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Big Brother UK 2015 **Use spoiler tags, mod warning post #1 & 3037**

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    Old Perry wrote: »
    how has harry made hrself out to be crazy? neither am i suggesting mark is crazy, if he'd lost his mind it might in some way excuse his lack of common decency.

    Did you miss her behaviour in the diary room last night? She'll have a breakdown soon, feltz style.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    mdwexford wrote: »
    What are you on about.
    Necrominus wrote: »
    What the hell are you raving on about?

    I see we have a few farmers that read the thread.

    Im just spouting hyperbolic nonsense to keep with the theme of the conversation is all. Funny how ye both only quoted and replied to half my post.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 58,128 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Old Perry wrote:
    how has harry made hrself out to be crazy? neither am i suggesting mark is crazy, if he'd lost his mind it might in some way excuse his lack of common decency.


    The utter silence. The isolating of herself from the rest of the house, not just Marc. The thinly veiled threat of violence.
    Let's be honest, if you were in your local at the weekend and someone made that comment re: the bottle, you'd feel incredibly threatened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    Willing to take bets on

    Harri hitting someone.
    Harri being removed for her own safety or that of the other housemates.

    Someone spending a few hours in bed, in a confined setting like the BB house cause someone else was giving them **** wouldnt make me call them crazy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭United Chester Men


    What I think Marc understands more than the rest of them is that it is a game, you are there to entertain and to stay in the process. Its a competition and they are competing against each other. He is playing the game.

    Its far better than people thinking by doing nothing and being extra polite well make them win it.

    Take marc out from yesterday's episode -what else happened?

    nick and harri sweating under the blankets
    nick picking his nose
    jack snoring
    christian sleeping beside him

    not really a ratings winner their for BB

    Nothing else happened because BB wants to show everything he does. Also the only reason everything is revolving around Marc in the house because everyone is tiptoeing around him and he has full control of everything in general.His manipulation in the bedroom about Harriet is evidence of this. They were all under a spell when he was speaking and not one of them made a comment how he is the one who has initiatd everything between them . It is suiting him to have her act isolated and slightly aggressive as he can now turn the house against her. Why doesn't he just use his "i don't give a **** what people think of me mantra" to ignore her and stop making horrendous comments about her.

    It is the complete epitome of underhand bullying . The girl is obviously a troubled individual in a confined space with everyone gradually turning against her. Why wouldnt she be upset and angry and frustrated. It is human nature


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭Old Perry


    mdwexford wrote: »
    Yesterday she came across as very strange I thought.

    Going all silent and detaching herself from everyone.
    Then the chat at the end saying to Nick that Marc should be afraid of her.
    The threat of hitting him with a bottle and I think I remember her saying something similar the day before.

    She just comes across as a strange troubled individual imo.

    She would have to be to do what she does for "a job" presumably.
    Maybe in a confrontation with someone like mark the thing is to ignore his ****e? maybe she felt isolated and withdrew, maybe she needed time to collect herself, silence can mean many more things than crazy.


    thinking ill about someone who treats u like that is completely normal. i often think id love to box his ears for him. it doesnt constitute a legitimate threat nor crazyness.

    her line of work is also irrelevant. mark is a stripper and has said he has slept with over 200 women, id imagine given all the facts it would be hard to distinguish between their promiscuity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,310 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    I see we have a few farmers that read the thread.

    Im just spouting hyperbolic nonsense to keep with the theme of the conversation is all. Funny how ye both only quoted and replied to half my post.

    Farmers, yeah, eh good one.

    The second half of your post had nothing to do with the first so don't see how quoting that would have mattered.

    It's also not that funny.
    Willing to take bets on

    Harri hitting someone.
    Harri being removed for her own safety or that of the other housemates.

    Excellent I'll have €10 at 50/1.
    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,310 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Old Perry wrote: »
    Maybe in a confrontation with someone like mark the thing is to ignore his ****e? maybe she felt isolated and withdrew, maybe she needed time to collect herself, silence can mean many more things than crazy.


    thinking ill about someone who treats u like that is completely normal. i often think id love to box his ears for him. it doesnt constitute a legitimate threat nor crazyness.

    her line of work is also irrelevant. mark is a stripper and has said he has slept with over 200 women, id imagine given all the facts it would be hard to distinguish between their promiscuity.

    All possible, I don't know what's going on in her head.

    But to me, she seems like she is a bit of a headcase.


    A male stripper and a girl who uses guys eh stuff as moisturiser on camera for money is a fair difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    mdwexford wrote: »
    Farmers, yeah, eh good one.

    The second half of your post had nothing to do with the first so don't see how quoting that would have mattered.

    It's also not that funny.



    Excellent I'll have €10 at 50/1.
    Thanks.

    Why you so insulted with farmers?

    You ignored it cause you it went against your hyperbolisms.

    It was funny to me.

    Said I'd take bets not that you could set the odds.

    I'll give you up to 100@ 5/1 if you want, pick which one you want and we will find an escrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭Old Perry


    Necrominus wrote: »
    The utter silence. The isolating of herself from the rest of the house, not just Marc. The thinly veiled threat of violence.
    Let's be honest, if you were in your local at the weekend and someone made that comment re: the bottle, you'd feel incredibly threatened.

    the utter silence? can someone please give me a definition of silence whereby crazyness is a characteristic. people who are silent or quiet are crazy? simple as that. this is diluded.

    at most her silence and threat were immature and rash.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    Harri is not gonna hit anyone in the house!
    Thinking otherwise is crazy talk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    Old Perry wrote: »
    the utter silence? can someone please give me a definition of silence whereby crazyness is a characteristic. people who are silent or quite are crazy? simple as that. this is diluded.

    at most her silence and threat were immature and rash.

    Sure she is a crazy woman shtombing around the house and shpendind all day in bed, I heard she even has a wife jesus whats the world coming to, Twont be long now till all the resht ah dem wake up dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭power pants


    Nothing else happened because BB wants to show everything he does. Also the only reason everything is revolving around Marc in the house because everyone is tiptoeing around him and he has full control of everything in general.His manipulation in the bedroom about Harriet is evidence of this. They were all under a spell when he was speaking and not one of them made a comment how he is the one who has initiatd everything between them . It is suiting him to have her act isolated and slightly aggressive as he can now turn the house against her. Why doesn't he just use his "i don't give a **** what people think of me mantra" to ignore her and stop making horrendous comments about her.

    It is the complete epitome of underhand bullying . The girl is obviously a troubled individual in a confined space with everyone gradually turning against her. Why wouldnt she be upset and angry and frustrated. It is human nature

    Im not sure you understand what big brother is about either.

    its a game show, where you pit your wits against the other housemates in anyway deemed acceptable by the producers and the public

    If you overstep the mark, you will be asked to leave either by the producers or by the public

    Mark is playing the game and so far towing a fine line but definitely ruling the house.

    I think some people on here think BB is an experiment of everyday life of how adults behave behind closed doors. This is not the case :pac:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 58,128 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    It is the complete epitome of underhand bullying . The girl is obviously a troubled individual in a confined space with everyone gradually turning against her. Why wouldnt she be upset and angry and frustrated. It is human nature


    And the agenda Harry clearly has against Marc since last week hasn't played a part in that at all no? Talk about an agenda. Harry had not one, but two wishes read aloud by Marc, while most of the other housemates only had one. She doesn't participate fully in tasks, and should be pulled up on this which is how the whole issue started (fraternity task). All she's interested in doing is getting her bits out on TV or snuggling up to Nick under the blankets to give a perception of sex.
    People on here talk about Marc and his game-playing. Harry is just as bad, actually she's worse because there is no entertainment value in seeing someone parade around the house naked each and every day. Horrid individual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭Old Perry


    Necrominus wrote: »
    People on here talk about Marc and his game-playing. Harry is just as bad, actually she's worse because there is no entertainment value in seeing someone parade around the house naked each and every day. Horrid individual.

    Mark could be the main attraction on st. patricks day he parades around that much.

    horrid individual? i seem to remember mark whipin it out also a number of times. youd see less posturing in a cock fight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭Missymoohaa


    Im not sure you understand what big brother is about either.

    its a game show, where you pit your wits against the other housemates in anyway deemed acceptable by the producers and the public

    If you overstep the mark, you will be asked to leave either by the producers or by the public

    Mark is playing the game and so far towing a fine line but definitely ruling the house.

    I think some people on here think BB is an experiment of everyday life of how adults behave behind closed doors. This is not the case :pac:

    applaud applaud applaud :):) this is a great post, my take on the programme entirely, some people take it WAY too seriously.

    It's a gameshow and Marc is playing the game brilliantly and with great entertainment for the viewers.

    Harri, though, I do not think she's crazy by any means, acted very strangely yesterday. She could have been pre menstrual (we can all get a bit stroppy then) who knows, I'll see if she's back on form tonight before I judge.:cool:
    That said, I can't take to her at all, her game is far too transparent I think, Mark is working harder and playing it more intelligently I think anyway. He really must be boll*xed by now. Duracell Bunny or what?

    Anyway the bookies have him at 7/2 favourite but Chloe and Danny are closing in on him. They have him to thank for that as he brought both of them out onto the stage more. They were proper boring before he came.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,310 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    but seriously no one is coming across crazy, Marc is being a Dick and she is being passive agressive. The hype is pretty funny though
    Why you so insulted with farmers?

    You ignored it cause you it went against your hyperbolisms.

    It was funny to me.

    Said I'd take bets not that you could set the odds.

    I'll give you up to 100@ 5/1 if you want, pick which one you want and we will find an escrow.

    I'm not insulted, I find it strange someone would try and use the word farmer as an insult.

    I've quoted you above now, so because you say no one is coming across as crazy that means it's case closed? How she's coming across to me and how she's coming across to you are two different things.

    You must have be good crack if that was funny to you.

    5/1 is a shockingly bad value price, I shall not be availing of your offer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    mdwexford wrote: »
    I'm not insulted, I find it strange someone would try and use the word farmer as an insult.

    I've quoted you above now, so because you say no one is coming across as crazy that means it's case closed? How she's coming across to me and how she's coming across to you are two different things.

    You must have be good crack if that was funny to you.

    5/1 is a shockingly bad value price, I shall not be availing of your offer.

    I wasnt using it as an insult dont be putting words in my mouth now.

    We wouldnt really be discussing it if she was coming across the same way to both of us, I never said case closed either as I left the discussion very open, again you misrepresent what I'm saying.

    So you dont think this crazy person will get thrown out or lash out 83.3% of the time. What % do you think she will out of interest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭mr bungle.


    The thing about Harri is that she came into the house all guns (baps) blazing.her body was going to be her main asset then she would have expected to have at least two or three of the lads drooling over her as she paraded around in the nip.fast forward a few weeks and the total opposite has happened.people telling her to put them away.harri might possibly be thinking that this doesn't bode to well for her future career.the realization of this could be one of the reasons for her thousand yard stare last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,310 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Ha ok now I have it, Harri is coming across crazy I now have the demograph, Middle aged bachelor farmers
    I wasnt using it as an insult dont be putting words in my mouth now.

    We wouldnt really be discussing it if she was coming across the same way to both of us, I never said case closed either as I left the discussion very open, again you misrepresent what I'm saying.

    So you dont think this crazy person will get thrown out or lash out 83.3% of the time. What % do you think she will out of interest

    So the above quote is not meant to insulting, what tripe.

    You twice accused me of hyperbole when I had a different point of view. That's not having a very open discussion.

    If she got thrown out 83.3% of the time then it would be a 1/5 shot, not a 5/1 shot.

    It's more like a 33/1 chance that she actually gets kicked out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    mdwexford wrote: »
    So the above quote is not meant to insulting, what tripe.

    You twice accused me of hyperbole when I had a different point of view. That's not having a very open discussion.

    If she got thrown out 83.3% of the time then it would be a 1/5 shot, not a 5/1 shot.

    It's more like a 33/1 chance that she actually gets kicked out.

    I said earlier I was interested in the demograph of people who think that way I threw one out at random got a few bites so I know a tiny bit more than I did.

    I do still think its hyperbolic what you said tbh but Im open to discuss it.

    Yep correct about the maths was thinking my side. (apologies about that)

    33/1 is too big to lay on a crazy person being thrown out seems more suitable for a normal(ish) person who is being wound up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,310 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    I said earlier I was interested in the demograph of people who think that way I threw one out at random got a few bites so I know a tiny bit more than I did.

    I do still think its hyperbolic what you said tbh but Im open to discuss it.

    Yep correct about the maths was thinking my side. (apologies about that)

    33/1 is too big to lay on a crazy person being thrown out seems more suitable for a normal(ish) person who is being wound up.

    Well you got a bite from a 30 something married Dublin person so that throws a spanner in your demographic. ;)

    You don't agree she's crazy though so 33s should be fine.

    Anyway let's move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    If Harry had taken Jade's approach to Marc, it would stand to her much more. The sulky silent teenager act won't win her any allies in there.

    I agree with someone earlier who said her gameplan had gone to shit and her "I don't care what anyone thinks of me" schtick is starting to unravel a bit now. She clearly does care and when even Nick is starting to doubt her motives, she must be wondering how she can rewind and find a new way to play the game.

    As much of a knob as Marc is, I reckon he's right when he said she's trying to manipulate a situation where he's either going to be severely warned or thrown out by BB. She'd be much better off playing his game and beating him at it, rather than going down the petulant victim route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭branners69


    Take marc out from yesterday's episode -what else happened?

    All you have to do is look at this thread, currently on page 96. There have been 60 pages since Marc went in. The entire Big Brother 2014 thread had 27 pages.

    Love him or hate him, Marc has created a divide which has been a huge boost for a flagging show in recent years!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Crimsonforce


    Marc is a whopper buzz


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    If Harry had taken Jade's approach to Marc, it would stand to her much more. The sulky silent teenager act won't win her any allies in there.

    I agree with someone earlier who said her gameplan had gone to shit and her "I don't care what anyone thinks of me" schtick is starting to unravel a bit now. She clearly does care and when even Nick is starting to doubt her motives, she must be wondering how she can rewind and find a new way to play the game.

    As much of a knob as Marc is, I reckon he's right when he said she's trying to manipulate a situation where he's either going to be severely warned or thrown out by BB. She'd be much better off playing his game and beating him at it, rather than going down the petulant victim route.

    Marc is manipulating and stirring about her too though.

    Its weird because I like marc and I don't really like harry but I lean more towards her side on this.

    Marc is an authoritarian, he needs to control. Harry is an anarchist, she wants to be free but she is also manipulative.

    I don't like how Nick is handling the situation either. I think he's keeping both sides happy but he's coming off as a bit wimpy like in fairness he hasn't really stood by harry really and he did the same with Jade when everyone turned against her so I wonder who is really using who with those two.

    I do think that harry probably feels extremely repressed in the house. I know they want her to wear clothes and I would want her to wear clothes too but there is thing of 'you have to try to fit in with our way in the house' . They do this to simon as well, they nit pick at his personality because it doesn't fit in their opinion of a harmonious house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭United Chester Men


    Necrominus wrote: »
    And the agenda Harry clearly has against Marc since last week hasn't played a part in that at all no? Talk about an agenda. Harry had not one, but two wishes read aloud by Marc, while most of the other housemates only had one. She doesn't participate fully in tasks, and should be pulled up on this which is how the whole issue started (fraternity task). All she's interested in doing is getting her bits out on TV or snuggling up to Nick under the blankets to give a perception of sex.
    People on here talk about Marc and his game-playing. Harry is just as bad, actually she's worse because there is no entertainment value in seeing someone parade around the house naked each and every day. Horrid individual.

    i think you are missing the point. PPeople arent really defending Harry, I personally think she is very troubled and not the most intelligent and extremely vulnerable and her nakedness is bordering on disgusting at this stage.

    My issue though is that Marc should have a little bit of empathy and not be, what I see, as bullying her now that he has her in a corner after his behaviour drove her up the wall. He willingly took others aside and sorted out stuff when they confronted him, ie Danny and Chloe but he is now turning himself into a victim in this scenario and manipulating the others into agreeing with him. He can give it but cant take it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    Im not sure you understand what big brother is about either.

    its a game show, where you pit your wits against the other housemates in anyway deemed acceptable by the producers and the public

    If you overstep the mark, you will be asked to leave either by the producers or by the public

    Mark is playing the game and so far towing a fine line but definitely ruling the house.

    I think some people on here think BB is an experiment of everyday life of how adults behave behind closed doors. This is not the case :pac:

    I think everyone understands that it is a game but there are parts that are real in how people choose to play that game and its fun to analyse it well I think it is. The game reveals aspects of peoples personalities whether they like it not.

    Some people reveal nasty, loveable, controlling or very controlled, fun, sensitive, critical, mental or whatever traits come out as they are trying to play the game. Its still real even if they are playing the game because its how they play and react to the game that reveals them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭United Chester Men


    Marc is a whopper buzz

    say what??? cool slang?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭drugstore cowboy


    It would be great banter to evict Jack's dressing gown or have Marc steal it as part of a task


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