Does Ireland have any contingency plans against terrorism?

Lux23 · 26-06-2015 04:54PM

There is a major emergency group, they have practice runs every so often. I have seem them training, quite serious stuff.

http://www.emergencyplanning.ie/

darkpagandeath · 26-06-2015 04:55PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

Tunisia is a target for terrorists who want to establish a Sunni caliphate.

Ireland is not. Just like with the Romans, we're not on the radar.

These lunatics are attacking western targets to rid these countries of perceived western influences. Ireland is simply not on their radar.

France is attacked because of their colonial past, the whole Charlie Hebdo carry on and the perceived treatment of muslim's there.

We are low risk because we don't fall under any of these categories.

one word Shannon.

Taxburden carrier · 26-06-2015 04:59PM

In line with government policy deny that any incident has occurred

Magico Gonzalez · 26-06-2015 04:59PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

one word Shannon.

Fair point.

I suppose we rely on intelligence sharing from the UK re: threat level as well as our own intelligence.

Bongalongherb · 26-06-2015 05:03PM

KomradeBishop wrote: »

We have a pretty good contingency plan: We haven't invaded any countries or dropped any bombs on them lately - you know, the things that are pissing people off and motivating them to engage in attacks - so we're grand.

News just in... Barack Obama has said he will be sending 25,000 troops to the middle east to deal with terrorists. They will be landing in Shannon Airport on the 8th july 2015 to refuel...

We could quite possibly be in threat regarding this scenario.

CB19Kevo · 26-06-2015 05:05PM

KomradeBishop wrote: »

We have a pretty good contingency plan: We haven't invaded any countries or dropped any bombs on them lately - you know, the things that are pissing people off and motivating them to engage in attacks - so we're grand.

We are a western country with a inclusive society,That in itself makes us a target.Attacking a neutral country like Ireland in a rural location would send a message world wide that nowhere is safe.

I am sure there are some plans in place but the fact that our police force has been decimated and struggles to respond to daily needs means we are not in any way ready.Even with a doubling or tripling of police force,serious investment in intelligence we would still struggle to prevent a attack but at least there would be a rapid response.

fr336 · 26-06-2015 05:09PM

Everyone likes the Irish

5starpool · 26-06-2015 05:09PM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

News just in... Barack Obama has said he will be sending 25,000 troops to the middle east to deal with terrorists. They will be landing in Shannon Airport on the 8th july 2015 to refuel...

We could quite possibly be in threat regarding this scenario.

If we worried about every little action we take setting off some irrational people to kill or maim in the name of some god or another, then we'll be worried a lot. There is not a zero risk to Ireland, but even despite evil things like "some people stopped at an airport here for a couple of hours" it's a much smaller risk than many other countries. Most of these atrocities are carried out in larger Western nations or Muslim countries themselves.

Nuke the whole of the middle east north/africa and be done with it. A nice measured response like that will show them

K.Flyer · 26-06-2015 05:11PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

one word Shannon.

Also our "close" relationships with America and Britain.
I cannot believe some people's naivety that Ireland should be immune to one of these attacks.
ISIS are totally against Everything that is not part of their doctrine and are willing to inflict terror and death upon all "non believers".
Just because we haven't dropped any bombs on their countries, we as a predominantly Christian nation, are, in their mindset, a potential legitimate target.

26-06-2015 05:13PM

I was under the impression that Irish intelligence services on the whole were quite good, not to mention the army and IRW being considered some of the best in the world.

This combined with a lower likelihood of an attack (not no chance of an attack) would seem to me that Ireland is in a safer spot than many other European countries.

darkpagandeath · 26-06-2015 05:14PM

K.Flyer wrote: »

Also our "close" relationships with America and Britain.
I cannot believe some people's naivety that Ireland should be immune to one of these attacks.
ISIS are totally against Everything that is not part of their doctrine and are willing to inflict terror and death upon all "non believers".
Just because we haven't dropped any bombs on their countries, we as a predominantly Christian nation, are, in their mindset, a potential legitimate target.

I never get the delusional, Sure we never hurt anyone crack. People seem to think these guys are Rational. Breaking news people they religious zealot nut jobs.

fiachr_a · 26-06-2015 05:16PM

We don't even have a contingency plan for 1cm of snow.

Magico Gonzalez · 26-06-2015 05:16PM

K.Flyer wrote: »

we as a predominantly Christian nation, are, in their mindset, a potential legitimate target.

This is nonsense.

The Shannon link has some credibility.

They want to establish a Sunni caliphate, they are not declaring war on every non-muslim country. They don't have the scope to do so. They are entangled in sectarian attacks and anti-western attacks in their geography. France is a case apart right now due to the Hebdo stuff and the large home grown Muslim population.

I didn't consider Shannon before, and to be fair it should be something we are concerned about.

That said, I believe most attacks outside of their intended caliphate are carried out by home growns. I don't believe we have a big enough radical community for that to happen right now.

kneemos · 26-06-2015 05:17PM

I'd be more worried about getting struck by lightening than a terrorist attack in Ireland,or abroad for that matter.

Magico Gonzalez · 26-06-2015 05:18PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I never get the delusional, Sure we never hurt anyone crack. People seem to think these guys are Rational. Breaking news people they religious zealot nut jobs.

To do what they do requires planning and targeting, they do that on the basis of having the capacity to launch attacks. They don't turn up on a blame, blow something up and head home.

We don't have enough of a home grown network to be a serious target. France suffer more in that respect given their colonial past in the region. Uk too, obviously.

I would say our biggest risk is UK based insurgents putting 2&2 together re Shannon and relocating here. You'd hope we're monitoring that movement with the UK.

darkpagandeath · 26-06-2015 05:20PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

This is nonsense.

The Shannon link has some credibility.

They want to establish a Sunni caliphate, they are not declaring war on every non-muslim country. They don't have the scope to do so. They are entangled in sectarian attacks and anti-western attacks in their geography. France is a case apart right now due to the Hebdo stuff and the large home grown Muslim population.

I didn't consider Shannon before, and to be fair it should be something we are concerned about.

That said, I believe most attacks outside of their intended caliphate are carried out by home growns. I don't believe we have a big enough radical community for that to happen right now.

We have plenty of people here. Ones threatening to use blasphemy laws and alike. Ones protesting in segregation. People would be fools to think a certain section have integrated. Have ones with ties to other groups in the middle east, ones in jail.

Magico Gonzalez · 26-06-2015 05:22PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

We have plenty of people here. Ones threatening to use blasphemy laws and alike. Ones protesting in segregation. People would be fools to think a certain section have integrated. Have ones with ties to other groups in the middle east, ones in jail.

Sorry, I disagree and I don't believe there is any evidence beyond the anecdotal.

Bongalongherb · 26-06-2015 05:23PM

5starpool wrote: »

If we worried about every little action we take setting off some irrational people to kill or maim in the name of some god or another, then we'll be worried a lot. There is not a zero risk to Ireland, but even despite evil things like "some people stopped at an airport here for a couple of hours" it's a much smaller risk than many other countries. Most of these atrocities are carried out in larger Western nations or Muslim countries themselves.

Nuke the whole of the middle east north/africa and be done with it. A nice measured response like that will show them

But doesn't it make a mockery of the thinking that Ireland is a neutral country.

darkpagandeath · 26-06-2015 05:23PM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

But doesn't it make a mockery of the thinking that Ireland is a neutral country.

Ireland is not and never has been a Neutral country.

Mightydrumming · 26-06-2015 05:24PM

To be fair, it brings the whole 'russian bombers' incident back into perspective. We had to be informed by the UK that the jets were bordering along the coast!

Coveney says he great plans to implement new radar systems etc etc... But apple's don't fall far the tree.

I believe if there were to be an act of terrorism here in the emerald isle, the UK would step in and deal with the situation(s).

Aka Ishur · 26-06-2015 05:26PM

If anyone is under the impression we don't have a seriously capable intelligence service with close links to British intelligence AND 40 years direct experience in dealing with active terrorist organisations, a thread on boards isnt going to wake them up. Not to mention the rangers, one of the most highly regarded elite units in the world....

KomradeBishop · 26-06-2015 05:27PM

hardy_buck wrote: »

What has Tunisia done then? or Nigeria, or Kenya, or Kuwait, or Mumbai?
The people who carry out these atrocities are not just attacking the traditional coalition of UK FR USA, they are trying to attack the very essence of Western society. Boko Haram literally means Western education is forbidden. The things we have spent years trying to accomplish such as womens and minorities rights are the very things these people attack.

There are plenty of wisecracks here but I wonder if the mood would be the same should one of these maniacs do to us what the did to a city not even 300 miles from Dublin...

Eh? What have Tunisia, Nigeria, Kenya, Kuwait or Mumbai got to do with 'western society'?

You know maybe they attacked London, because the UK government was involved in wars in their region...that should be blindingly obvious.

The idea that we are going to be a target of terrorist attacks like that, is silly scaremongering - Ireland is probably among the least likely of European countries, to be the target of an attack from these guys.

darkpagandeath · 26-06-2015 05:27PM

Mightydrumming wrote: »

To be fair, it brings the whole 'russian bombers' incident back into perspective. We had to be informed by the UK that the jets were bordering along the coast!

Coveney says he great plans to implement new radar systems etc etc... But apple's don't fall far the tree.

I believe if there were to be an act of terrorism here in the emerald isle, the UK would step in and deal with the situation(s).

I would say those lads with gas masks and black clothes would be over in choppers fairly sharpish. To support and help out the IRW.

Bongalongherb · 26-06-2015 05:30PM

Who is to say that this scenario of trying to bomb shannon airport full of U.S military aircraft and personnel will not happen. Ireland is lax in border controls and Identification of immigrants, just like the worker ant... they will scout an area and when they find a nice relaxed quiet place they will work on what they are going to do, and build the nest until they strike.

Shannon is a problem indeed imo.

Bongalongherb · 26-06-2015 05:31PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Ireland is not and never has been a Neutral country.

Well the Irish always thought it was. I know it's not but there are still many who think it is was my point

KomradeBishop · 26-06-2015 05:32PM

Boring username wrote: »

I'd like to remind all the comedians and hilarious wags that an Irish woman was killed today in the Tunisian attacks. I don't get what's so funny about preparing for a potential terrorist attack, maybe someone can enlighten me? We've been lucky so far, maybe if a few more of you started asking serious questions about our defences instead of making smart remarks we can continue to be lucky.

Preparing for the threat of 'terrorism' is usually a by-word for rolling back of civil liberties in a country, in a way that is completely disproportionate to any threat; so any scaremongering about 'terrorists' deserves quite a high amount of ridicule.

The last time there was such an attack south of the border, was something like 40 years ago, and likely aided by Britain.

fr336 · 26-06-2015 05:33PM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Who is to say that this scenario of trying to bomb shannon airport full of U.S military aircraft and personnel will not happen. Ireland is lax in border controls and Identification of immigrants, just like the worker ant... they will scout an area and when they find a nice relaxed quiet place they will work on what they are going to do, and build the nest until they strike.

Shannon is a problem indeed imo.

Hey if you say it often enough it might just happen, prevention should be sought over cure. I swear some people want an attack to happen, just to be in with the 'big boys'. There's only so much you can do to stop determined people, putting ideas in their heads isn't the first thing I'd do :rolleyes::rolleyes:

KomradeBishop · 26-06-2015 05:35PM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

News just in... Barack Obama has said he will be sending 25,000 troops to the middle east to deal with terrorists. They will be landing in Shannon Airport on the 8th july 2015 to refuel...

We could quite possibly be in threat regarding this scenario.

The US have military bases practically everywhere - and all they do here is pass by Shannon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases

K.Flyer · 26-06-2015 05:35PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

This is nonsense.

The Shannon link has some credibility.

They want to establish a Sunni caliphate, they are not declaring war on every non-muslim country. They don't have the scope to do so. They are entangled in sectarian attacks and anti-western attacks in their geography. France is a case apart right now due to the Hebdo stuff and the large home grown Muslim population.

I didn't consider Shannon before, and to be fair it should be something we are concerned about.

That said, I believe most attacks outside of their intended caliphate are carried out by home growns. I don't believe we have a big enough radical community for that to happen right now.

I am not expecting to see Toyota Hi Lux pick up trucks with A.A. gunners on the back and black ISIS flags coming off the ferry any time soon.
But what I don't rule out a looney radicalised small cell, maybe only one person, carrying out an attack and declaring it all in the name of ISIS.
That's where I believe the potential threat is.

darkpagandeath · 26-06-2015 05:35PM

fr336 wrote: »

Hey if you say it often enough it might just happen, prevention should be sought over cure. I swear some people want an attack to happen, just to be in with the 'big boys'. There's only so much you can do to stop determined people, putting ideas in their heads isn't the first thing I'd do :rolleyes::rolleyes:

You would swear people have never forced their way into Shannon before.

Does Ireland have any contingency plans against terrorism?

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