician put in connectors for single phase.
    Not sure how long it takes to heat, be 3 or 4 hours anyway I'd say.
    It holds 100 litres but the water can only come out by cold water going in, so it's never 100 litres of hot water coming out of the tap. No controllable thermostat here either which would be handy to know.

    Milking machine uses a vented water heater. Fills during the day, heats that amount of water @ night and dumps that amount of hot water out in am and it's all 85 degrees

    Hmm.. mine still flashing green after 3 days disconnected. Either its a weird set up or there is some mighty insulation in that tank.

    Point taken about the water temperature, should have thought of that and ordered the bigger one, bit tight to get the temperature up to wash the milking machine but I think it will do the trick if we are careful.


  • #9403
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Got a dose early last week and of course being the hero that I am did nothing about it. That was a mistake and had to spend half Fri all Sat and Sunday in bed.

    Ticking over this am but no work in me. My advise is if you feel this coming on stop and hit the hay. Wife was telling me of a few people took a week to get over it
    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/humid-warm-and-showery-weather-for-the-week-ahead-met-eireann/
    this might cheer ye up. Off to spread fert noe2


  • #9404
    KCTK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭KCTK


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Got a dose early last week and of course being the hero that I am did nothing about it. That was a mistake and had to spend half Fri all Sat and Sunday in bed.

    Ticking over this am but no work in me. My advise is if you feel this coming on stop and hit the hay. Wife was telling me of a few people took a week to get over it

    Don't say that, feel like I'm getting a really bad head cold this morning with sore throat and pain in the head, hopefully only a distant relation of what you got, limsip to the max to try keeping under control


  • #9405
    Blackgrass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Got a dose early last week and of course being the hero that I am did nothing about it. That was a mistake and had to spend half Fri all Sat and Sunday in bed.

    Ticking over this am but no work in me. My advise is if you feel this coming on stop and hit the hay. Wife was telling me of a few people took a week to get over it

    Did try tell you :).


  • #9406
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Blackgrass wrote: »
    Did try tell you :).

    Tbf you did and yes I scoffed, more fool me


  • #9407
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Tbf you did and yes I scoffed, more fool me

    Anytime I feel the sniffles coming on now I treat myself like I would a sick calf or cow.,hit the meds early and hard


  • #9408
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    When sick here I try to horse in to the oranges and keep drinking and eating as much as I can, seems to pull me thru most of the time with the soups and decongestants thrown in for head colds


  • #9409
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Yeah sr will be down to 2 come August. Thinking of reseeding 11 ac if I can so that'll leave us at
    2.2/ 2.3
    Would strong grass be bad for them I'm just going by what there doing in johnstown. Think they have silage in a feeder fir them. I'll have to ask aidan at the next meeting.
    its how the autumn calving herds in England do it.
    mineral in blocks here too. Never thought about badgers tbh. Is there molasses in yours? Nome in ours. Will prob just use bagel minerals and put in a barrel in fiekd they eat them no problem that way

    It's not that's bad for them as such it's just that when you will be drying them off in the condition you want them to calve in and having a short dry period you don't want them going back either, I know it's hard to get the balance right. Correct ting would be to seperate them on condition but thats another group again. But when they calve bang on they really can drive on thru the winter with the consistency the diet can bring.


  • #9410
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Got a dose early last week and of course being the hero that I am did nothing about it. That was a mistake and had to spend half Fri all Sat and Sunday in bed.

    Ticking over this am but no work in me. My advise is if you feel this coming on stop and hit the hay. Wife was telling me of a few people took a week to get over it

    What you need now is a week at the seaside ;)


  • #9411
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    http://theglobaldairy.com/noticias/synthetic-dairy-developer-warns-of-over-production-of-milk-in-ireland-43294/

    Great man for the spin anyway, no mention of how much more regulation we have here over nz. Slowly trying to knock us back


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  • #9412
    yosemitesam1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Pure advertising
    remember they did a piece on eprinex during spring
    one farmer was dousing cows with it when they calved. Wasnt dosing them at dry off with a white dose

    He must have been looking for the dearest way to do things
    Is it not odd they don't show it gives an increase in bf


  • #9413
    Cow Porter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    kowtow wrote: »
    Hmm.. mine still flashing green after 3 days disconnected. Either its a weird set up or there is some mighty insulation in that tank.

    Point taken about the water temperature, should have thought of that and ordered the bigger one, bit tight to get the temperature up to wash the milking machine but I think it will do the trick if we are careful.

    Cotswold sell the vented type. Think I saw them in journal by some Collins agri?


  • #9414
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    i put ectospec on cows this morning-no flies this evening:)- how soon could i put eprinex on some of them or does it matter?


  • #9415
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    whelan2 wrote: »
    i put ectospec on cows this morning-no flies this evening:)- how soon could i put eprinex on some of them or does it matter?

    Why Eprinex?


  • #9416
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Why Eprinex?
    because i got a very good deal on it a while ago, eprinex doesnt do for flies


  • #9417
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    whelan2 wrote: »
    because i got a very good deal on it a while ago, eprinex doesnt do for flies

    If you use Eprinex and the cows don't have worms, is that a good deal?

    Have you tested for worms?


  • #9418
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    If you use Eprinex and the cows don't have worms, is that a good deal?

    Have you tested for worms?
    i am doing the 1st lactation heifers latest glanbia results came back high for worms, all cows done for worms with white dose at drying off, was going to dung sample them then in a few weeks


  • #9419
    WheatenBriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭WheatenBriar


    whelan2 wrote: »
    i am doing the 1st lactation heifers latest glanbia results came back high for worms, all cows done for worms with white dose at drying off, was going to dung sample them then in a few weeks
    The milk test?
    My own vet told me that test was a load of rubbish!


  • #9420
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    WheatenBriar wrote: »
    The milk test?
    My own vet told me that test was a load of rubbish!

    My vet says it's more accurate because dung is not accurate fir hoose which is what really hits 1st lac hard


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  • #9421
    darragh_haven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    My vet says it's more accurate because dung is not accurate fir hoose which is what really hits 1st lac hard

    Doctors differ and patients die.


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