Why don't more sports have men and women competing equally

quickbeam · 06-06-2015 05:19PM #1

The only ones I can think of are horse racing and showjumping.

Obviously, sports which require strength will never be possible to have the genders competing together as it's not sexist to say that the average male will always be stronger than the average female. So I can understand why they don't compete together in boxing, soccer, rugby, tennis, athletics, etc.

But surely they could compete together is less physically demanding sports: snooker, golf, darts, curling, etc. Maybe even things like motor sports, or cricket.

So, is it time to merge some sports so we can all compete together?

Ruu · 06-06-2015 05:22PM

Reanne Evans lost out to Ken Doherty for a place in the World Snooker Championships earlier this year. It'll happen sooner or later.

brevity · 06-06-2015 05:23PM

Anyone else thinking of that american football type game that they played at the start of Starship Troopers?

NachoBusiness · 06-06-2015 05:24PM

Cause they're not as good :P

eviltwin · 06-06-2015 05:28PM

Women aren't as into sport as men, look at most grassroots sports and its mostly boys, girls don't seem to be as interested so it stands to reason the boys will be better and more consistent as they age.

Arsemageddon · 06-06-2015 05:31PM

brevity wrote: »

Anyone else thinking of that american football type game that they played at the start of Starship Troopers?

That could only happen in a film, in real life if there were mixed teams the ladies would all start singing like this midway through the match....

ch750536 · 06-06-2015 05:32PM

We need to stop persuading girls they are weak & feeble from a young age, then they may engage more.

enfant terrible · 06-06-2015 05:32PM

Venus and Serena Williams, aged 17 and 16 respectively, had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked below 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park.[30] Braasch first took on Serena and beat her 6–1. He then played Venus and won 6–2.[31] Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance." He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19980127&id=kqJjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mggGAAAAIBAJ&pg=3506,5011601&hl=en

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-06-2015 05:33PM

quickbeam wrote: »

The only ones I can think of are horse racing and showjumping.

Obviously, sports which require strength will never be possible to have the genders competing together as it's not sexist to say that the average male will always be stronger than the average female. So I can understand why they don't compete together in boxing, soccer, rugby, tennis, athletics, etc.

But surely they could compete together is less physically demanding sports: snooker, golf, darts, curling, etc. Maybe even things like motor sports, or cricket.

So, is it time to merge some sports so we can all compete together?

Men are physical faster and stronger than women. Look at world records and average winning times in any olympic athletic or weightlifting event. This is not sexist, it's a statement of fact.

The ideas you list, require horses - not just athletic prowess

I agree that the sports should be the same (5 sets instead of 3 in grand slam tennis, for example) and prize money should be the same.

BoJack Horseman · 06-06-2015 05:34PM

Pseudo-sports already have cross-gender competitions.

Its not feasible for actual sports though.

Drexel · 06-06-2015 05:35PM

Tennis?

Beach volleyball??

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-06-2015 05:35PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Venus and Serena Williams, aged 17 and 16 respectively, had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked below 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park.[30] Braasch first took on Serena and beat her 6–1. He then played Venus and won 6–2.[31] Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance." He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19980127&id=kqJjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mggGAAAAIBAJ&pg=3506,5011601&hl=en

In fairnes, he was 29 when these matches took place, the sisters were 18 and 20.Three years later, I think you;d have gottne a different result.

RedemptionZ · 06-06-2015 05:36PM

I don't know enough about the sport but surely strength plays a part in golf? Though I suppose accuracy is probably more important. I still feel men would have an unfair advantage in the game.

Snooker definitely is one that women are capable of achieving elite status in, just obviously traditionally the interest hasn't been there.

Kilboor · 06-06-2015 05:36PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Venus and Serena Williams, aged 17 and 16 respectively, had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked below 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park.[30] Braasch first took on Serena and beat her 6–1. He then played Venus and won 6–2.[31] Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance." He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun.

Was coming here to post this

raze_them_all_ · 06-06-2015 05:36PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Men are physical faster and stronger than women. Look at world records and average winning times in any olympic athletic or weightlifting event. This is not sexist, it's a statement of fact.

The ideas you list, require horses - not just athletic prowess

I agree that the sports should be the same (5 sets instead of 3 in grand slam tennis, for example) and prize money should be the same.

IIRC the only time the number 1 in the world beat the number 1 guy in the world was long distance swimming in the 70's??

Men are more competitive and physically better built for it. While there will be the very rare freak female athlete they will be so far and between it'll not really count

stefanovich · 06-06-2015 05:36PM

You are all sexist and immoral.

Victor · 06-06-2015 05:36PM

You mean like sex? The problem is a lot of the men will come first anyway.

eviltwin wrote: »

Women aren't as into sport as men, look at most grassroots sports and its mostly boys, girls don't seem to be as interested so it stands to reason the boys will be better and more consistent as they age.

Part of that is down to the talking down of females in sport and the relative lack of role models.

Son Of A Vidic · 06-06-2015 05:36PM

quickbeam wrote: »

So, is it time to merge some sports so we can all compete together?

No. For fappage reasons it will never be practical.

osarusan · 06-06-2015 05:37PM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

I don't know enough about the sport but surely strength plays a part in golf? Though I suppose accuracy is probably more important. I still feel men would have an unfair advantage in the game.

Snooker definitely is one that women are capable of achieving elite status in, just obviously traditionally the interest hasn't been there.

In golf men will drive the ball many many yards further.

RedemptionZ · 06-06-2015 05:38PM

jonny666 wrote: »

Tennis?

Beach volleyball??

Nope and nope. Especially beach volleyball. That's an extremely athletically demanding sport where size is very important. I'd say something like 6'4 is the average height for male teams in the Olympics.

salmocab · 06-06-2015 05:39PM

cricket? cricket is a sport that relies on a lot of power. I have wondered in the past how there aren't more women in top motorsports and other games that are almost exclusively about skill darts and snooker being the obvious ones. Then things like shooting would surely be able to have mixed comps, maybe they do?
Maybe in the likes of darts and snooker boys are more likely to have played it a lot when they are younger so more likely to have reached higher standards.

Carlos Orange · 06-06-2015 05:39PM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

I don't know enough about the sport but surely strength plays a part in golf? Though I suppose accuracy is probably more important. I still feel men would have an unfair advantage in the game.

What is unfair about being better?

RedemptionZ · 06-06-2015 05:39PM

osarusan wrote: »

In golf men will drive the ball many many yards further.

That's what I'm saying

enfant terrible · 06-06-2015 05:39PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

In fairnes, he was 29 when these matches took place, the sisters were 18 and 20.Three years later, I think you;d have gottne a different result.

The best women players would lose to the best male college players, never mind professional male tennis players.

RedemptionZ · 06-06-2015 05:42PM

psinno wrote: »

What is unfair about being better?

I think you're misunderstanding the way I used term unfair. If women weren't given their own golf tournaments surely there would be very few if any taking place in a major tournament. Why? Because men are physically stronger and more suited to the sport and therefore have an unfair advantage, should women be forced to compete with them.

osarusan · 06-06-2015 05:42PM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

That's what I'm saying

Yeah, I'm agreeing.

Even the accuracy of later shots (or luxury of affording more of the shot to accuracy and less to distance) will depend on how close you are from the green in the first place.

salmocab · 06-06-2015 05:42PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Men are physical faster and stronger than women. Look at world records and average winning times in any olympic athletic or weightlifting event. This is not sexist, it's a statement of fact.

The ideas you list, require horses - not just athletic prowess

I agree that the sports should be the same (5 sets instead of 3 in grand slam tennis, for example) and prize money should be the same.

The OP actually said its not sexist to say that men are stronger and faster in general

eviltwin · 06-06-2015 05:43PM

Sport has always been about men showing off, it's about being strong, fast and other things men excel at. That's the disadvantage for women. Women already are involved in motor sports, some of the test drivers are female. It's just a matter of time until one competes professionally.

06-06-2015 05:44PM

quickbeam wrote: »

The only ones I can think of are horse racing and showjumping.

Obviously, sports which require strength will never be possible to have the genders competing together as it's not sexist to say that the average male will always be stronger than the average female. So I can understand why they don't compete together in boxing, soccer, rugby, tennis, athletics, etc.

But surely they could compete together is less physically demanding sports: snooker, golf, darts, curling, etc. Maybe even things like motor sports, or cricket.

So, is it time to merge some sports so we can all compete together?

Cricket is actually pretty physically demanding, you might not have body to body contact but the ball can break bones or with some bad luck, kill

raze_them_all_ · 06-06-2015 05:44PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Sport has always been about men showing off, it's about being strong, fast and other things men excel at. That's the disadvantage for women. Women already are involved in motor sports, some of the test drivers are female. It's just a matter of time until one competes professionally.

one did in rally, won like 4 points but never made it big.

salmocab · 06-06-2015 05:45PM

think there is a test driver in F1 thats female

Why don't more sports have men and women competing equally

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