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DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread
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Hi It wasn't me123 and welcome
No need to apologise, the more info the better. I think I might be missing a day though, do you rest on Thursday, Saturday and Sunday?
Sorry about the London experience but hopefully you will be a little bit wiser...and definitely more experienced! You know what to expect now...It is all the big unknown for our first timers.
Can you tell us more about your latest HM race? It suggests that a five hour target is cutting it a little fine but perhaps not with improvements along the way. Are you able to take part in the race series? The HM then will be a good point to reassess a target time.
Hi DG
Sorry I must have missed the recovery run on Saturday, I do my lsr on Fridays normally.
Last HM was Kinvara in Galway, it was a tough course, first 5m uphill, and it was the weekend we had hurricane conditions, and I had to walk a little bit of it. I also did a HM at Waterford in Dec 2014 and that was 2.20 - I think I could go better than that now, well, in a few weeks when I've done some lsr's. My next HM is Cahir downhill (the Jury's out on that) in July and then I have Boston Scientific HM in August. I'm in the south east so the race series really isn't an option for me.
I have a few Club races coming up, 5km on Saturday, 5km two weeks later at Ballyneale, 5 miler at Clerihan are the next few. I'll post my plan each week (I think that's what everyone does anyway) and I'll add my name to the google sheet.
This week's been a bit hit and miss, more miss really. Have visitors until next Wednesday so trying to fit the runs around work and their Outings.0 -
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EColi used to recommend running a half 8 weeks out, I ran the race series half last year, ran a great race and felt it really helped me. so either of those 2 would be good I would imagine,
Unfortunately, the DCHM coincides with the Ireland - Canada RWC match in Cardiff. Much as I loved the DCHM last year, I'm going to this game with my 8yo, and that trumps it... No really, it does..!
I'm also wondering how to fit in another HM at around the same time..0 -
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hillsiderunner wrote: »I have my first question, regarding the timing of races in the schedule. I'm wondering where is the best place to schedule a half-marathon race in the 18 weeks. Right now I'm looking at a few options:
- 9th August (11 weeks out): hilly-ish course with the race scheduled at 2pm when it is almost guaranteed to be *hot* (can't believe I am considering this again after last year's experience, but it's convenient ... and it would be a real *test* :rolleyes:)
- 16th August (10 weeks out): flattish multiterrain half along the coast including beach, trail, road (my heart is with this one, but it's a bit of a trek, and the unusual terrain might mean it won't correlate so well for getting Pace estimates)
- 30th August (8 weeks out): flattish road race but on the boring side
- 19th Sept (5 weeks out): flattish road race again (not DCHM as it happens).
The 19th Sept is the same date as DCHM but I was thinking I might plan to do the half a bit earlier, so I'd get a revised estimate of Marathon page at an earlier stage of the game, and could incorporate that for the later stages of training. Of course too early a HM and I won't have absorbed enough of the training benefit ... though in my case for the past 5-6 weeks I've been training at 30+ miles/week with LSRs between 13-16miles, so I have got a decent amount of "half" training done even by now.
Any views? Would it make sense to do two HMs, or better not? The only other race I'll do is the Fingal 10k (plus a few parkruns in weeks -18 to -12).
Hi hillyEColi used to recommend running a half 8 weeks out, I ran the race series half last year, ran a great race and felt it really helped me. so either of those 2 would be good I would imagine, Looks like it's the flat but boring one so.....If you want a real indicator, it looks like that's your best bet. Sorry, I know that's not what you really wanted to hear 
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Hi hilly Looks like it's the flat but boring one so.....If you want a real indicator, it looks like that's your best bet. Sorry, I know that's not what you really wanted to hear
I kinda knew anyway .... and have just been checking British Rail and "fortunately" I will be able to travel early enough to Dundee, in order to get the connection to the middle-of-nowhere where the run takes place. Unless the date ended up clashing with as-yet-unbooked holidays of course*
* ... but if it does I'll do the other flat one on the 19th Sept which is very local0 -
This Fat Girl Runs wrote: »Nope! Not me! You'll be happy to know I did slow down tonight on my 5 mile hard run. Even when I was feeling great at a faster pace I slowed down. :cool:
Also, I think I'm going to have to start preparing easy dinners the night before so that when I get in from my run I can eat instead of having to come in from my run, stretch, shower then cook. It's 9pm and I'm still waiting to eat! What does everyone else do?
The key to helping your problems here is preparation. Know what you are going to eat and when you will eat it. if that means preparing veggies the night before such as peeling / chopping / cutting then go for it. This will also solve a lot of issues of reaching for the wrong food when you could have had a decent nutritious meal cooked in probably the same time.
It is always good to have a couple of 'go to' staples in the cupboards that you can reach for if required. Eggs, cheese & peppers, a couple of torn slices of ham will give you a decent omelette in just a few minutes. Pasta shells, tin tomatoes / jar passata, chopped peppers, garlic & herbs, again with some ham will also give you a meal in about 7 mins.
But if you have the time, I know lots of people that cook full meals like lasagne, stew, chilli on a sunday and freeze the portions.
Even just laying out ingredients before you leave fopr work in the morning will help you and immediately save you time on thinking 'what will I have?' while you stare into a press for 5minutes.0 -
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Unfortunately, the DCHM coincides with the Ireland - Canada RWC match in Cardiff. Much as I loved the DCHM last year, I'm going to this game with my 8yo, and that trumps it... No really, it does..!
I'm also wondering how to fit in another HM at around the same time..
I'm in the same situation. I'm going with my dad and brother (who's also running Dublin). We are thinking of running a half marathon distance at proper pace ourselves on the Saturday morning in Cardiff if we don't find another suitable race around the same time. There are lovely routes starting at the park just across from the stadium and heading out of the city.
My brother did a 20 mile LSR in Cardiff the morning of the Ireland v Wales game in March. I had unfortunately just injured my knee so couldn't run with him but I rented a bike for the morning and cycled along to keep him company. Hopefully we'll both be injury free in September. His PB for a half is 1h36m and mine is 1h37m so bragging right would be up for grabs for the winner!0 -
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Hi chrislad and Diego_b, no harm in doing this as your lsr but....you will need to be very disciplined. The temptation will be there to get carried away at the start as everyone hares off. You however, will have to be the tortoise to everyone else's hare: you will be starting off with baby steps and checking your form, won't youI was thinking of doing the Killarney Half Marathon on July 18th as my LSR. Has anyone done it? Is it a decent course or a risky one? The reason I ask is that I did Ballybunnion Half earlier this year, and it nearly killed me, with the hills!
Along the way, if support along the course is any good, you'll be exhorted by well-meaning well-wishes to 'go faster', 'not long now' etc. Towards the end, you'll be told to 'put the foot down' and you will have to resist the temptation to race people who are whizzing by you the last half mile...as you are warming down :mad:
If you feel you can do that, your next step is to get online - or on your bike - and examine every inch of the course. Know at what stage the uphills are, the quad-shredding downhills, the long lonely bits and plan your strategy accordingly. It's relatively early in the schedule and at this stage, you should really just be learning how 'to do' lsr's, this is the only caution I would propose, ie that a race situation might prove too much of a distraction.
Anyone else had a similar experience?0 -
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Some half marathon alternatives to consider:
Dublin Half September 19th (5 Weeks out from DCM)
Charleville Half Sept 20th (5 Weeks)
Athlone Half September 12th (6 Weeks)
Tullamore Half August 29th (8 Weeks)
Longford Half August 30th (8 Weeks)
I think all of those would be good ones to consider.
The Rock 'n Roll Half August 2nd, Dublin
I'm doing this one 0
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