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International cricket thread

  • 22-04-2015 6:04pm
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    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I thought it might be an idea to have a general thread for international cricket series that don't have the interest to deserve threads of their own.

    Bangladesh have just hammered Pakistan three times in a row, 79 runs, 7 wickets and now by 8 wickets.

    Nice to see Bangladesh continuing their World Cup form


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  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Cricket fan


    Think we're seeing Bangladesh finally emerge as a consistent and good ODI team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Pakistan are absolutely awful as an ODI team.

    Gul finished
    Ajmal finished
    Hafeez in decline, not that he ever was that great
    Junaid never fit and speed totally down and can't swing it anymore
    Fawad seems to have brutally worked out
    Harris never converts his stats
    Irfan always injured
    Maqsood injured nearly as frequently as Irfan
    Misbah, Afridi retired
    Shezhad and Umar dropped because for discipline reasons
    ****e fielding
    Nasim nothing special, a spin bully if a trier.
    No pace all rounder bar Azam who is always injured and untested
    Where do you bat Safaraz? Not great at opening v pace.


    Could be a very tough few months for them unless they find a few stars from somewhere.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    It'll be interesting to see how they do against Sri Lanka who might also be in a dodgy state after those retirements


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    It'll be interesting to see how they do against Sri Lanka who might also be in a dodgy state after those retirements

    They desperately want and need Amir back, the current bowlers are either brittle or brittle bar Riaz who can be very inconsistent.

    Its a long time away, but imagine if Pakistan had to qualify for the world cup with the associates, the TV companies and the ICC would have a fit if they were to miss out on an India v Pakistan World Cup match. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ireland/engine/match/858491.html

    Pakistan were trashed in the t20. I watched some of it in the background, one of the all time worst t20 innings from Shezhad. :eek:

    Their A team got trashed today as well, quite a few big hopes in that team.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/Ireland/engine/match/860397.html


    They really need the test team to do something next week, think we could be seeing some very few lean years for Pakistan.

    No wonder why they can't wait for Amir to come back. :eek:


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    7 wickets and 22 balls remaining, it's amazing just how uncompetitive Pakistan are, imagine Bangladesh doing a full tour sweep :O


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    7 wickets and 22 balls remaining, it's amazing just how uncompetitive Pakistan are, imagine Bangladesh doing a full tour sweep :O

    Rain is supposed to come in the tests luckily for them.:p

    To be fair a middle order of Ali/Younis/Misbah/Shafiq/Sarfraz is pretty strong in that format if a road.

    However I'd be worried about Ajmal if he plays tests, he looked very poor in the ODI stuff and if he has to bowl a long period, quite possible his action could fall apart. I know others were very suspicious after one of the games.

    If he gets called again, he is done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Cricket fan


    Pakistan fall to #9 on ICC ODI rankings. Bangladesh up to #8.

    WI, Ban and Pak separated by 1 point!

    If the ICC had sense they'd organise a tri series between the 3 in a neutral venue to see who gets into the Champions Trophy.

    Ireland move up to #10, Zimbabwe fall to #11.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Interesting test in the end, but I wouldn't have fancied watching it, some big scores scorecard


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Cricket fan


    Nothing I hate more than a massive run fest test that ends in a draw


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Yeah its a disgrace tbh. Test cricket has a fanbase that is dwindling sadly and they serve up a road like that? :(


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Good start for Pakistan today, 323/3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    I hope there is a serious investigation into this with the ICC involved, shocking stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I hope there is a serious investigation into this with the ICC involved, shocking stuff

    Agreed, they can't turn a blind eye to this and yeah whoever is responsible needs to be named and shamed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    http://www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-australia-2015/engine/match/810423.html

    Gun test debut for Voges against the West Indies, turning and gets an awesome century, will have to do something awful not to play the Ashes now.

    Hazlewood outbowled Starc first innings, its a fight between those two to play alongside Mitch and Harris for The Ashes.

    West Indies look doomed already, its a team with potential, but not much experience, against a quality side like Australia, they are doomed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Australia have decisions to make. They couldn't fit both Starc and Hazelwood in I suppose?

    Shame Voges isn't ten years younger but he has to play now. What a debut?

    Is the younger Marsh that bowls fit? He should be in Watson's place surely.

    Australia look good to retain the Ashes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    You'd have to drop Lyon, Harris or Mitch, so its one or the other when it comes to Hazlewood or Starc. I'd go with Hazlewood, think he is a better test bowler at this stage and has done nothing to warrant getting dropped. Starc still bowls to many four balls.

    Watson will get the Ashes due to his experience in England, although you do think he may be told to focus solely on limited overs cricket if he fails.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    http://www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-australia-2015/engine/match/810425.html

    Yeah so Jerome Taylor has a good day, just a shame the rest of the bowlers are not good enough. I like Holder but he doesn't have enough pace to trouble the top sides in test cricket just yet, while Roach has been dire since he returned. Adamant he was one of the most under rated bowlers in tests before this year, but wow its sad to see him these days.

    Permaul is average.

    Don't see the Aussies not trashing them.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Rjd2 wrote: »

    Don't see the Aussies not trashing them.

    277 runs in the end


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    277 runs in the end

    Normally I hate curators who prepare roads, but the Aussies will have to do that as this shower are touring for Christmas best of luck preparing a pitch for them to last more than 3 days then:pac::pac:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Normally I hate curators who prepare roads, but the Aussies will have to do that as this shower are touring for Christmas best of luck preparing a pitch for them to last more than 3 days then:pac::pac:
    :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Cricket fan


    Always annoys me watching the WI get mullered by top sides when the likes of us,Zim and Bangladesh are crying out for games. Realistically those sides are the level WI are at nowadays


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Always annoys me watching the WI get mullered by top sides when the likes of us,Zim and Bangladesh are crying out for games. Realistically those sides are the level WI are at nowadays
    Yep, there is a real argument to be made for a two-tier test system, I guess financially the other lower countries wouldnt be happy with it, but considering how almost no one goes to the tests in WI or Zim anymore anyway it probably wouldnt make a huge difference if it was compensated by some more ODIs against the big teams


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    It's only a couple of months since the Windies finished 1 1 in a series with England. Admittedly England were poor but I still think talk of their demise because they are getting battered by Australia is harsh. The Aussies are THE form team at the moment and they could humiliate a lot of teams on their day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭booth70


    The Bangers continue to impress in the shorter version of the game .....

    For India .... Getting hammered by Australia is one thing but to lose to Bangladesh??!!!...... Now that's a new low......Even for Indian cricket!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    booth70 wrote: »
    The Bangers continue to impress in the shorter version of the game .....

    For India .... Getting hammered by Australia is one thing but to lose to Bangladesh??!!!...... Now that's a new low......Even for Indian cricket!!!!



    Firstly, I love Rahane as a test batsman, but unless he opens in ODI cricket, he shouldn't be anywhere near the squad, his innings was a killer today.

    Dhoni is not the player he once was either, with Srini gone he may be vulnerable, although supposedly Shastri is a Dhoni yes man.:(


    Its crazy that with the IPL, India don't have a Buttler, Maxwell or even a Russell, a player who in the last 10-15 overs if they get in can cause absolute carnage. I'd like India to have a look at Hooda and Yadev in the next year or so for that role, the days of Dhoni slaughtering you at the death look gone.

    Kohli needs to get out of his 2015 rut, with Dhoni and Rahane not doing much, he needs to regain his form.


    Although at least Jadeja made 20 today, small steps and all that. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Oh and Mohit Sharma is a proper Dhoni pick, you wont be winning much with him.:o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭tharmor


    Dhoni has to go and retire...or come up the order...he is of no use at number 5


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    tharmor wrote: »
    Dhoni has to go and retire...or come up the order...he is of no use at number 5

    I think he should bat at four, I'd love to blend some of the younger IPL hitters with one eye on the world cup, heck if you don't try them now 3 and a half years away from it when will you?

    Today's win also means Pakistan are nearly certain to miss out on the champions trophy in 2017, so not an awful day for India:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Wake up India and stop playing ODI cricket as if its 1992, farcical.

    Although well done Bangladesh another resounding victory against one of their big brothers. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭booth70


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Wake up India and stop playing ODI cricket as if its 1992, farcical.

    Although well done Bangladesh another resounding victory against one of their big brothers. :)

    I wouldn't go to that extreme in my criticism:D... they did win the World cup 4 years ago and the Champions Trophy 2 years ago

    But they do have a huge problem in both formats of the game.....Dhoni has reached his sell by date.....he defo needs to go and I hope he takes his useless chums Mohit, Jadega and Rayudu with him

    Having watched the way Kohli captain and behave on the field I am not sure now that he has the right temperament for the captaincy

    That Dhoni is the best choice as captain among the current crap of players that India have is saying someting......Looks like Indian cricket is screwed for another few years at least :mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    booth70 wrote: »
    I wouldn't go to that extreme in my criticism:D... they did win the World cup 4 years ago and the Champions Trophy 2 years ago

    But they do have a huge problem in both formats of the game.....Dhoni has reached his sell by date.....he defo needs to go and I hope he takes his useless chums Mohit, Jadega and Rayudu with him

    Having watched the way Kohli captain and behave on the field I am not sure now that he has the right temperament for the captaincy

    That Dhoni is the best choice as captain among the current crap of players that India have is saying someting......Looks like Indian cricket is screwed for another few years at least :mad::mad:

    Its tricky really as ultimately one series isn't something to panic about and they may bounce back against Lanka and South Africa and this will all be forgotten about which is fair enough.

    However I thought their approach yesterday was dire, Raina and Dhoni going at a strike rate of 60:eek:

    I appreciate they had to rebuild, but they needed to be a little more positive than that, heck they were blocking Nasir bloody Hossain out.:eek::eek:

    Raina is an incredibly positive and aggressive player, but watching him bat as if he was playing for England in 1992 was very sad.

    Dhoni probably needs a break, but I fear he could be finished as well.

    However guys like Samson will never get a chance when he has such control over Indian cricket.

    Jadeja? I won't comment, to be fair he was handy in 2013, maybe he get back to that, but ultimately if he is going to get bat top 7, he needs to offer more.

    Rayudu is an incredibly boring selection, why not give some youngsters an opportunity? They may fail, but the world cup is years away, lets have a look at the likes of Iyer, Pandya, Samson and heck even Hoooooooooda.


    I actually think the batting line up in test cricket is strong enough, wouldn't be to concerned with it.

    I think with ODI cricket, they just need to be a little more positive and maybe try one or two players, they haven't turned useless overnight.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    So Australia and New Zealand are taking the plunge into a day/night Test match at the end of November. Have my doubts but it'll be interesting none the less. Pink balls and all.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Hat trick on debut for SA's Rabada against Bangladesh!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    So Australia and New Zealand are taking the plunge into a day/night Test match at the end of November. Have my doubts but it'll be interesting none the less. Pink balls and all.

    Its all well and good for the old dudes to say" test cricket must not be touched, its pure " etc, but it does need something to get the punters into some of the grounds and make it look more attractive. I hope it works. Test cricket needs some reinvigoration.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Bangladesh beat SA 2-1 and have qualified for the Champions Trophy at the expense of either Pakistan or West Indies. They've now recently won series against Zimbabwe twice, Pakistan, India and South Africa, as well as that win over England in the World Cup


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    And I for one welcome our new Bangladesh overlords. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Spot on.:)

    England's Barmy Army ‏@TheBarmyArmy 8h8 hours ago
    Hey @ICC, you're the ones who don't think it's worth having minnows at world cups, are you watching South Africa vs Japan? #changecricket


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    People in the rugby thread suggesting their world cup should be ten sides.:mad::mad:

    I don't even think the rugby world cup pool set up is that revolutionary, its just so much more sensible than cricket.

    Good article that.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/922767.html

    And yeah, have said it before and will say it again, I'd gladly have Sepp, Platini and his all chums running cricket than Giles Clarke.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27 Skylined.94


    So Australia and New Zealand are taking the plunge into a day/night Test match at the end of November. Have my doubts but it'll be interesting none the less. Pink balls and all.

    Really looking forward to this one also, two offensively minded teams in front a packed house at Adelaide Oval. Aussies could be a little vulnerable too!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Aye we have some cracking test series coming up, SA in India, Eng v Pak and of course the standout NZ touring Australia.

    Anyway West Indies is a basketcase, Phil Simmons asked to step down.:mad:

    http://rjrnewsonline.com/sports/exclusive-simmons-asked-to-stand-down-as-windies-coach


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Aye we have some cracking test series coming up, SA in India, Eng v Pak and of course the standout NZ touring Australia.

    Anyway West Indies is a basketcase, Phil Simmons asked to step down.:mad:

    http://rjrnewsonline.com/sports/exclusive-simmons-asked-to-stand-down-as-windies-coach
    I read his 'outburst' this morning, their whole setup has been a mess for years now, it's sad to see Simmons drawn into it

    And re the RWC, it alway really annoys me when I see Irish people call for the exclusion of the smaller teams


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 Skylined.94


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Aye we have some cracking test series coming up, SA in India, Eng v Pak and of course the standout NZ touring Australia.

    Anyway West Indies is a basketcase, Phil Simmons asked to step down.:mad:

    Outrageous what is happening to Phil Simmons, he made some big decisions during the winter in order to build for the future and just seems like he's fighting a losing battle. If he goes then WI cricket is in a bigger mess than we thought.


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Cricket fan


    Its obvious to me at least that when talking about the WI its when they'll split up and not if


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Joyce gone, Ireland 140/4 after 36 overs, hard to know what a par score is going to be here but I'd say we are scoring too slowly at the moment


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Cricket fan


    219/8

    Dunno what to make of this, Zim is never easy to bat on but it tends to flatten in the 2nd innings.

    Spinners gonna be pivotal, need 2 wickets in the first 10 overs to stand a chance IMO.

    Just like in the t20 qualifiers though, we get ourselves into a nice little position just needing one player to hit a 15 ball 25 or something and we collapse instead. Happening all too often


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Getting close now, 35 needed off 7 overs, 3 wickets left

    Whoops I meant to put my first post in the Ireland thread, not the international thread :o


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    11 runs, 2 wickets left


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭BarryD


    Close, but not close enough :)


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