Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

Skylinehead · 23-06-2015 12:23PM

Arsenal have over £200 million in the bank, pretty sure they could afford it if they wanted to.

Rayne Wooney · 23-06-2015 12:37PM

JPA wrote: »

Mad as he is, I think Vidal could be what they need.

Vidal is what every team needs, probably the best midfielder in the world on his day

23-06-2015 12:37PM

I haven't really thought Cech was up to the hype for a good few years now. Before the Stephen Hunt incident he was fantastic, one of the best periods I've ever seen a keeper have. I think that incident rocked him as it might do anyone but he's slower to throw himself around and started making more mistakes based on his apprehension and over thinking things.

He's not and has never really been as reactive as the very best shot stoppers but would have an almost psychic ability to know where the ball would be going. I think at the moment he's very good for Arsenal but I do also like Ospina and think he earned a shot last season. Cech has always played behind an ultra defensive team and as good as Arsenal have/could be, they'll never be that under Wenger. He's going to have a lot more work to do and it could be either good or bad, I like him so hope it's good but it remains to be seen.

hullaballoo · 23-06-2015 01:12PM

Some of the opinions on Cech are frankly laughable. The man is and has been solid as a rock bar a brief period when he came back from that injury.

I don't want to engage in ranking him against other keepers - Neuer for example is a completely different kettle of fish as a keeper, so it's like comparing apples and oranges.

As a Chelsea supporter, there was no difference for me whether Cech or Courtois started last season. They are at a very similar level. Courtois is probably slightly more prone to idiocy where Cech's experience protects him whilst Courtois has an uncanny capability to stop shots.

stephenl15 · 23-06-2015 01:13PM

hullaballoo wrote: »

Some of the opinions on Cech are frankly laughable. The man is and has been solid as a rock bar a brief period when he came back from almost being murdered by that thug.

I don't want to engage in ranking him against other keepers - Neuer for example is a completely different kettle of fish as a keeper, so it's like comparing apples and oranges.

As a Chelsea supporter, there was no difference for me whether Cech or Courtois started last season. They are at a very similar level. Courtois is probably slightly more prone to idiocy where Cech's experience protects him whilst Courtois has an uncanny capability to stop shots.

Murder.. Thug... Lie down would ya!

GLaDOS · 23-06-2015 01:15PM

Liam O wrote: »

I haven't really thought Cech was up to the hype for a good few years now. Before the Stephen Hunt incident he was fantastic, one of the best periods I've ever seen a keeper have. I think that incident rocked him as it might do anyone but he's slower to throw himself around and started making more mistakes based on his apprehension and over thinking things.

His form dropped a bit after he came back, but he was back to his best after a couple of shakey years. He was almost inhumanly good at times in Chelsea's CL run when they went on to win it.

hullaballoo · 23-06-2015 01:53PM

stephenl15 wrote: »

Murder.. Thug... Lie down would ya!

Don't know what you're talking about pal.

stephenl15 · 23-06-2015 01:54PM

hullaballoo wrote: »

Don't know what you're talking about pal.

Nice editing pal

pmasterson95 · 23-06-2015 02:11PM

stephenl15 wrote: »

Nice editing pal

Not really it can still be seen in the post you quoted so it just looks more petty.

pmasterson95 · 23-06-2015 02:13PM

Anywho as this is a transfer thread - Lowton and Sylla have joined the Villa exodus.

Maarten Stekelenburg has joined Southampton on loan. Good move until Forster recovers from his injury.

Cantona's Collars · 23-06-2015 02:49PM

https://twitter.com/SwansOfficial/status/613332975695069184

A new 'keeper for Swansea.

inforfun · 23-06-2015 03:26PM

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SwansOfficial/status/613332975695069184

A new 'keeper for Swansea.

Impressive.
Not his goalkeeping but the fact i havent read anything at all about this before the deal was done in the Dutch media

ERG89 · 23-06-2015 03:36PM

Godot. wrote: »

Doubt Arsenal could afford Juve's valuation of Vidal

More important question would be why would he go to Arsenal?
He's at a team looking to build and already challenge for major trophies

cson · 23-06-2015 04:33PM

ERG89 wrote: »

More important question would be why would he go to Arsenal?
He's at a team looking to build and already challenge for major trophies

Why did Sanchez and Ozil go to Arsenal?

He's won everything in Italy, so realistically the major trophy you're referring to is the CL. Would he have a better chance of winning that in the next few years with Juventus? Maybe he would. Then again I'm sure most would be surprised to see them in the final again next year.

Maybe he'd like a cut at the EPL, play with his mate Sanchez and earn a fortune whilst doing so? I'd imagine we can at least match if not better what Juve are paying him.

Why does anyone move anywhere? *head against wall* :rolleyes:

ERG89 · 23-06-2015 05:27PM

cson wrote: »

Why did Sanchez and Ozil go to Arsenal?

He's won everything in Italy, so realistically the major trophy you're referring to is the CL. Would he have a better chance of winning that in the next few years with Juventus? Maybe he would. Then again I'm sure most would be surprised to see them in the final again next year.

Maybe he'd like a cut at the EPL, play with his mate Sanchez and earn a fortune whilst doing so? I'd imagine we can at least match if not better what Juve are paying him.

Why does anyone move anywhere? *head against wall* :rolleyes:

They went to Arsenal because Bale and Suarez were bought in....don't see Juve actively looking to sell him like Özil and Sanchez were clearly no longer needed.
yeah I do think Juve have a better chance of winning the Champions League and he could do better than Arsenal if he wanted to leave Juve.

23-06-2015 05:29PM

Arsenal's squad is really underrated on here. They started badly last season but made some real strides in the 2nd half of the season and are very close to it all falling into place. The fact Coquelin looked so good in that team for the 2nd half of the season makes me think that a better player in that role is going to look like a world beater.

Godge · 23-06-2015 05:38PM

ERG89 wrote: »

More important question would be why would he go to Arsenal?
He's at a team looking to build and already challenge for major trophies

Look at the other options in the Premier League.

Liverpool and Spurs: Just not good enough for a player of Vidal's class
Chelsea: Matic and Fabregas
Man City: Toure, Fernando, Fernandinho.
Man Utd: A possibility, but they are rebuilding, can they challenge next season?

For Vidal, Arsenal could well rank ahead of all the others. Second this season with players like Sanchez and Ozil to play ahead of him, Coquelin for competition.

Tomagotchye · 23-06-2015 05:41PM

Lot of goalies getting signed this summer.

Turtwig · 23-06-2015 06:14PM

If Arsenal had a busquets quality player they'd be genuine contenders. They're that close. With Coquelin they're pretty close too. They just don't have adequate cover should he get injured.

Vidal they don't actually need. Though himself and Sanchez work rather well. They need a Keane type DM or a Busquets type one. Either will do. Then a decent striker. I don't Giroud is at a high enough level.

All that said, Vidal would still strengthen Arsenal. Just not where they really need strengthening. A bit like Real Madrid selling Alonso and buying kroos and James.

ERG89 · 23-06-2015 06:18PM

Godge wrote: »

Look at the other options in the Premier League.

Liverpool and Spurs: Just not good enough for a player of Vidal's class
Chelsea: Matic and Fabregas
Man City: Toure, Fernando, Fernandinho.
Man Utd: A possibility, but they are rebuilding, can they challenge next season?

For Vidal, Arsenal could well rank ahead of all the others. Second this season with players like Sanchez and Ozil to play ahead of him, Coquelin for competition.

Well he's better than those 3 at City tbh.
There are other teams outside of the PL too obviously.

ben.schlomo · 23-06-2015 06:28PM

ERG89 wrote: »

Well he's better than those 3 at City tbh.
There are other teams outside of the PL too obviously.

Hes not better than Yaya, and he most definitely isnt a better DM than either of the other two, hes an attacking midfielder afterall.

Corholio · 23-06-2015 06:42PM

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Hes not better than Yaya, and he most definitely isnt a better DM than either of the other two, hes an attacking midfielder afterall.

He offers far more over 90 minutes than Yaya and won't need to be protected as much either as he'll get around the midfield far more.

brianregan09 · 23-06-2015 06:43PM

He's neither a defensive or attacking midfielder he's more of Box to box in the mould of vieira similar temper too

ERG89 · 23-06-2015 07:04PM

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Hes not better than Yaya, and he most definitely isnt a better DM than either of the other two, hes an attacking midfielder afterall.

Yaya Toure 2 years ago I assume your on about?
Cause he was poor last season & at 32 isn't going to get better

cson · 23-06-2015 07:06PM

ERG89 wrote: »

yeah I do think Juve have a better chance of winning the Champions League and he could do better than Arsenal if he wanted to leave Juve.

(a) Name the clubs

(b) Following on from (a); name who he'd displace in the starting line up. In his natural position of course. Lets not shoehorn him into DM, LW or GK.

I'm genuinely interested to see what you come up with.

ERG89 · 23-06-2015 07:15PM

cson wrote: »

(a) Name the clubs

(b) Following on from (a); name who he'd displace in the starting line up. In his natural position of course. Lets not shoehorn him into DM, LW or GK.

I'm genuinely interested to see what you come up with.

Real Madrid he could get game time in a midfield 3.
Bayern he could get games too ahead of Alonso & if they move Lahm back the pitch.
Chelsea could replace Oscar with him & it wouldn't be a bad move. Works hard too & is an upgrade on Ramires shoehorned in that role.
He'd get in City's team too but they might make a lot of changes & I'm sure won't go two up top all the time next season.
PSG he'd get put in the XI ahead of Motta & put Verratti in a holding role behind Matuidi.
I can't name these as facts as (a)I don't manage or work for these teams & (b) I don't know if they'd sign him but (c) I know Juve are better right now than Arsenal

Pro. F · 23-06-2015 07:19PM

Vidal is a class DM when he plays there. People don't give that side of his game nearly enough credit.

Rayne Wooney · 23-06-2015 07:26PM

cson wrote: »

(a) Name the clubs

(b) Following on from (a); name who he'd displace in the starting line up. In his natural position of course. Lets not shoehorn him into DM, LW or GK.

I'm genuinely interested to see what you come up with.

He would walk into Madrids team easily, he doesn't get the praise because he still plays for Juve but I think he will be moving on soon enough

Giggsy11 · 23-06-2015 07:48PM

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ/status/613418103750414342

CSF · 23-06-2015 09:38PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ/status/613418103750414342

Chelsea are doing well there for an ageing player they don't need.

Arsenal are also doing well there getting a player who will be able to perform to a very high level for them for a few years. Those players can be hard to come by.

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