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  • #662
    dublin runner
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    Monday 1/6
    13.10 Miles


    AM: 5 Miles Easy @7.33p/m in 37:44
    PM: 7.10 Miles Easy @7.28p/m in 52:59


    Quite thankful today was an easy day as the win was a right pain. Between standing on Hill 16 for hours the day previous and running in that weather, I am ready for summer!



    Tuesday 2/6
    13+ Miles


    AM


    8 Miles


    Magness (2/8): Session 1


    Plan: Lactate Threshold 15 minutes~ 4 min recovery, 4x60seconds hill repeats ~jog down recovery


    15 minutes @LT: 2.66 Miles @5.39p/m average (5.42. 5.41, 5.34 -.66 mile)

    Hills: 8x30sec @1 mile effort ~jog own recovery

    -inc. drills/strides


    It's hard to know your LT without doing proper testing. It's even harder to run at LT after you have taken a massive fall during the warm-up! Ouch. In layman's terms, LT is approximately 10 mile race effort or the fine line between anaerobic and aerobic running. I settled on a target of 5.40 per mile after much thought but I was happy enough to tip around basing everything on effort if needs be. In all a good hard run in which I could have faster but that would have defeated the purpose of the session. A decent benchmark was set today and it will be interesting to see the pace of this type of run over the next few weeks.

    I was in two minds about the hill repeats. There was no suitable hill nearby (well, within the alloted 4 min rec) so for the first time I went off script and decided on 8x30 (vs. 4x60) on a nearby steep hill. Hard but fine.


    PM

    5 Miles Easy @7.22p/m in 36:52


  • #663
    menoscemo
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    Assuming you were at the beermile stadium; there is a nice downhill on the southside of the track down towards Loughlinstown.
    Running into the wind would have probably had the same affect given today's weather :)


  • #664
    dublin runner
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    menoscemo wrote: »
    Assuming you were at the beermile stadium; there is a nice downhill on the southside of the track down towards Loughlinstown.
    Running into the wind would have probably had the same affect given today's weather :)

    Cool. I'll check that out next time! Cheers


  • #665
    dublin runner
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    Friday 5/6

    6 Miles Easy @7.07p/m in 42:46



    Saturday 6/6


    AM

    6.11+ Miles


    -1 mile warm-up
    -Marlay Park Parkrun @5.36p/m in 17.23
    -2 miles warm-down


    A good tempo run in windy conditions. Good to be back on the horse after a good break away from racing. Never pushed myself too hard as I only had one easy day running instead of the prescribed two. Steve Magness has finally given me a kick. I didn't have the watch on which meant the time flew by. Loads more to come.


  • #666
    PaulieC
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    Such modesty...


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  • #667
    dublin runner
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    PaulieC wrote:
    Such modesty...

    Just wait until Saturday........!!!


  • #668
    Notwork Error
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    Just interested in how you're finding the switch from marathon training to 5k training while maintaining mileage DR? I was taking a similar approach coming out of Dublin last year though more 10k focused but I never got to see how it worked out because of injury.

    How's the body feel with having to do a lot shorter runs but more often instead of getting the bulk of your mileage from the long runs and med-long runs? Which way are you finding easier on the body?

    At times, I was finding it more difficult to run doubles than run longer in one go as strange as that sounds so I'd be interested ti hear your thoughts on it.


  • #669
    yaboya1
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    Notwork Error wrote: »
    At times, I was finding it more difficult to run doubles than run longer in one go as strange as that sounds

    I've always found this too, no matter how short the double is. Don't ask me why?


  • #670
    PaulieC
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    yaboya1 wrote: »
    I've always found this too, no matter how short the double is. Don't ask me why?

    twice as much washing ?


  • #671
    kit3
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    PaulieC wrote: »
    twice as much washing ?

    Hate this one - especially when you thrown a cycle or two into the mix. Can have 3 lots some days !


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  • #672
    dublin runner
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    Notwork Error wrote: »
    Just interested in how you're finding the switch from marathon training to 5k training while maintaining mileage DR? I was taking a similar approach coming out of Dublin last year though more 10k focused but I never got to see how it worked out because of injury.

    How's the body feel with having to do a lot shorter runs but more often instead of getting the bulk of your mileage from the long runs and med-long runs? Which way are you finding easier on the body?

    At times, I was finding it more difficult to run doubles than run longer in one go as strange as that sounds so I'd be interested ti hear your thoughts on it.

    Hey, interesting questions.

    It's was initially very hard to break free of the marathon training shackles. Losing the midweek long/long steady and tempo/long weekend run was a bit of a shock initially, both mentally and physically. There's something incredibly satisfying in running for 20+ miles. Also, the idea of being fresh for sessions was hard to get my head around. My marathon training has always been about running on tired legs, in training and races.

    Yeah, definitely finding it easier on the old body. This is probably mainly down to taking the easy days back a fair amount. There's usually 2/3 sessions a week so everything is geared towards that. That's hopefully where the real improvements will be made.

    You kind of have no choice but to do a far amount of double days. I find it way easier on the legs to do 2*6 Mile runs over a single 10/11 mile run. Like anything running 4/5 doubles a week quickly becomes a habit. It's now routine. People think you are mad (non-runners!) but it makes sense.

    I would only recommend the Magness plans to a runner with a good base. Most weeks are 75+ miles so you need to be strong as the plan could break a runner not accustomed to the higher mileage stuff. I don't think the plan is any way high mileage for a 5k. There shouldn't be a huge difference between a marathon vs. 5k plan in my opinion.

    I am already really feeling the benefit after 2 weeks. For the first real time I felt I had a kick, an extra gear on Saturday. I really surprised myself that I could maintain a big surge in pace and hold it. That's a huge addition and hopefully I can build on it. I am genuinely excited to see where it takes me.

    Once I wrap up the shorter stuff in 6 weeks it's straight onto marathon training. Hopefully by that stage I would have raced a good amount and knocked my 5k time right down.
    yaboya1 wrote: »
    I've always found this too, no matter how short the double is. Don't ask me why?

    It largely comes own to mileage. I wouldn't really advise a runner running under 45mpw to do more than one double a week. The real benefits of the double are mainly lost. If you are running 80+ mile weeks you really have to do a good few doubles in my opinion. Like most things, you have to give them a prolonged chance. After a few weeks you'll probably see the benefits. They work for me but each to their own!


  • #673
    dublin runner
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    Saturday 6/7

    PM

    6 Miles Easy @7.11p/m in 43:07



    Sunday 7/7

    8.10 Miles Easy @7.15p/m in 58:45


    WEEK TOTAL: 70.8+ MILES



    Monday 8/7
    12 Miles


    AM: 6 Miles Easy @7.25p/m in 44:30
    PM: 6 Miles Easy @7.16p/m in 43:38



    Tuesday 9/7

    AM

    7+ Miles


    Magness (3/8): Session 1

    Session: 1,600 @5k, 400m @1mile, 1,200 @5k, 300m @1mile, 600m @5k (last 300m kick/surge) ~3 min recovery


    Splits:
    1,600m: 5.20 (5.21p/m)
    400m: 69sec (4.37p/m)
    1,200m: 3.55 (5.15p/m)
    300m: 55sec (4.37p/m)
    600m (inc. kick): 1.51 (4.58p/m)


    A somewhat complicated session on paper but with all of his sessions, they make sense when you get into it. I'm still basing my pace on effort, rather than clock-watching and trying to hit certain splits. As I won't be wearing a watch during the next few races I feel this is the best approach. Here's hoping.

    During the usual 2 mile warm-up I took a quick glance in the direction of the cinder track. A school athletics day was taking place. FFS! I had the option to scrap the session or plough on, risking embarrassing myself before quite a large crowd. On I went..........

    The session was tough, with a few detours around the relay race to spice up proceedings! Probably the hardest session to date. The 1,200m was hard going as too was the last rep with the 'kick'. The legs were hanging off me for the 'kick' part. I am still not too sure whether it was a surge or just me keeping the pace respectable! A fair bit of dodging on the 300m rep meant a slow reading.

    The guilt of reeling in a young kid on the track to maintain the pace wasn't my finest moment.............:o I won by the way!


  • #674
    dublin runner
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    Tuesday 9/6

    PM


    5.15 Miles Easy @7.31p/m in 38:44

    A nice easy run to loosen out the legs after that mornings session. Well, that's how it should read. I had a serious leg wobble between mile 3-4 on a downhill section. Thoughts of that ice cold can of Sprite sitting in the fridge (not mine!) filled the mind. I know when this happens I am low on energy. Luckily it very rarely happens! Recovered and got home.



    Wednesday 10/6

    9 Miles Easy @7.43p/m in 1.09:27


    Crackin' run with company around my old haunt. Forgot how nice running on the canal is. The traffic is a right pain though!



    Thursday 11/6


    AM

    8 Miles


    Magness (3/8): Session 2

    Plan: Aerobic Refresh

    -10min @MP, 7min @LT, 5 min @10k, 3 min @5k ~3 min recovery/easy

    To you and me, a broken progressive run :).......


    Splits:

    10min @MP: 1.69 miles @5.56p/m in 10:02
    7min @LT: 1.26 miles @5.34p/m in 7:01
    5min @10k: .91 mile @5.31p/m in 5:01
    3min @5k: .58 mile @5.14p/m in 3:02


    I finally worked out that you can add 5 (max 6) seconds to each pace per mile to account for the garmin on the cinder. A hard mornings work but the weather was verging on perfection. As you can see, I kind of fell asleep of the 10k rep. I just went a bit easy on myself. I probably had one eye on the last rep. I feel like I am pushing myself a bit more every session and honing in on my true pace. This week is the toughest to date so will be a happy man on Sunday when I have gotten through it! The main thing is that I am enjoying it. I actually look forward to sessions. Never thought i'd say that!


  • #675
    theboyblunder
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    Hi DR

    Good to see you back at it. I'd wonder about about those paces- you dont seem to have raced since donadea, andf little enough before that?

    The faster you are the further LT should be from 10K pace. I'd be worried youre pushing very hard in these. 5:56/mile marathon pace?

    Have you thought about a race - see where you are and run the paces off that?

    Good luck with the magness plan -will follow with interest. :)


  • #676
    dublin runner
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    theboyblunder wrote: »
    Hi DR

    Good to see you back at it. I'd wonder about about those paces- you dont seem to have raced since donadea, andf little enough before that?

    The faster you are the further LT should be from 10K pace. I'd be worried youre pushing very hard in these. 5:56/mile marathon pace?

    Have you thought about a race - see where you are and run the paces off that?

    Good luck with the magness plan -will follow with interest. :)


    Hey, yeah valid points. The paces are a small deceiving. The garmin measures quick so you can add 5/6 seconds per mile. I try to do most things by effort, I have another few weeks to focus on hitting certain splits etc. I did a race last week (first for four months!). Granted it last around LT effort, not race pace. The idea is to race now a fair bit without the watch over the next few weeks. I don't want the added pressure of trying to certain splits just yet (if that makes any sense!). It will take time. I will make mistakes but I feel this is the best approach. The plan has me racing every 2nd week but I will do a few more as I am rusty!

    I went from bagging a few 5k sessions before starting the Magness. A good few actually. I had to start again, stop running the club sessions and since I did that I have completed each session without wanting to die so I think (and hope) I have started to get things right. It's a pain not going the sessions with others but I have to learn how to run my own pace.

    Yeah, I agree about LT. It's the one real pace I am apprehensive about training at. I may get myself tested.

    Hope that makes some sense.


  • #677
    dublin runner
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    Thursday 11/6
    13+ Miles

    PM: 5 Miles Easy @7.27p/m in 37:18



    Friday 12/6
    11.50 Miles


    PM: 6.50 Miles Easy @7.20p/m in 47:42
    PM: 5 Miles Easy @7.24p/m in 37:04


    Tired.



    Saturday 13/6


    AM

    Medium Long Run
    -14 Miles @7.01p/m in 1.38:20
    ~inc. 6x30 second strides (@3k effort) in last 2.5 miles

    https://connect.garmin.com/activity/802443578


    Content to see the aerobic base in decent shape. This was my longest run in quite some some and the longest run in the 8 week competition phase. The idea (I imagine) is to push the effort when on tired legs. Race simulation if you will. A good mornings work which is good as I have a half marathon race in two weeks. It won't be a race I will go flat out on but it should prove a good honest test.

    Feeling sharper with each passing week which is also good as I have a 'race' tonight. How that will go is anyone's guess..........:D


  • #678
    dublin runner
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    Saturday 13/6

    PM


    PB!

    National Beer Mile: 3rd Place in 6.09

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=95882822&postcount=678



    Sunday 14/6

    8 Miles Easy @7.06p/m in 56:47


    Somehow got away with this one! Legs in good order.


    WEEK TOTAL: 80.65+ MILES (+1 BEER MILE :))



    Last week was amongst the hardest in the 8 week schedule and the toughest to date. Three hard days were balanced by 4 easier ones. It probably wasn't the best idea to run fast on the beer mile but it's a once a year event! (how I ran a 69 second last lap i'll never know). I may race twice this week but certainly once. I may swap a session for a hard 5k training run in order to sharpen the old racing skills. I need to get rid of some of the rust! I'll play it by feel.


  • #679
    tang1
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    Return visit to Kilbride?


  • #680
    dublin runner
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    tang1 wrote: »
    Return visit to Kilbride?

    Yeah, half thinking about it. Had a nightmare there last year but loved the race. A really fast course (for 'rural' Ireland!). I'll see how the body feels tonight. I'm 50/50. If I do i'll just run hard and leave the watch it the car. You heading over?


  • #681
    tang1
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    dublin runner wrote: »
    Yeah, half thinking about it. Had a nightmare there last year but loved the race. A really fast course (for 'rural' Ireland!). I'll see how the body feels tonight. I'm 50/50. If I do i'll just run hard and leave the watch it the car. You heading over?

    Na, eldest lad has a introductory school evening tomorrow so that scuppered my plans to do it.


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  • #682
    menoscemo
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    You doing Dunshaughlin?
    ( I realise I may have asked you this in the pub :o)


  • #683
    Myles Splitz
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    Hi DublinRunner,

    Just catching up on the log and see your following Magness. What's the target race? Notice you have a few tempoish efforts in races and a Half Marathon coming up.

    Do you have many 5k's specifically chosen for the training plan you are doing?


  • #684
    dublin runner
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    menoscemo wrote: »
    You doing Dunshaughlin?
    ( I realise I may have asked you this in the pub :o)

    Ha, you could have! No idea.

    Working late the previous night so doubt it. It's a late start though so I may do. 10km race might not be the best option though. Heard it's a great race.
    Myles Splitz wrote: »
    Hi DublinRunner,

    Just catching up on the log and see your following Magness. What's the target race? Notice you have a few tempoish efforts in races and a Half Marathon coming up.

    Do you have many 5k's specifically chosen for the training plan you are doing?

    Hey

    Haven't really looked that far ahead to be honest! With it being the summer I should be grand for a decent fast/good depth of field race in a few weeks. Yeah, I have a 13 mile run in the plan so I think I will tempo it in a race. Session Mon and Wed with the HM on Saturday perhaps. If tired the option is always there to easy run it with company!

    I haven't target any particular races just yet as I just want to focus on training and not taper/rest up for races. I'm so out of race shape I just want to use races as preparatory sessions. Coming near the end of the plan i'll focus all my efforts on probably 2 5k races. Will have no excuses by then! Willing to allow myself a few mistakes in the short-term.


  • #685
    Myles Splitz
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    dublin runner wrote: »
    I haven't target any particular races just yet as I just want to focus on training and not taper/rest up for races. I'm so out of race shape I just want to use races as preparatory sessions. Coming near the end of the plan i'll focus all my efforts on probably 2 5k races. Will have no excuses by then! Willing to allow myself a few mistakes in the short-term.

    This was kinda the point I was getting at.

    I think you are definitely seeing benefits from the 5k training but you are not fully committing to it if you don't mind me saying so.

    Going into races with a "this is only a session" mentality immediately gives you an out, coupled with the HM and the previous Parkrun which was kinda in between a tempo pace and an all out effort I think you are slightly selling the specific 5k work you are doing a little short.

    You can go into races fresh without resting up or tapering to an extent and I think getting a handful of shorter races under the belt will put you in a great place to take huge chunks off your time come the target races.


  • #686
    dublin runner
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    Myles Splitz wrote: »
    This was kinda the point I was getting at.

    I think you are definitely seeing benefits from the 5k training but you are not fully committing to it if you don't mind me saying so.

    Going into races with a "this is only a session" mentality immediately gives you an out, coupled with the HM and the previous Parkrun which was kinda in between a tempo pace and an all out effort I think you are slightly selling the specific 5k work you are doing a little short.

    You can go into races fresh without resting up or tapering to an extent and I think getting a handful of shorter races under the belt will put you in a great place to take huge chunks off your time come the target races.


    Oh yeah, totally! I'm definitely not fully committing for sure. I guess that's mainly down to not having raced for 4 months. I mentioned to someone on Sunday that it's not where I am now that's important, it's how I run in October. That's the goal. Is that a cop-out? For some people it will sound like it. The 5k training is a means to an end. Now in saying that, I am enjoying more than I could have ever imagined! Yeah, the parkrun was an odd one. If the leader went out 10 seconds a mile quicker I would have went with him. Pretty confident of that.

    I know where you are coming from and pretty much 100% agree. Sometimes I am caught in no-mans-land. I really don't want to be that person running almost the exact same times, week in week out. I see it so often. I am trying (really trying!) to peak in a few weeks for the 5k. I am confident it will work out but if it doesn't (it bloody better!) I still reckon i'll be in a great place for an 8/9-week assault on marathon training.

    Hope that makes sense in some way!


  • #687
    Myles Splitz
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    dublin runner wrote: »
    Oh yeah, totally! I'm definitely not fully committing for sure. I guess that's mainly down to not having raced for 4 months. I mentioned to someone on Sunday that it's not where I am now that's important, it's how I run in October. That's the goal. Is that a cop-out? For some people it will sound like it. The 5k training is a means to an end. Now in saying that, I am enjoying more than I could have ever imagined! Yeah, the parkrun was an odd one. If the leader went out 10 seconds a mile quicker I would have went with him. Pretty confident of that.

    I know where you are coming from and pretty much 100% agree. Sometimes I am caught in no-mans-land. I really don't want to be that person running almost the exact same times, week in week out. I see it so often. I am trying (really trying!) to peak in a few weeks for the 5k. I am confident it will work out but if it doesn't (it bloody better!) I still reckon i'll be in a great place for an 8/9-week assault on marathon training.

    Hope that makes sense in some way!


    I get that the 5km stuff is a means to an end but at the same time it probably needs to be addressed 100% in order to get the benefits you are looking for in order to push on come the marathon.

    I reckon you will be in a good place at the end of it transitioning into marathon training but I do think that racing a bit more will help psychologically.

    PB's usually give us confidence so I think the quicker you go in this block the more confidence you will having going forward and I think a few more balls out races will help physically and mentally push on to faster times as racing in itself is an element which needs to be practiced.

    I get the fear of over racing and stagnation but I think under-racing can be just as bad in terms of limiting race performance in many people.


  • #688
    dublin runner
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    Myles Splitz wrote: »
    I get that the 5km stuff is a means to an end but at the same time it probably needs to be addressed 100% in order to get the benefits you are looking for in order to push on come the marathon.

    I reckon you will be in a good place at the end of it transitioning into marathon training but I do think that racing a bit more will help psychologically.

    PB's usually give us confidence so I think the quicker you go in this block the more confidence you will having going forward and I think a few more balls out races will help physically and mentally push on to faster times as racing in itself is an element which needs to be practiced.

    I get the fear of over racing and stagnation but I think under-racing can be just as bad in terms of limiting race performance in many people.


    I would have preferred a longer 5k cycle but with a desire to do an autumn marathon that meant a shorter cycle (coupled with a hamstring tear). In November I will be straight back into 5k training to a cycle of around 16 weeks (inc. some XC). I want to knock my 5k time as far down as possible over the next few weeks. There's no thinking about the marathon until the 8 weeks is up!

    I hope to get the balance right in terms of racing. It's a hard one. I know where you are coming from and it has given me some food for thought! Thanks


  • #689
    dublin runner
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    Monday 15/6

    6.10 Miles Easy @7.10p/m in 43:41


    A nice easy day to allow me the chance to race the Kilbride 5k the next day.



    Tuesday 16/6
    9.5+ Miles


    AM

    3 Mile Shakeout @7.28p/m in 22:25


    Finally settled on focusing the entire week towards 10km in Dunshaughlin. Happy to have finally settled on a race for the weekend. Relieved.


    PM


    6.5+ Miles

    Magness (4/8): Session 1


    Plan: 4x(600@5k, 600@steady)

    Splits:
    1.54, 2.17
    1.59, 2.19
    1.59, 2.18
    1.57, 2.12

    -inc. drills/strides


    Not feeling the greatest all day so simply focused on effort. I found it quite humid and the first real hot one this year. Not a great session but not the worst. The session reads ok on paper but it's a nasty enough one in practice. Maybe I should have eased back on the steady pace and push the 5k effort but still not convinced.

    It was nice to have someone on the track. A young girl dressed head to head in winter gear (casually walking clock and anti-clockwise around the 400m cinder) gave me a nice target to hunt down. Sometimes you just have to laugh!



    Wednesday 17/6
    10.60 Miles


    AM: 5 Miles Easy @7.33p/m in 37:48
    PM: 5.60 Miles Easy @7.09p/m in 40:09


    Frustrated beyond belief today.

    Work came in for Sligo on Saturday night. It's silly season at the moment, so with no regular teaching until September, it was work I couldn't turn down. That's Dunshaughlin out. €16.05 I will never see again. While not initially annoying me it really p1ssed me right off during the day. I really let it get to me. The choice was to force a race the next day (Docklands 5k) or leave it. To be honest, I was too frustrated to even really consider it properly.

    The humidity in the morning was unreal. My confidence levels are up-and-down like well, i'll stop there. From thinking last week that low 5 minute miles was noticeably getting easier week on week, I was now convincing myself that I couldn't even manage sub 7.30's comfortably. Sometimes running just makes no sense. Might be time for a team sport........:eek:



    Thursday 18/6


    AM


    5.5+ Miles

    Magness (4/8): Session 2


    Plan: 9x300m (alternating 3k,1 mile pace) ~100m jog recovery

    Splits:
    51,48
    49,48
    50,48
    50,47
    49

    -inc. drills/strides

    Luckily the cycle group on the track made way before I got going this morning. Unfortunately, I got called a "plonker" by two midget skobes during one of the reps. ''Good man'' I replied which was a pretty sensible reply during a 1 mile pace rep. Two midget skobes, with a dog drinking cans in the morning. Classy. I may be indeed a plonker but when did they start getting so tame with their abuse?! They wouldn't be so nice to you on the northside. Still the first heckle I have gotten in years. Pity it was so lame!

    I have no idea whether the session was a success or not. In truth, I don't really care at the moment. I am kind of going through the motions. The motions are still enjoyable but I have given up over-thinking the situation!

    In total 2.7km at a decent clip. I'll take that.


  • #690
    Ososlo
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    dublin runner wrote: »
    Monday 15/6


    Luckily the cycle group on the track made way before I got going this morning. Unfortunately, I got called a "plonker" by two midget skobes during one of the reps. ''Good man'' I replied which was a pretty sensible reply during a 1 mile pace rep. Two midget skobes, with a dog drinking cans in the morning. Classy. I may be indeed a plonker but when did they start getting so tame with their abuse?! They wouldn't be so nice to you on the northside. Still the first heckle I have gotten in years. Pity it was so lame!

    You'd never hear of such a thing on the Northside:pac:


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    dublin runner
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    Ososlo wrote:
    You'd never hear of such a thing on the Northside


    Haha. Imagine drinking at a cinder track. You'd never catch me at that (!). The kids these days. No respect!!!


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