Big Brother UK 2015 **Use spoiler tags, mod warning post #1 & 3037**

Every year without fail midway through the show, at least two camps develop with some floaters in the middle picked off one by one. There is a total tribe mentality "us and them" and if you dare behave as an individual you are more than likely fecked. Then every year as we get closer to the end we have tiptoe where people try their best not to rock the boats. I would be interested to see how the dynamic would change in the next few weeks if marc was removed from the house.

This bull**** of having to give a reason for nominating someone is BB's way of causing even more conflict in the house,thought Joel let himself down and was a bit of a bollox for not accepting the nomination for what it was, rather than picking at the reasons.
Simon or Sam will probably be gone at the weekend.
Am I the only one who thinks Sam is beautiful and sexy,personality aside.

housetypeb wrote: »

This bull**** of having to give a reason for nominating someone is BB's way of causing even more conflict in the house,thought Joel let himself down and was a bit of a bollox for not accepting the nomination for what it was, rather than picking at the reasons.
Simon or Sam will probably be gone at the weekend.
Am I the only one who thinks Sam is beautiful and sexy,personality aside.

Good point about the reasons, and probably why we haven't had many normal nominations ie; done in secret. It adds the extra tension CH5 seem to want.
I tend to disagree on Joel's reaction to the nomination though, it was very hypocritical of Jack to give a bull**** reason after having a go at Showbiz for his nomination. He was grumbling about giving an actual reason and not a bull**** one.

Marc has peaked and has faded since he went into the bunker. His original gameplan of go in, wreck the place and get out after two weeks would have worked better. He is showing himself up. And I actually like him. But going around telling everyone he is a scientist is just cringey. I can't believe no one has called him out on it. I still hopes once the timewarps go that he can pick it up.

United Chester Men wrote: »

What moving on did I do!! Danny has featured barely yet you have built up an irrational extreme dislike of him! I dont like Mark at all and I have given rational reasons! I don't like or dislike Danny, I just think he is a normal, nice, albit fame hungry (like 90% of them in there) London lad who has broke down a few times and has a similar dislike of Marks antics. Yes he is gameplaying and yes he has rallied the troops a bit against the influence of the toxic behaviour of Helen and Mark but that hardly makes him the sort of person you have painted him out to be. But that is your perogative.

I don't have to answer any questions you put to me, although the amount of replies I have given you with reasonable and explained theory behind them, you cannot say I am brushing over aspects.

I will answer what you have asked to the best of my ability. It is just my opinion so please target the opinion not the poster. I have seen my name been used in posts that arent anything to do with my posts so if you have an issue with my opinions, not necessarily you of course, reply to the post dont try and ridicule what is essentially an avatar username!!
This is getting far too heated to be honest and it isn't fun anymore. I said I dont like Mark or Helen. You said you do like them but you hate Danny. I said I think Danny is sound enough, from what I hae seen. We debated it. Neither of us changed our minds. Alls fair enough!!

I fully explained why Mark alligned himself to others. To put it siply Simon and Sam are like his sheep, Helen is like is equal and Joel he knows is both popular but more importantly an emotional and intellectual force that he, admitted would be the only person he would lose to in a verbal battle. Joel is also very likeable and seems to be able to neutralise himself and be his own person but I dont think he has specifically alligned himself to Mark. He is his own person. I am not sure why you said Eileen as he would have barely got to kno her as she was only in there a few days when Mark was at his hyper worst. I cant even recall them in a personal dialogue together. In fact when she was in there there was no divide.

Jack, Chloe and Christian are weak in their own ways, yes and they did rely on a bit of a pep talk to show a bit of unity against any of Mark's antics etc. If I was Christian I would have chosen sam also. She adds nothing to the house and hasn't a mind of her own in making decisions or taking responsibility for them. I also never seen them interacting really so maybe he doesn't like her. She has also let herself down being Marks apologist for weeks just because he gave her a bit of attention. She is only figuring out now that he doesnt really give too much cr*p about her.

Mark's targets are weak housemates who challenge him, not specifically weak characters because they are weak. Again I have explained what I mean by this so that should answer your question. I would say Simon is the last person Mark would acknowledge outside the house in my opinion but he is not going to isolate himself and knows he needs support in the house. Sam and Simon are easy lapdogs for that and he tried to use their "friendship" to get them to vote for who he thought they should vote for.


I haven't noticed every Friday where people sit. Can you explain that to me. I often noticed friends sitting beside other friends like Chloe/Harriet No 1, NicK/Harri No. 2, Brian/Jade etc. But perhaps there is some sort of pattern you have noticed.


Anyway listen, lets leave it at this. The fact that you like Helen and think she is a good judge of character kind of establishes the fact that we are polar opposites in opinion! So we wont agree on a lot so lets just acknowledge eachothers posts but accept we dont agree. Fair. We are just going around in circles tbh!!

Apologies folks but its back to the essays:

I find it amusing that you label my opinion as "irrational" yet have openly admitted that 4/5 people have joined the thread or setup Boards accounts to reply to your posts. Is that the action of people who think your writings are rational? Yes, Danny has barely featured but he's been in there 42 days now, six weeks. That's three weeks more than Marc and some other housemates. My own dislike of him began the evening he felt he had the right to shout at people that they couldn't come into the house like he was the landlord. He's been watching too many Eastenders episodes. Until then, he was doing a good job of hiding his true self. As I've said though, Marc and Helen have now dragged it out and over the past two weeks or so, we're seeing the real side of him. Not the "nice guy" image, as painted by him on his Starnow profile before he even went into the house. Like Chloe is at pains to try and be the "normal girl", he's trying his best to be the "nice guy". They are trying to play roles that they feel will bring them success in the house and after it.

Some of the points you've missed/conviently ignored - trying to say Helen likes Danny after an episode where she tried to encourage Sam to nominate him and said Joel and Marc are the only genuine HMs. You call Marc manipulative yet have ignored that Danny's sheep constantly seek his approval and that he has coached them on tactics. You tried to state that Danny was joking with the new HMS when he shouted "just ****ing try and come in here". He wasn't joking, he was trying to be the hard man.

Even reading the thread last night. Whatever Marc/Helen do is painted as bad/horrible/bullying. Yet you stick up for the clique at every available opportunity, even defending dimwits like Chloe and Pieface. You had a problem with Marc/Helen standing behind Joel's back and it was labelled as "cringey". I didn't see you say the same when Pieface went to seek Danny's approval before he had even been nominated himself. He was that worried about assuring the allegiance of his Fuhrer that he discussed who he'd nominate in advance of even knowing he'd have to. Why wouldn't Marc/Helen stand at Joel's back by the way? Joel had just been basically told he was being nominated because he hadn't fallen in line with the clique. It was the perfect opportunity for Marc/Helen to try and recruit him. Christian was also sitting there ensuring he had Pieface's back but you didn't see that as "cringey". Marc also has more reason than anyone to back up Joel after his mother thanked him for looking after him. Joel himself has to realise that was his mother's way of telling him that he was going down the right path staying out of the clique.

In regard to Marc and Eileen. Marc was in there a full week according to Wiki, from day 18 to day 25, before Eileen was evicted. I also remember him complaining to Simon and Sam I think it was that they had chosen the easy target when she was nominated. I remember them being quite close and she had this to say when evicted:
http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb16/news/0605/who-was-evicted-from-big-brother-2015-eileen-daly-seventh-out

Eileen also delivered her verdicts on the other new housemates – praising Marc, who has spent much of his first week winding the group up. “I like his honesty. He doesn’t stab you in the back, he shoots you in the face,” she smirked. “I’ve known a few Marcs in my life, they usually turn out to be good eggs. I know he’s gobby, but he says it from the hip.

Re Sam and Simon being sheep. If they are sheep, Marc isn't doing very well as neither took much notice when he tried to influence them. Compare that now to Danny and how Chloe, Christian and Pieface seek his approval. You also referred yesterday evening to "Marc and his lapdogs". How are they "lapdogs"? He tried to influence them, when he realised he needed to as the clique were picking off his friends, and they didn't take any notice. Again, compare that to the clique with Danny.

Your last paragraph is a nice attempt at a cheap shot. Helen Wood is hated and I apparently agree and "like her" so you're trying to run down my opinion. I've never once said I like Helen or Marc. In fact, I said from the moment he went in, I didn't like Marc. That said, I watch this TV show to be entertained and I can think of Marc providing more entertainment in one day than I can the clique in six weeks. For that reason, he deserves to go further than the others. I also believe he hasn't tried to hide himself and his personality, like Danny, Christian and Chloe clearly are. That said, last night was a boring episode for him and I hope he goes back to himself after things have died down like he said to Joel the other evening he would.

Re Helen, I wouldn't say I like her. I didn't watch last year and don't read tabloids so know very little about her. Based on the episodes I have seen her in, I would see her as a good judge of character in the house given the opinions she has offered. I also admire her when it comes to arguments, while not always agreeing with her view. Others can foam at the mouth, throw pizza boxes, jump around and lose the head, but she sits there and doesn't move. It doesn't matter what they say, she keeps her cool. I actually find it interesting that you tried to say she doesn't remain calm. Yes, she raises her voice but that's it. Compare it to the actions of the others like Marc, Danny or Brian in an argument. She for me is coolness personified in a heated exchange and I'd love to have her temperament.

duffman13 wrote: »

I was under this impression too, but apparently he just has a bachelor of science and shouldnt be referring to himself as scientist. Marc is a fairly intelligent guy, can't see why or how people would call him out. He's a lot more consistent than Jade's modelling career.

Also I haven't heard Marc mention the scientist thing since the challenge in the second week he was in. Maybe I missed it but don't think he harps on about it, I've actually heard him talk more about being a stripper than a scientist.

You are looking way too deep into things.

Chris_Bradley wrote: »

Biglad going mad at Showbiz for voting him over a half decent reason, then giving Joel a pathetic reason for nomination was pure hypocritical wasn't it?

100% yes