Frasier (And Cheers)

Reoil · 27-06-2015 03:57PM #1

Ok so, after so many complaints about The Simpsons on AH, I thought I'd try to view an opinion on Frasier (and Cheers). Both shows ran for 11 years before deciding that enough was enough. The Simpsons has run its course than both of these two shows put together. Rather burn out than fade away?

To me, Frasier is fantastic. I can watch any episode time after time. Some of them have ingenious writing - nearly Shakespearean in wit and drama.
Which would you rather watch? Have you watched any of them?

nokia69 · 27-06-2015 04:06PM

its close but I think Cheers was a little better

lizzyman · 27-06-2015 04:10PM

Wildcard - I thought 'Becker' was better than both.

Dr Turk Turkelton · 27-06-2015 04:10PM

Frasier for me. Cheers was great at the time but hasn't aged as well.
Rumour has it that Niles character was a low brow version of Aonghus vonBismarck.

Dr Turk Turkelton · 27-06-2015 04:11PM

lizzyman wrote: »

Wildcard - I thought 'Becker' was better than both.

What a great wildcard to pull.

Menas · 27-06-2015 04:11PM

Fraiser for me too.
Cheers looks really cheesy now when I see it. But I did love that Norm character.

suicide_circus · 27-06-2015 04:13PM

I liked that cheers didn't take itself too seriously and you'd sometimes catch the actors laughing and having to compose themselves. I struggle to separate Frasier from Sideshow Bob

Tom Dunne · 27-06-2015 04:15PM

Niles Crane, 'nuff said.

Have a look at the St. Valentine's episode - about 15 minutes of slapstick antics with no dialogue and an iron. It doesn't get any better than that.

lizzyman · 27-06-2015 04:22PM

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

What a great wildcard to pull.

Thanks! Love that show. Some of the dialogue between Becker, Jake (the blind black dude) and the woman who owned the breakfast cafe was just outstanding. I always thought that Dr. House was a blatant copy of it and nowhere near as good.

The Backwards Man · 27-06-2015 04:23PM

I have a rule when it comes to comedies, anything with an apartment as its major setting is painstakingly contrived bullcrap.

Cheers wins by default.

Ruu · 27-06-2015 04:25PM

NORM!

Mam of 4 · 27-06-2015 04:30PM

Frasier !! Still watch it when I come across it, Niles is my favourite , absolutely love his deadpan lines and when he fell in love with Daphne , before she knew, just too funny

Terrontress · 27-06-2015 04:32PM

I always thought Frasier was so good because they make intelligent people comedy. It's easy to laugh at the stupid, but to create comedy that shows you understand intelligence is great.

Son Of A Vidic · 27-06-2015 04:32PM

I really liked Cheers but it doesn't compare to Frasier. In fact for me, nothing before or since compares to Frasier. It was just a show full of comic genius, a one of its kind.

pmasterson95 · 27-06-2015 04:33PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I liked that cheers didn't take itself too seriously and you'd sometimes catch the actors laughing and having to compose themselves. I struggle to separate Frasier from Sideshow Bob

Original Beast from X-Men aswell

27-06-2015 04:36PM

Frasier all the way. Always lovely when ya stumble across an episode and it's a properly high-farce half an hour.

ArtyM · 27-06-2015 05:09PM

Fraiser for me too. I could easily spend an evening rewatching Fraiser episodes, but I couldn't say the same about Cheers.
Cheers had some great moments but I hated that Diane character with a passion.

Reoil · 27-06-2015 05:33PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1CqcvgDrU

:-)

Reoil · 27-06-2015 05:45PM

Kelsey Grammer once quipped that him and Eddie were the only heterosexual members of the cast. (The non-heterosexual including Bulldog, Martin, Niles...)

Dirty Dingus McGee · 27-06-2015 05:49PM

I love both and they were both great but Frasier was better.It just had a sharper, wittier sense of humour and the acting was outstanding as well.

Frasier and the Simpsons are the 2 greatest comedy shows of all time in my opinion no other show can compete with them for the number of laughs per show.

efb · 27-06-2015 05:53PM

Frasier

27-06-2015 06:11PM

Frasier, by an enormous margin. It's so brilliantly written and so lightly played by a brilliant cast, it's just incomparably hilarious.

Favourite episodes are the Niles ironing one, the one where Daphne and Niles tango, and any episode that features Frasier vs Eddie. Niles is a creation of pure comic genius.

anncoates · 27-06-2015 06:16PM

Cheers was a great show and had some of funniest dialogue ever written for TV.

I do like Frasier too but not as much although I've watched less of it.

leahyl · 27-06-2015 06:16PM

FRASIER! Absolutely classic comedy!

Daphne: Dr. Crane...
Niles: Yes, Daphne?
Daphne: We're losing the fire!
Niles: No we're not, it's burning with the heat of a thousand suns!

Frasier: FINE! I guess I'll just have to make my OWN tea!!!

:-D

The_Valeyard · 27-06-2015 06:20PM

Frasier: Niles, before you do something rash, you should consider it from all angles.

Niles: I've spent three years considering Daphne from all angles.

cloud493 · 27-06-2015 06:22PM

"At Cornell University, they have an incredible piece of scientific equipment known as the "tunneling electron microscope." Now, this microscope is so powerful that by firing electrons, you can actually see images of the atom, the infinite decimally minute building block of our universe. Roger, if I were using that microscope right now, I still wouldn't be able to locate my interest in your problem."

leahyl · 27-06-2015 06:24PM

Dr. Niles Crane: Hello, Daphne, Sherry.

Dr. Niles Crane: Double latte, please.

Dr. Niles Crane: Is Frasier with you?

Sherry Dempsey: No, he's out shopping for your dad.

Dr. Niles Crane: That jackal!

[Niles races out of the café. A minute later, Frasier comes in]

Daphne Moon: Dr. Crane, did you find something?

Dr. Frasier Crane: Yes, I did. It took me most of the afternoon but I finally came up with something I think is just about perfect!

Sherry Dempsey: Oh, Niles forgot his coffee.

Dr. Frasier Crane: Niles was here?

Sherry Dempsey: Yes, but you know, when I mentioned that you were out shopping for your dad he just shot out of here like a bullet...

Dr. Frasier Crane: That little worm!

Reoil · 27-06-2015 06:28PM

Frasier: "If they weren't so shortsighted, they'd see that I'm doing this for their own good.
It's like correcting people's grammar - I don't do it to be popular."

osarusan · 27-06-2015 06:44PM

Frasier was hilarious more consistently than Cheers, but it's worth pointing out that Frasier started out with a fully fleshed-out character in Frasier himself, which was an enormous help.

Frasier had similar teething issues with some of their own characters (Daphne Moon in particular evolved a lot over the course of the series, Roz also), but the main character was ready to go from the start.

I think that Cheers at its best was at least as good as Frasier - but it took longer to get to its best.

Reoil · 27-06-2015 06:44PM

"NORM!

Woody: How's life treating you Mr. Peterson?
Norm: Like I slept with his wife."

efb · 27-06-2015 06:46PM

Frasier: Thanks a lot! I was interested in her.
Niles: Well, how was I supposed to know?
Frasier: I was speaking German!
Niles: Oh yes - the language of love!
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