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CK73 · 18-06-2015 09:57AM

United Chester Men wrote: »

Jade knows Brian will be gone in a couple of days so this 2 day "romance" suits her to the bones. Seems so forced!

I'm not sure what Jade's motives are, but Brian lives by 'instinct' and being a guy, sees a girl he fancies and goes for it. I don't think he thinks past the moment in the first instance.

Jade? She is more calculating, so it's hard to say at this point.

tipptom · 18-06-2015 10:24AM

MadDog76 wrote: »

Joel is most likely, at this stage, to win ..........

I have to say I like Marc just as he is .......... I'm not sure if I like that I like Marc ....... but I do.

I find Helen amazingly brutally honest, she astounds me at times ........ but I reckon I'd cut her tongue out if forced to be in a room with her for more than a day.

I've little or no time for Jack .......... hero to zero in record time.

Chloe is grand ......... but I don't buy the whole "I'm just a normal girl unlike the rest of you attention seekers" attitude .......... it takes a certain kind of person to apply to be on a Reality TV programme and Chloe is one of those people at the end of the day.

I've had an about-turn regarding Jade ........ I couldn't stand her at first but I've warmed to her .......... zero to hero in her case for me.

Harri .......... what pressure has she been under that nobody else in the house has had to go through exactly?

Exactly,cant understand this because when showbiz was getting picked on by everyone in the house there was zero sympathy for him particularly from the ones now whinging about being picked on now.
.All because he nominated that bag Eileen and they were all saying he was two faced(even though he had just came in) but that's what you have to do in nominations.
Most are nominated by HMs and then they come out and pretend to be great friends with who they nom afterwards.

Were all guilty of being two faced everyday be it about what people are wearing,their age,how they look,how they talk etc etc,and in the house its ratcheted up a bit more and you are forced to show it to the HMs and the public to shame you and create conflict,its a game!

Gizmo55 · 18-06-2015 10:38AM

What's up with people taking a nomination so badly? Never used to be like that.

tipptom · 18-06-2015 10:49AM

Gizmo55 wrote: »

What's up with people taking a nomination so badly? Never used to be like that.

You would wonder about that.
You would like to think that they would have thought about this before they went in and said to themselves that no matter what happens I will accept it gracefully even if it is through gritted teeth because there is no capital to be got out of arguing on the spot about it as it makes them look spoilt and petulant and idiotic about what they thought they were getting in to.

That's where I think Marc let himself down badly,went in to play the baddie,had to know that would get him nominated and then got pissy about it.
It would have played better for him if he had of went up and hugged them and said,"Im an annoying fu*ker and I don't blame you"and laughed about it.

Leads me to believe that he is not as smart and mentally strong as he likes to think he is.

Necro · 18-06-2015 11:01AM

tipptom wrote:

That's where I think Marc let himself down badly,went in to play the baddie,had to know that would get him nominated and then got pissy about it. It would have played better for him if he had of went up and hugged them and said,"Im an annoying fu*ker and I don't blame you"and laughed about it.

I actually don't agree with that at all. I thought last week's nominees for the fake eviction took it fairly well. Marc put on a front, granted that he didn't mind leaving but that broke quickly when he realised about the fake boos. The others can't take any criticism their way at all and it's getting to be a bit predictable that someone will kick off when they're put up.
I'd like to see a couple of weeks of normal style nominations where no one knows who nominates who. Might calm things down a little!

CK73 · 18-06-2015 11:05AM

tipptom wrote: »

Exactly,cant understand this because when showbiz was getting picked on by everyone in the house there was zero sympathy for him particularly from the ones now whinging about being picked on now.
.All because he nominated that bag Eileen and they were all saying he was two faced(even though he had just came in) but that's what you have to do in nominations.
Most are nominated by HMs and then they come out and pretend to be great friends with who they nom afterwards.

Were all guilty of being two faced everyday be it about what people are wearing,their age,how they look,how they talk etc etc,and in the house its ratcheted up a bit more and you are forced to show it to the HMs and the public to shame you and create conflict,its a game!

Simon was being two faced and backstabbing. Big brother exposed him and left him to take the onslaught. Then we got the fake tears to exacerbate the situation and further reduce the sympathy levels.

Where as Harri, I'm still at a loss as to what exactly she has done other than form a tactile friendship with Nick and flash her bits.

She has put clothes on to respect the wishes of the other hm's and is still getting it in the neck. She has been accused of using and possibly losiing the only person in the house that she actually feels comfortable with and Nick is such a wavering idiot, he doesn't trust his own instincts at all, which makes him easily led.

Nick would make an amazing sheep.

Missymoohaa · 18-06-2015 11:28AM

I don't think some of them get that this is an Entertainment show first and foremost. Christian says he doesn't need to be entertaining, hellooooo!! you idiot, cop on. He really has to go.

Of all the housemates the most entertaining is Mark in all fairness, whether you love him or hate him.

Though of the 3 time warp housemates, Nikki is by far the most entertaining, I laughed out loud yesterday when she said "I would do the washing up, but I'm a guest here for the week, so there's no point"

:D

tipptom · 18-06-2015 11:43AM

CK73 wrote: »

Simon was being two faced and backstabbing. Big brother exposed him and left him to take the onslaught. Then we got the fake tears to exacerbate the situation and further reduce the sympathy levels.

Where as Harri, I'm still at a loss as to what exactly she has done other than form a tactile friendship with Nick and flash her bits.

She has put clothes on to respect the wishes of the other hm's and is still getting it in the neck. She has been accused of using and possibly losiing the only person in the house that she actually feels comfortable with and Nick is such a wavering idiot, he doesn't trust his own instincts at all, which makes him easily led.

Nick would make an amazing sheep.

I don't think he was backstabbing at all,he thought she was nice for her age but he put her up for nomination because he said she was older,she has done a lot and he had to put someone up just after going in.
He was then bullied by all the whingers now who then ganged up on him to say he shouldn't have,his and Sams choice,they are all backstabbers and would drive over their mother for a bite of a celebrity lifestyle.

Harri is a cold calculating manipulative creature who tried to ingratiate herself from day one with the older HMs to make herself popular and was one of the biggest bullies against Simon.
She has nothing to offer except her through her own admittance only to flash her t*ts and kebab and manipulate Nick for her own ends.

Her moany Janet Street Porter voice makes me cringe and her looks that she trades on are dirty looking and low rent.
If your idea of an entertaing HM is flashing herself and nothing else,grand,(each to their own),and I think she gets back to that again tonight,but not mine.

CK73 · 18-06-2015 11:44AM

Missymoohaa wrote: »

I don't think some of them get that this is an Entertainment show first and foremost. Christian says he doesn't need to be entertaining, hellooooo!! you idiot, cop on. He really has to go.

Of all the housemates the most entertaining is Mark in all fairness, whether you love him or hate him.

Though of the 3 time warp housemates, Nikki is by far the most entertaining, I laughed out loud yesterday when she said "I would do the washing up, but I'm a guest here for the week, so there's no point" :D

When did the dynamics change where it became all about entertainment? If you look at victors of the past, it hasn't been the most entertaining that has always won. In many cases it's been the one that people liked the most, as in they had a good heart, they were fun, but also people you genuinely liked and wanted to win.

Of course we want to enjoy watching them, but it's not just about entertainment and I don't think the emphasis should be put there either. In fact it is foolish for anyone who does think they will win that way, as they might get to 2nd place, but they won't get the prize.

CK73 · 18-06-2015 11:47AM

tipptom wrote: »

I don't think he was backstabbing at all,he thought she was nice for her age but he put her up for nomination because he said she was older,she has done a lot and he had to put someone up just after going in.
He was then bullied by all the whingers now who then ganged up on him to say he shouldn't have,his and Sams choice,they are all backstabbers and would drive over their mother for a bite of a celebrity lifestyle.

Harri is a cold calculating manipulative creature who tried to ingratiate herself from day one with the older HMs to make herself popular and was one of the biggest bullies against Simon.
She has nothing to offer except her through her own admittance only to flash her t*ts and kebab and manipulate Nick for her own ends.

Her moany Janet Street Porter voice makes me cringe and her looks that she trades on are dirty looking and low rent.
If your idea of an entertaing HM is flashing herself and nothing else,grand,(each to their own),and I think she gets back to that again tonight,but not mine.

Are we watching the same programme? His theory is flawed, as by the same theory he should be next to go, as he is a lot older than the rest of the guys in there.

Harri was ignored by all bar one of the new house mates when they entered. Brian was the only one to acknowledge her. I don't know about you, but if that was me, I would want to talk to them and find out what their problem is and let them see the real me and not the one through Marc's eyes.

Perception is a wonderful things isn't it. We go through like trusting our perception and yet it can differ so widely from one person to another.

CK73 · 18-06-2015 11:49AM

Der Baum wrote: »

She offered to do everyone's washing and then wouldn't do Simon's washing when he asked her. She's a kunt.

lol from what I saw he asked before she offered and she then decided to offer to the others because she was going to do his washing. I think she was more dumb founded that a person of his mature years was alleging not to know how to do it. I think that is fair comment.

tipptom · 18-06-2015 11:51AM

Necrominus wrote: »

I actually don't agree with that at all. I thought last week's nominees for the fake eviction took it fairly well. Marc put on a front, granted that he didn't mind leaving but that broke quickly when he realised about the fake boos. The others can't take any criticism their way at all and it's getting to be a bit predictable that someone will kick off when they're put up.
I'd like to see a couple of weeks of normal style nominations where no one knows who nominates who. Might calm things down a little!

Must look back on it again but I thought Marc was chasing around after people who nominated him telling them how disappointed he was and he was giving out on the setees as well,remember thinking to myself that he was letting himself down by doing this.

Missymoohaa · 18-06-2015 11:55AM

CK73 wrote: »

When did the dynamics change where it became all about entertainment? If you look at victors of the past, it hasn't been the most entertaining that has always won. In many cases it's been the one that people liked the most, as in they had a good heart, they were fun, but also people you genuinely liked and wanted to win.

Of course we want to enjoy watching them, but it's not just about entertainment and I don't think the emphasis should be put there either. In fact it is foolish for anyone who does think they will win that way, as they might get to 2nd place, but they won't get the prize.

I take what you're saying CK but what I really meant is that you can't just go into the house and sit there, say nothing, give no opinion, it just won't cut it. Entertaining doesn't necessarily mean being a c u next tuesday either. It means someone you like watching and listening too. The nice guys can be very entertaining too.

Take Brian Dowling, he was a super nice guy but hugely entertaining and Josie was a nice girl but entertaining too.

Ha lucky I re read your post, I thought you were referring to "Victor" as in Victor from BB5, you could call him alot of things but sweet and nice ain't one of them:D

tipptom · 18-06-2015 12:03PM

CK73 wrote: »

Are we watching the same programme? His theory is flawed, as by the same theory he should be next to go, as he is a lot older than the rest of the guys in there.

Harri was ignored by all bar one of the new house mates when they entered. Brian was the only one to acknowledge her. I don't know about you, but if that was me, I would want to talk to them and find out what their problem is and let them see the real me and not the one through Marc's eyes.

Perception is a wonderful things isn't it. We go through like trusting our perception and yet it can differ so widely from one person to another.

His theory may be flawed but he had to make a decision within a very short time of coming in the house and maybe he should be the next to go as he isn't giving much to the house now and that might be exhaustion through age or being cowed down by all the bullies then who are whinging about being picked on now.

I meant earlier on in the show about Harri when she had entered the house was when she decided to try and ingratiate herself with the older HMs in their bullying of Simon.
This time she decide to calculate that she would play the victim and not even try and introduce herself to the new ones even though the other Hms that were slagged of did make the effort to introduce themselves.
Her little game has worked to an extent.

United Chester Men · 18-06-2015 12:12PM

Der Baum wrote: »

She offered to do everyone's washing and then wouldn't do Simon's washing when he asked her. She's a kunt.

ha! i hope this is a wind up! otherwise you really missed the fact that this is completely not what happened!!

CK73 · 18-06-2015 12:31PM

tipptom wrote: »

Must look back on it again but I thought Marc was chasing around after people who nominated him telling them how disappointed he was and he was giving out on the setees as well,remember thinking to myself that he was letting himself down by doing this.

You're right. He told Sam that he was disappointed in her after listening to her nomination of him. He wagged his finger good and proper.

Necro · 18-06-2015 12:49PM

CK73 wrote:

You're right. He told Sam that he was disappointed in her after listening to her nomination of him. He wagged his finger good and proper.

He said he was disappointed in her after he came back into the house and she had been bad mouthing him for two days straight in an effort to cosy up to the older housemates (similar to her love-fest with Helen this week, horrible thing that she (Sam) is). Completely different from complaining about nominations.

Jon Stark · 18-06-2015 12:53PM

Gizmo55 wrote: »

What's up with people taking a nomination so badly? Never used to be like that.

In Chloe's defence, I don't think it was the nomination that bothered her but Marc's tirade when nominating her. Telling someone that they're boring as fcuk in such an aggressive manner will unsettle most people, never mind being told in a room full of people and who knows how many watching at home.

Marc is also some chap for going on about people not being able to handle being nominated when he's spent his time since returning ranting and raving at people he feels "stabbed him in the back."

Necro · 18-06-2015 01:02PM

Jon Stark wrote:

Marc is also some chap for going on about people not being able to handle being nominated when he's spent his time since returning ranting and raving at people he feels "stabbed him in the back."

Ah it's a little different to be fair though. A few people openly rejoiced that he had left the house, Jacks toast with orange juice being the particular moment that sticks out.
Nominations have been, and always will be a part of the game in the house and the overreaction from the house mates this year is borderline ridiculous.

deco nate · 18-06-2015 01:06PM

Ok people, bare with me..

So we know jade gets nominated tonight, so it's too late to do phone voting.
This can only mean 1of 2 things......

1. The leg ends;) get to pick who goes, which I think(hope) they pick Chris.
(because they said they have to break the housemates up, and that he did nothing in the house) Or

2. The remaining housemates get to pick, which I think will pick harri.
Because they said the other night they have to stick together.
OR

C.

the leg ends

have to pick one, and the housemates have to pick one, in which case... See above.
(don't think c will happen because we are only half way through the show)

What do you think will happen?

Necro · 18-06-2015 01:14PM

Is it too late though? 24 hours would probably be enough for a phone vote but I guess that will be revealed tonight. I like your idea but as they did with Simon technically not evicted by the public it could give grounds for a 'shock' return later in the show.
I hope they don't go down that road and just have a normal eviction, something we haven't had since Eileen which is two weeks ago now. Then next week go back to normal nominations where I expect Marc, Simon and Sam to be up.

deco nate · 18-06-2015 01:23PM

Yea I think it's too late for phone voting, phone lines usually open Tuesday.
I think this week it's gonna be another 'time bomb' shocker!

tipptom · 18-06-2015 01:27PM

Jon Stark wrote: »

In Chloe's defence, I don't think it was the nomination that bothered her but Marc's tirade when nominating her. Telling someone that they're boring as fcuk in such an aggressive manner will unsettle most people, never mind being told in a room full of people and who knows how many watching at home.

Marc is also some chap for going on about people not being able to handle being nominated when he's spent his time since returning ranting and raving at people he feels "stabbed him in the back."

But wasn't that what he was sent out to do?

tipptom · 18-06-2015 01:34PM

Necrominus wrote: »

He said he was disappointed in her after he came back into the house and she had been bad mouthing him for two days straight in an effort to cosy up to the older housemates (similar to her love-fest with Helen this week, horrible thing that she (Sam) is). Completely different from complaining about nominations.

It was at the nominations that I was saying that he should have taken them better,he went around bitching at some of them who nominated him and correct me if im wrong but I think it all really kicked of with himself and Harri in the garden after she said what she said about him in nominations.

Robsweezie · 18-06-2015 01:42PM

can we just have normal nominations back next week? too much deviation from the normal format lately. simon picking Eileen and her getting voted out purely because one person picked her and not through a majority nomination, and being up against popular joel, also picked by simon if I remember correctly, or marc I think.

and in the quadruple eviction week they switched up the nominations so amy and sally etc. were ****ed out even though they weren't technically 'up'. an ok twist I guess.

and now these time warp HMs are nominating people left right and centre and one will be gone on a technicality.

I hate one or two people having sole power over who gets put up.

Necro · 18-06-2015 01:44PM

tipptom wrote:

It was at the nominations that I was saying that he should have taken them better,he went around bitching at some of them who nominated him and correct me if im wrong but I think it all really kicked of with himself and Harri in the garden after she said what she said about him in nominations.

I don't remember him being particularly phased about being up but maybe it was just my interpretation. The wishing well task was a factor in his feud with Harry alright but the supposed 'victim' had no problem confronting him at that point!
I think the whole Marc/Harry issue began with the fraternity task - don't think they showed the argument on main show but on BOTS it showed them having a huge row over her not participating properly in the task.

MadDog76 · 18-06-2015 01:51PM

CK73 wrote: »

Simon was being two faced and backstabbing. Big brother exposed him and left him to take the onslaught. Then we got the fake tears to exacerbate the situation and further reduce the sympathy levels.

Where as Harri, I'm still at a loss as to what exactly she has done other than form a tactile friendship with Nick and flash her bits.

She has put clothes on to respect the wishes of the other hm's and is still getting it in the neck. She has been accused of using and possibly losiing the only person in the house that she actually feels comfortable with and Nick is such a wavering idiot, he doesn't trust his own instincts at all, which makes him easily led.

Nick would make an amazing sheep.

Getting it in the neck how?

I don't see anybody (even Marc) bullying her in any way ........ she doesn't like Marc and he doesn't like her so they don't speak ......... he handles the situation by getting on with things whereas she decides to go to bed but that's nobody's fault and/or problem but her own.

The way some posters talk about her on here you'd swear she was being whipped daily by all of the HM's before being tied to a radiator for the night ....... she needs to get over herself.

messrs · 18-06-2015 01:56PM

deco nate wrote: »

Ok people, bare with me..

So we know jade gets nominated tonight, so it's too late to do phone voting.
This can only mean 1of 2 things......

1. The leg ends;) get to pick who goes, which I think(hope) they pick Chris.
(because they said they have to break the housemates up, and that he did nothing in the house) Or

2. The remaining housemates get to pick, which I think will pick harri.
Because they said the other night they have to stick together.
OR

C. the leg ends have to pick one, and the housemates have to pick one, in which case... See above.
(don't think c will happen because we are only half way through the show)

What do you think will happen?

ooh I like your theory, id like the idea of the remaining housemates having to pick from the 4 that are up. 24 hours may be enough for the public to vote though - or maybe remaining housemates will have to pick 2 from the 4 to face the public vote

Kolido · 18-06-2015 02:21PM

deco nate wrote: »

Ok people, bare with me..

So we know jade gets nominated tonight, so it's too late to do phone voting.
This can only mean 1of 2 things......

1. The leg ends;) get to pick who goes, which I think(hope) they pick Chris.
(because they said they have to break the housemates up, and that he did nothing in the house) Or

2. The remaining housemates get to pick, which I think will pick harri.
Because they said the other night they have to stick together.
OR

C. the leg ends have to pick one, and the housemates have to pick one, in which case... See above.
(don't think c will happen because we are only half way through the show)

What do you think will happen?

Im not so sure if either of these are fair. Has it ever happened before, I always thought the public choose who gets evicted no matter what way nominations take place within the house.

United Chester Men · 18-06-2015 03:02PM

Necrominus wrote: »

Ah it's a little different to be fair though. A few people openly rejoiced that he had left the house, Jacks toast with orange juice being the particular moment that sticks out.
Nominations have been, and always will be a part of the game in the house and the overreaction from the house mates this year is borderline ridiculous.

Surely he knew this was inevitable!! If he didn't know that people would be extremely glad to see the back of him after the atmosphere he created in the house he is extremely naive and stupid. He said as much himself. People are blowing Jacks toast completely out of proportion, Jack let Mark know a few times before he left that he was going overboard in his antics. He didn't confront him extremely aggressively as he knew there was no point, Mark would have him for dinner (albeit a very big dinner!). That isn't spineless, that is playing savvy. Mark wouldnt have listened to him and then would just shout insults and ostracise him, much like he did to Harri when she really stood up to him.

His toast was just a friendly toast and he was toasting the better atmosphere which was clearly evident.

However, he did stand up to him last night and now Mark has him in his sights. The insults have began "fat pig", etc and he has started talking to people about jack behind his back. I can see in a few days Jack being the new Harri (maybe even with the boobs out!).

But seriously Jack can't win either way with some people.

He has temper issues, but he seems a loyal person and he is well liked in the house. he doesnt deserve to win but he dioesnt deserve the abuse he has been the recipiennt of from social media, much of which is directed at his weight. His edit has been fairly unflathering and you have to think that BB producers don't want someone like Jack winning, hence the edit which has turned the audience completely against him.

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